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GAF Indie Game Development Thread 2: High Res Work for Low Res Pay
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Finally, some proggress with the banner. I cleaned the lines a little, and sketched some of the characters that were left out initially (I still have to include more, so please be patient).
Can't wait to see it finished!
So I decided to try and make a game in Game Maker... Sadly my skills at pixel art is really REALLY low.
But I managed to make this:
My plan at the moment is for it not to be a side scroller but moving up/down/left/right. I would make the arms and feet connected but honestly I don't trust my skills to make a good sprite like that.
Edit 2: Here's my full sheet, added shadows and hands move down as body does. Unlike the gif.
Edit 3: Moving Down:
I went from this:
to this:
So anything is possible!
Candescence
Member
Finally, some proggress with the banner. I cleaned the lines a little, and sketched some of the characters that were left out initially (I still have to include more, so please be patient).
Looking good, so far!
In other news, I'm currently fiddling around with trying to prototype a 2D platformer thing in Unity as a side project, see how far I go with it. I do want to work with something a bit simpler that would be easier for me to develop, prototype and design. Indie 2D platformers are dime a dozen these days, but the concept I've got will hopefully make it stand out.
My last one for now...
I thought since I'm not exactly sure how I would be able to draw anything with a weapon or punching, maybe magic?
Anyone able to give me some tips on my sprite work?
I've read some very recent posts here about drawing and thought they were excellent and although this post from Pehesse is related to cell shading it helped me think about colours differently
There' quite a few video's on youtube if you search for pixel art tutorials
i found this one interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lxCdeL1--4
Also have a look through this thread on TigSource some of the early links seem to be dead but again some stuff helped me out.
EDIT!!!
Good luck by the way im on a similar journey to you but decided to go down the unity route.
EDIT!! *2
This looks like an interesting resource....
http://wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=3467.0
went from this:
So anything is possible!
Really really like that one
SeanNoonan
Member
Looks like I've got your back, yo ;D
More_Badass
Member
What game is this? Really like the animations
So anything is possible!
spent the better part of this morning trying to get one way platforms to work, everything I found online was completely ineffective for player and enemy collision, so I scrambled up my own hacky collision code for both player and enemy separately. I'm shocked it works, but I'm pretty excited about it!
I've decided that this game will be a simple, tough as nails Castlevania style platformer without all the fancy metroidvania trappings. Now I'm gonna start adding offensive enemies and possibly moving platforms. I think I'll add my version of the medusa head first because I'm an asshole.
It's a game that I was making(Venator's Quest), but got too busy with the ctual one that I decided to finish it later.
Bonus:
From what I understand Unity is built for 3D and has 2D features. I found that most of the programming for 2D made use of 3D variables and such. I thought it was too complicated for what I needed it for, and decided that I'd stick with gamemaker until I can start doing this full time. GameMaker is actually super powerful if you know how to work around some of its shortcomings. I don't know if you have a learning plan or what your knowledge is, but I'd recommend subscribing to HeartBeast, Tom Francis, and Shaun Spalding on youtube. I started with Tom Francis' make a game with no experience series and eventually found HeartBeast and Shaun's videos helped with some more advanced concepts.
AlphaProspector
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Well, as I'm doing a VN where the visual part is provided by artists, I feel your pain. (Luckily, most of the sound and music I'm doing it on my own, with very select pieces commissioned to get a more diverse OST.)
Art doesn't work nearly as fast as writing or when you have the programming side ironed out and coming at a steady pace. Plus, as you said, artists have lives, family, a lot are extremely talented but also young so it means they also have families, studies, etc. Even the pros can take their sweet time (due to busy schedules, other clients, etc.) It helps a bit that I also have a job so I can tolerate some extra waiting without going crazy but it still eventually gets to me.
Indeed, one can start progressing in other areas to build the entire backbone and inner workings of the game but there is that point where you need to replace placeholders with the finished art. Good luck with that and hope the wait doesn't get too painful!
I downloaded Game Maker: Player but when I click on "Make" it just brings me to a link to download Game Maker Player.
electroflame
Member
You need GameMaker: Studio to make games. Download it here
You'll also have to register your email with the program to unlock the full program, which is kind of shitty, but it's whatever.
