Chris_Rivera
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Is this how it all ends? PS5 sales grind to a halt? SIE goes bankrupt by the end of the year and sold for scrap to MS?
Of course Sony is making money off the deal silly. For the same reason EA, Activition etc. make money when their games sell in Japan even though Capcom, Square Enix or some other local company publishes them.Why would MLB give them any money? Sony is not the publisher and doesn't own the IP, they literally have zero pull to demand any money for this deal. All their entitled to is the development costs to make the Xbox version of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even find out about it until after it was a done deal.
Oh i know, thats why i phrased it like 'free'. I pay £7.99 a month for PC Gamepass for example. People tend to say its 'free' because a game is added to somehting they are paying for anyway, but yes techniically its not free.Well, I would not say it's free. It is part of that $9-15 dollar subscription fee we are paying (I know, I know, many got theirs for a $1 or via some other promo.) But games available to us via PS+, Games with Gold and Game Pass are not free. There is a cost to it, just the value proposition is different. But yeah, it is not necessarily good for Sony from that perspective.
Personally I think Sony has been in that position for quite some time already. Same thing with Nintendo. Seems to do alright anyway.If Microsoft somehow manages to get more third party games to come to Gamepass day 1 then Sony could find themselves in an awkward position where the only reason to have a PS5 is to play first party games.
To me, the value equation and "free" depends on the gamers intent.Oh i know, thats why i phrased it like 'free'. I pay £7.99 a month for PC Gamepass for example. People tend to say its 'free' because a game is added to somehting they are paying for anyway, but yes techniically its not free.
True.Of course Sony is making money off the deal silly. For the same reason EA, Activition etc. make money when their games sell in Japan even though Capcom, Square Enix or some other local company publishes them.
Most likely Sony couldnt refuse and MLB threatened to take away their license.
The same as other companies were allowed to continue doing worse or as bad things for us gamers!how sony allowed this to happen is beyond me
You seem to not understand this is not a Sony property.Sony got paid for it to be on gamepass I'm sure... It gives gamepass subscribers like myself who never played it to see how great it is and possibly by it once it's eventually not on gamepass any longer. In the long term will likely be good for sony expanding the fan base for that game along with xbox possibly increasing the popularity and benifits of gamepass. So.... Win win for everyone?
Get over it, Bethesda games are not coming to PlaystationShocking that a game can come to Xbox gamepass for free, yet costs $70 on ps5
Wouldn't it be funny if this strategy applied for all future Bethesda games?
For most people, they don't even know The Show is coming to GP. And even if they are pissed, too bad. There's only about 1 million copies sold per year on PS systems, so even the user base is tiny. A Just Dance game probably sells more.I'm not sure if it's a good look or bad look, I'm just happy Microsoft is bringing the competition this time around. I hope to benefit from both parties involved.
Probably took a page from Sony San Diego. They never mentioned The Show 21 is multiplat.I like how jimbo sony is keeping hush-hush and hoping this dies down.
this how they treat their 'loyal' fans going forward.. /nothing to see here
So what is Sony supposed to come out and piss the MLB off?I like how jimbo sony is keeping hush-hush and hoping this dies down.
this how they treat their 'loyal' fans going forward.. /nothing to see here
Dont bother trying to bring logic into this with certain users, its a waste of time.So what is Sony supposed to come out and piss the MLB off?
Is the Xbox version made by Sony San Diego or is it by a port studio like Nixxes?Probably took a page from Sony San Diego. They never mentioned The Show 21 is multiplat.
Probably the first time in twitter gaming history, a studio didn't market or mention their game is on various platforms they made it for.
So what is Sony supposed to come out and piss the MLB off?
Where do you get the silly idea that it's $10 cheaper to buy? Its $70 on XSX too.It is a big deal.
A product that is going to a competing service for the first time is not only $10 cheaper to buy it, but for millions of GP people already on the service, this game is added at no extra charge.
And it's even cross play. So the GP people will even play with the Sony gamers who paid full price. lol
In a way, you can say this is kind of similar to cell phone and cable providers competing for service. If you're an existing customer you get regular price or a shitty ongoing discount of 15% off a bundled service pack.
But that guy down the street who is using a competing provider just got offered by your cable provider a sweet 50% off deal and zero fee router and cable box to hook him in, while you (being a loyal customer for 10 years) is paying more than him.
Sony gamers are the existing customer. Just got to accept the fact competing customers will get a better deal to hook them in.
Unless it's hidden, it's Sony San Diego. WikiIs the Xbox version made by Sony San Diego or is it by a port studio like Nixxes?
If it’s made in-house, imagine working late hours and optimizing a game for a competitive platform. It’s definitely a weird situation. The DF face-off should end with PS5 at the top at least or somebody will get fired lol
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My mistake. I thought I read somewhere someone said that.Where do you get the silly idea that it's $10 cheaper to buy? Its $70 on XSX too.
It looks like that's exactly what MS did, yes.Hmmm. I didn't know this. Does this mean Xbox politely bitch slapped Sony?
By that, I mean...Xbox basically one-upped Sony on their own first party game by going over their head?
Great marketing/move from MS on this one. Sony will be forced to follow I think.
Should MS continue to pull this move, then longer term Sony will have to answer Gamepass.
