So the scene amounted to a zero sum, but they got to show boobs.
That whole scene was so silly, lol.
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So the scene amounted to a zero sum, but they got to show boobs.
That whole scene was so silly, lol.
Portugeezer
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Pretty good episode. Kept the pacing pretty well and finally provided some plot developments. Not much, but a decent amount.
Speaking of developments...
What's her name? She's a good actress and whatnot, that is why I want to know....
https://www.google.com/webhp?source...&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=girl that plays sand snake
Odd how how she's the only one that comes up.
I wonder why.
She evidently didn't want him dead.
Cercei's mistake with the Faith Militant strikes me as completely plausible. In her arrogance, she believed she could use the Faith as an attack dog to destroy her enemies for her.
She thought she had a master stroke; force the Tyrells in to submission and absolve the crown's debts to the faith in the same move. She thought she could control it, but she had far too much faith in her ability to control those motivated by religious zeal. It's absolutely the sort of mistake I could imagine an arrogant politician making.
She thought she had a master stroke; force the Tyrells in to submission and absolve the crown's debts to the faith in the same move. She thought she could control it, but she had far too much faith in her ability to control those motivated by religious zeal. It's absolutely the sort of mistake I could imagine an arrogant politician making.
I think it highly unlikely that scene is the last we hear of any of this.
More and more I like my "temporary cure" idea and that she now owns Bronn and will pit him against Jaime.
Did Lancel deliberately do something to Robert's wine when he was wounded hunting in season 1 or was it an accident. They kind of hint he was involved. She might be on the hook for more than the incest thing.
he just overserved him (deliberately)
RustyNails
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Does Lancel know about Cersei's children? Or did he fess up to only screwing with her?
ComputerBlue
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I'm sure he knows, probably not directly from the source but at this point I'm pretty sure everyone knows.
RustyNails
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But is Cersei is imprisoned because of Lancel admitting to their fling or is it because he also brought up the relationship between her and Jaime?
If you rewatch the scene where Cercei first goes to see the High Sparrow, you can see she believes she's made a very clever arrangement; she is restoring political and military power to the Church in exchange for 1) a significant forgiveness of debt for the crown and 2) destruction of her political adversaries, the Tyrells. She doesn't quite say that outright, but it's a pretty clear subtext. She believes she has an understanding with the High Sparrow.
Further, you can tell that she believed that the High Sparrow was ultimately operating under the same rules that she was; a person maneuvering for power and position in the world. She believes he is putting on a face for the public to appear benevolent and kind, because in the world Cercei operates, that is expected.
But as Olenna Tyrell found out in this last episode, this is wrong. The High Sparrow is a True Believer, and Cercei's belief that they had some sort of mutual understanding was mistaken. Cercei would not be the first leader, in the real world or a fictitious one, who in their arrogance handed power over to zealots they wrongly believed they could control.
Further, you can tell that she believed that the High Sparrow was ultimately operating under the same rules that she was; a person maneuvering for power and position in the world. She believes he is putting on a face for the public to appear benevolent and kind, because in the world Cercei operates, that is expected.
But as Olenna Tyrell found out in this last episode, this is wrong. The High Sparrow is a True Believer, and Cercei's belief that they had some sort of mutual understanding was mistaken. Cercei would not be the first leader, in the real world or a fictitious one, who in their arrogance handed power over to zealots they wrongly believed they could control.
The One and Done
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Exactly. Tywin warned her a long time ago that she's not as smart as she thinks she is. Her hubris will be her downfall. She doesn't respect the cunning of her enemies and/or perceived ally's like Littlefinger, Varys, and even Tyrion. She thinks she's winning the game but really she's her own worst enemy. Put it this way, had LF been granted her power the game would've been over long ago.
Pretty sure it is the fling, since that is what he confessed in the first episode
but yeah, everyone knows about the incest, there is just little proof. All the followers were yelling at Tommen for being an abomination outside the sept
Exactly... just like everyone knew about Loras, they still relied on Littlefinger's witness rather than the rumors
soundscream
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I dont think they act on accusations, only direct evidence or testimony from a involved party. Unless Jamie or Cersei admits it I think they are safe on that charge.
RustyNails
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If that's the case, I'm curious to know what Cersei's punishment would entail. Since Brother Lancel walks free, I'm assuming Cersei's punishment wouldn't involve death or imprisonment.
Naughty_Doge
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Another episode and Varys is a no show. I hope he gets to Dany soon. Along with Littlefinger and Olenna, Varys is the only one who knows how to play the game.
ComputerBlue
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They never said exactly why, but I guess we can assume both. Sparrow even mentioned Lance coming by and confessing his sins and unburdening himself and that he had a lot to say about Cersei but it was never said exactly what that was, all we know for sure is that they used to bang. Everything else is just assumption really but we can definitely assume that he knew.
OldAsUrSock
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We think the same but the zealots are very vulnerable because of how many prominent people they have locked up or displeased.
Natalie Dormer and a young Diana Rigg:
wow, that is crazy. Obara and Daario aside, the casting people know what they are doing
ComputerBlue
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Do they even kill anyone? I don't think so. They imprisoned a lot of them but I don't think anyone has been sentenced to death or murdered have they?
Dubbedinenglish
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They stabbed some guys at the brothel if I remember correctly.
lastplayed
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Natalie Dormer and a young Diana Rigg:
Even all ragged in a dungeon cell, Margaery still looks hot.
soundscream
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nah, it is definitely Maester Pycell's time to shine!
The masses already think that Tommen is an abomination. The zealots have the masses on their side. It's ready for a full revolution. My one beef is that they loved Margery. I wonder if that will ever come into play or of we will have to assume it never happened.
That's my assumption as well. It's why I think it is premature to complain that the poison stuff was pointless
Brofist
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No. Does not compute. Why poison someone if you don't intend to kill them? No boobies will change my mind.
Brofist
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They needed to keep the original Daario.
They were there to kill Myrcella, not Bronn
Brofist
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Sorry for the too subtle sarcasm. I just can't believe how narrow minded some people can be when trying to analyze these scenes.
Sorry, I've been drinking.
Did she not give him an antidote?
toastyToast
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They need to get an Emerald City situation going and get slave trader Adebisi in there somehow
Game of Oz
Brienne, a slave to her vow to Cat
Jon Snow, a slave to his vows as a man of the night's watch
chicko1983
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if you watch the episode recap before the first or second episode this series (where they reintroduce Lancel) it showed Lancel and Robert drinking while hunting and then dying.
Im guessing that was shown to remind people that Robert may have been poisoned by Lancel, on behalf of Cersei, when they were hunting.
Yes, they were magical boobies indeed!
IAmRandom31
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Dany will go from freeing the slaves to breaking people out of prison
eyeball_kid
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Was there an official reason Daario's original actor was replaced? The new one continues to be unconvincing and has absolutely zero charisma. The old actor had so much more bravado and seemed charismatic enough to win Daenerys's affections. The new one seems both incapable of that and also fails to exude any passion for her.
Daario's original actor is now the new Transporter.
Apparently he quit to star in some transporter reboot lol
hey, Tormund was released, so that's one going the other way.
Tormund was back in chains this week
Last we heard of Edmure Tully, he was imprisoned by Walder Frey but who knows if that has changed
I genuinely thought they were about to introduce telepathic powers for a moment.
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