Dead Prince
Banned
why not do both. 2D on the side ;P
Candescence
Member
So, I spent a bit of time on that 2D platformer prototype...
Well, at least I'm one step closer towards making a Mega Man X clone (obviously not my intention, this is just one of many planned abilities). The sprite is actually Model X made all-black and given a slight white outline for use as a 'blank' prototype character, I'm gonna be using other existing sprites as well rendered in the same style for various actions, it helps me pretend it's all just one character. Also, I'm trying to curb my embarrassing perfectionist tendencies when it comes to animations for the sake of the prototype, so if/when I start showing gifs, the animations will probably look jittery due to hotspots not being synced, I really don't want to mess around with those things, good grief.
I'm using Prime31's CharacterController2D behaviour, and it made implementing X-style wall jumping shockingly easy. Oh, and Tiled2Unity, which is a godsend.
Oooh, very nice. Geez, you are brilliant at the art side of things.
Well, at least I'm one step closer towards making a Mega Man X clone (obviously not my intention, this is just one of many planned abilities). The sprite is actually Model X made all-black and given a slight white outline for use as a 'blank' prototype character, I'm gonna be using other existing sprites as well rendered in the same style for various actions, it helps me pretend it's all just one character. Also, I'm trying to curb my embarrassing perfectionist tendencies when it comes to animations for the sake of the prototype, so if/when I start showing gifs, the animations will probably look jittery due to hotspots not being synced, I really don't want to mess around with those things, good grief.
I'm using Prime31's CharacterController2D behaviour, and it made implementing X-style wall jumping shockingly easy. Oh, and Tiled2Unity, which is a godsend.
Oooh, very nice. Geez, you are brilliant at the art side of things.
JeffG
Member
Time.
lol I lost 6 mths due to the upgrade of 4.6 to 5 with Unity. Tried my first build, there were so many errors I just shut it down. Waited mths for the assets that I depended on were updated.
I have too many "features" sitting at 60% done with placeholders to putz around with other stuff.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
mStudios, your art fro the game is excellent!
I think ive read in some of your posts that you put sceenshots some post ago, but I dont think ive ever seen screen from your game.
Would be very interested knowing what is about or seeing some screens even if its only tests. Maybe we can help you with the name.
I think ive read in some of your posts that you put sceenshots some post ago, but I dont think ive ever seen screen from your game.
Would be very interested knowing what is about or seeing some screens even if its only tests. Maybe we can help you with the name.
Dead Prince
Banned
Original vs New
vs
I thought if the character is to be a mage, maybe a cloak?
does he not want to be a mage. he looks sad. but doesn't look too magey. kinda looks like a street thug wearing a poncho.
First time posting in this thread, but we've been working on A Tofu Tail for about 3 years or so. We are super proud to launch our atofutail.com today in tandem with our official gameplay trailer! Any and all feedback is welcome 
https://youtu.be/KfmkCmR_fkk
https://youtu.be/KfmkCmR_fkk
timetokill
Banned
Original vs New
vs
I thought if the character is to be a mage, maybe a cloak?
If so, the cloak needs a lighter color so that you can see some details.
AlejandroDaJ
Neo Member
CTDV comes out on Steam in 8 days, wooo
Do you guys have any opinion on launch discounts? The game's only retailing for $3 (and comes with a complimentary Android copy included), but I don't know if I should go for the extra push.
Do you guys have any opinion on launch discounts? The game's only retailing for $3 (and comes with a complimentary Android copy included), but I don't know if I should go for the extra push.
Original vs New
vs
I thought if the character is to be a mage, maybe a cloak?
I prefer the original guy.
timetokill
Banned
CTDV comes out on Steam in 8 days, wooo
Do you guys have any opinion on launch discounts? The game's only retailing for $3 (and comes with a complimentary Android copy included), but I don't know if I should go for the extra push.
At that price I don't think a sale is going to do anything. Price it at $2.99 instead of $3 though.
Original vs New
vs
I thought if the character is to be a mage, maybe a cloak?
I like the original, looks more interesting.