Longer still, MS may rue the day they forced Sony's hand. A Sony Gamepass with their own 1st party would be a tough opponent for MS.
Disclaimer: I dont really like the idea of gamepass as I'm unsure of the longer term consequences of it. Remember, when something's too good to be true.......
Like Sony waited and looked how MS introduced Xbox Live? Gamers win?Yeah, terrible look for Sony
At the same time, I cant begin to imagine how much money MS is spending with Game Pass. I dont trust that its being lucrative. If so, show the damn receipts.
Sony strategy is probably "let's see for how long MS can maintain this shit".
They dont want a service like Game Pass, no way. Not when they can get a lot of money by selling their own exclusives.
So Sony is playing the waiting game. Dont hold your breath for something similar to Game Pass.
Is the Xbox version made by Sony San Diego or is it by a port studio like Nixxes?
If it’s made in-house, imagine working late hours and optimizing a game for a competitive platform. It’s definitely a weird situation. The DF face-off should end with PS5 at the top at least or somebody will get fired lol
Yes because people love to pay $70 to $100 depending on market for a fucking game. That is why Microsoft is being extremely successful with Gamepass.Yeah, terrible look for Sony
At the same time, I cant begin to imagine how much money MS is spending with Game Pass. I dont trust that its being lucrative. If so, show the damn receipts.
Sony strategy is probably "let's see for how long MS can maintain this shit".
They dont want a service like Game Pass, no way. Not when they can get a lot of money by selling their own exclusives.
So Sony is playing the waiting game. Dont hold your breath for something similar to Game Pass.
Yet data shows that PlayStation gamers don’t really play exclusives as they claim. They probably sell around 2 to 10 million units but no where near the sales of the yearly releases. Think about that.Luckily a Sony gamepass (ps now with first party titles) will NEVER be successful because I'm keep getting told by Sony fans that they don't like to 'rent games' and it's unsustainable.
This confirms one thing for me, it's full of microtransaction "packs" and game currency 'Stubs' you can buy for real money. Makes total sense now why it's on gamepass.oh, you think this is bad? Look what we in Europe have to pay:
That’s $117,58
The games that you pay a subscription for make money on microtransactions. They make money on data collection. Small budget indie games may even make money per play. It's the mobile model but with a monthly fee. Apple made a move on subs after gamepass too with Apple Arcade.Yeah, terrible look for Sony
At the same time, I cant begin to imagine how much money MS is spending with Game Pass. I dont trust that its being lucrative. If so, show the damn receipts.
Sony strategy is probably "let's see for how long MS can maintain this shit".
They dont want a service like Game Pass, no way. Not when they can get a lot of money by selling their own exclusives.
So Sony is playing the waiting game. Dont hold your breath for something similar to Game Pass.
No let’s keep it going. I expect the game to make huge numbers at this pointI was just thinking we need another MLB thread. You guys do not disappoint.
Hmm don’t think so the new Spider-Man game sold much less then the first game.Gamers gladly pay 70 for Sony quality
When you say huge numbers you mean what exactly?No let’s keep it going. I expect the game to make huge numbers at this point
Some actually do, in other threads fans are mocking people for paying to rent games with Gamepass and say that they would rather buy the games. Well, there you go!Yes because people love to pay $70 to $100 depending on market for a fucking game. That is why Microsoft is being extremely successful with Gamepass.
How in the flying fuck is this a win for ps5 owners who have to buy it for 70 dollars , explain it to meSony got paid for it to be on gamepass I'm sure... It gives gamepass subscribers like myself who never played it to see how great it is and possibly by it once it's eventually not on gamepass any longer. In the long term will likely be good for sony expanding the fan base for that game along with xbox possibly increasing the popularity and benifits of gamepass. So.... Win win for everyone?
Just players probably because the Gamepass evangelists hate to admit sales actually decrease even when a bunch of people on gaf say they will cancel their preorders.When you say huge numbers you mean what exactly?
I was just thinking we need another MLB thread. You guys do not disappoint.
Nobody plays anything. Attach rates are dismal. Even the impressive sellers - your Call of Duties - don't hit anywhere close to half of all console owners.Yet data shows that PlayStation gamers don’t really play exclusives as they claim. They probably sell around 2 to 10 million units but no where near the sales of the yearly releases. Think about that.
Ohh people love to be scammed only to bitch when developers add mtx or loot boxes.Some actually do, in other threads fans are mocking people for paying to rent games with Gamepass and say that they would rather buy the games. Well, there you go!
Gamepass isn't free, it's an effect that by diluting the cost during multiple subs makes it seem (and ultimately it is) much cheaper. If the only weapon who people have to defend the 140€ which you need to play outriders and mbl on ps5 (in a period where the people has economic problems due to the covid) against 9.99 of the xsx is the devaluation of the perceived value of the games. Honestly, I guess nobody genuinely gives a fuck about devaluing the perceived value of video games hahahaThe only thing remaining quite hilarious on the 100th similar thread posted on the week is reading all those “wow, you have to buy games, thanks to GPU I do not buy games anymore” as it alternates with all the threads where people swear blindly it would not help crater games perceived value and affect sales mmh mmh…
Nah, we are good, we have jobs and leaved or mums basement a long time agoMy condolences to all players who will need to pay $70 for this game.
two jobs?Nah, we are good, we have jobs and leaved or mums basement a long time ago