How about this. :O
Though I did make this before the thing about the lighter color.
Jacksinthe
Banned
Oh sheeeeeet. Coming along so well. Bring on the color!
Here's a new area in Hollow Knight, the rich quarter of the City of Tears. it's currently kinda empty, but we're planning to fill the zone with lots of fancy bug types (all infected of course).
Hey.
Hey.
Like.
I want this.
Just saiyin'
I'm sure they each have their own benefits but I just think unity is it a better fit for me.
I did actually start off in gamemaker and was watching Tom Francis on youtube which i thought was great. I dont see any reason not to go down the gamemaker route it just wasn't for me.
I just fancied going down the c# route and thought there was a bit more info going around regarding unity.
I would say its a little bit harder to start off with but i am getting there.
How about this. :O
Though I did make this before the thing about the lighter color.
That does look better. Though I kinda like how it animates/looks when he has no arms/legs. But that one now looks nice to me as well.
Oh sheeeeeet. Coming along so well. Bring on the color!
Here's a new area in Hollow Knight, the rich quarter of the City of Tears. it's currently kinda empty, but we're planning to fill the zone with lots of fancy bug types (all infected of course).
That looks really nice!
How about this. :O
Though I did make this before the thing about the lighter color.
Better, but I agree that it'd be cool if he still had invisible limbs. There's something really cool about the way you did that.
Yeah, I posted one or two a while ago. Here's a couple more, and I'd like to get some thoughts on the effect I'm going for.
(Obviously, as you can tell, I haven't quite finished the later parts of the level.)
As you progress through the level, the sun sets and the light changes from a regular white light to a more orangeish light, and the sky turns purple. Does it look decent? Does the lighting in the second picture look dusky, or just muddy? And is the sky too purple? I'd also like to make the horizon gradually grow orange, but I'm not quite sure how I'd go about that.
Edit:
Figured out how to do the orange glow on the horizon, and it looks pretty damn good if I do say so myself.
I think I found a compromise!
I changed the body to look like the color scheme of the cloak and added the hood.
I made a quick video showing off the sunset in my game that I mentioned in my last post: https://youtu.be/Hx7PZLAWQtw
I know it's not exactly a new concept. Rare did it in DKC2 in 1995. But I'm still pretty proud of how well it's turned out.
I know it's not exactly a new concept. Rare did it in DKC2 in 1995. But I'm still pretty proud of how well it's turned out.
timetokill
Banned
I think I found a compromise!
I changed the body to look like the color scheme of the cloak and added the hood.
Best one yet! Keep at it.
I think I found a compromise!
I changed the body to look like the color scheme of the cloak and added the hood.
Looks great!
Oh sheeeeeet. Coming along so well. Bring on the color!
Here's a new area in Hollow Knight, the rich quarter of the City of Tears. it's currently kinda empty, but we're planning to fill the zone with lots of fancy bug types (all infected of course).
Holy SHIT. That looks FANTASTIC. Good lord.
Trying to implement player acceleration/deceleration in RPG Maker.
Attempt one has ended catastrophically, using the following bit of code:
Code:
def real_move_speed
unless @move_force.to_s.to_i >= @move_speed.to_s.to_i then
@move_force=(move_force.to_s.to_i+(move_force.to_s.to_i*0.05))+(dash? ? 1 : 0)
else
@move_speed + (dash? ? 1 : 0)
@move_force = 1
endThis resulted in the player literally inching around like the oldest of men, until they hit the sprint button. And then they went full Barry Allen.
I've since ripped this out, and will surely one day look back on this with fond memories. But, figured you guys might get a kick out of it anyway.
Literally did the EXACT same thing. My first attempt at jumping and dropping with gravity was worse.
Dead Prince
Banned
I think I found a compromise!
I changed the body to look like the color scheme of the cloak and added the hood.
now you can use that as a template to make the costume for him! looks good!
Oh sheeeeeet. Coming along so well. Bring on the color!
Here's a new area in Hollow Knight, the rich quarter of the City of Tears. it's currently kinda empty, but we're planning to fill the zone with lots of fancy bug types (all infected of course).
Lovely, as usual
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