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Gameinformer + Ubisoft + Nintendo Rev = Red Steel
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JoshuaJSlone
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That sounds more like badminton. I'd imagine holding a button would make your character hold a grenade, you do whatever hand motions, and let go of the button to release. Exaggerated in-game strength so people don't go ruining their ability to pitch the next day by throwing so many long-distance grenades, of course.blackadde said:
Next GameInformer has the big exclusive on UbiSoft's heavily-revmote-using FPS Red Steel. A few scans have been seen online, but as is usual board rules we can't talk about how to go about the copyright infringement. Impressions on graphics seem mixed but generally positive, though there's not much to go by.TTP said:
Mike Works
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You can't see publishers releasing compelling first person shooters on a console that was almost literally made for first person shooters, especially when the first ever game showcased is a first person shooter put out by a third party? That's an extremely narrow minded view. I mean it's perfectly acceptable to say that you think the 360 will offer more/better FPS options considering the install base it had with the genre for the previous console, added with the head start of releases to fill the catalogue (CoD2, PDZ, BFMC2, etc), but to discount the potential the Revolution has is either foolish or purposefully (and with you, I'd argue hopefully) narrow minded.Mrbob said:
Chris Remo
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Mike Works said:
Well they also have to contend with the gamers who have only started playing games in the Halo age, who associate shooters with Xbox and automatically refuse to consider anything with a Nintendo badge on it.
Mike Works
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Just like Microsoft had to contend with gamers who had only started playing games in the Goldeneye age, who associated shooters with N64 and automatically refused to consider anything with a Windows badge on it.Chris Remo said:
BUT NO, TIS A NIGH IMPOSSIBLE TASK
JoshuaJSlone
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That doesn't seem to me a particularly bigger problem than contending with the gamers who associated shooters with N64's Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and Turok a few years back.Chris Remo said:
Chris Remo
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Mike Works said:
It's going to be pretty damn hard, especially since Halo isn't going anywhere.
Confidence Man
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JoshuaJSlone said:
Since Gamecube had no shooters, they had no choice but to look elsewhere. Shooters aren't going to disappear on 360.
Mike Works
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It would be near impossible were it not for the controller. It won't be easy with the revmote, but it's incredibly possible, if not maybe even probable. I honestly think the bigger enemy the system has with becoming the FPS console king is being over saturated with lesser quality FPS's.Chris Remo said:
If Revolution ends up redefining how a FPS can and should be played, on consoles but also perhaps period, on any system, I don't know if it'll render FPSes on other systems irrelevant, but perhaps, in terms of control at least, quite "old" for those who have a Revolution - and if it "works" that should be everyone who likes FPS games (it'll be our duty to buy the system and encourage excellent developer support in that genre! 
). I think that could happen if it works, and I guess Red Steel will be one of the early test cases, but I'm quite encouraged by what I hear and see so far.
). I think that could happen if it works, and I guess Red Steel will be one of the early test cases, but I'm quite encouraged by what I hear and see so far.Gaia Theory
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True, but many of the original creative minds behind it have.Chris Remo said:
Fps games are such a natural thing to develop for the rev... western devs aren't always very adventurous, and making FPS games for the rev will be an easy way to support the system. Some will port FPS games to it, and others will make original games. So in the end, the rev library will probably have a ton of FPS games. Some will be total crap, some will be brilliant, but If they are more intuitive to play than they would be on another console, it will eventually get around.
I think the FPS fans that will be easiest to convert are the ones with a background in PC gaming, where they're used to having free online and a mouse to control the cursor.. A lot of these people are willing to accept the xbox as the best console solution, but they have misgivings about it. ]
The only problem with all this is that the rev may become a console with too many FPS games from western 3rd party's. it may eventually be like "How boring... another mature FPS for the rev... Where are the damn fighting games and third person adventure titles!!"
I think the FPS fans that will be easiest to convert are the ones with a background in PC gaming, where they're used to having free online and a mouse to control the cursor.. A lot of these people are willing to accept the xbox as the best console solution, but they have misgivings about it. ]
The only problem with all this is that the rev may become a console with too many FPS games from western 3rd party's. it may eventually be like "How boring... another mature FPS for the rev... Where are the damn fighting games and third person adventure titles!!"
Chris Remo
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Gaia Theory said:
Haha, yes also true, but I think Microsoft (and Bungie) will do whatever it takes to make sure Halo 3 is as good as it can possibly be. Whatever they may say about Viva Pinata, Halo 3 is effectively their most important game.
imastalker co.
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For Reference. The GameCubes FPS Line Up.
right off the bat, Revolution already has an exclusive 3rd party FPS. GameCube never got one for what it's worth.
right off the bat, Revolution already has an exclusive 3rd party FPS. GameCube never got one for what it's worth.
Chris Remo
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Krowley said:
Japan will ensure that doesn't happen. Since that country won't produce many FPS games, if any, we can be pretty confident they'll deliver other offerings. Plus, guys like Michel Ancel of Ubisoft have been among the most enthusiastic vocal supporters of Revolution. Hopefully the Revolution version of Rayman 4 is good and sells well, then Ubi may let Ancel do something else on the system.
Chris Remo
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Idioteque said:
ALL I WANT is Pikmin 3. I would still pay full price if the system was called Pikminlution and could only play Pikmin games. If it had online vs. and co-op I think I could probably throw all my other consoles away as well.
Chris Remo said:
Yeah i'm really curious to see how platformers will work on this system.. i have some ideas but i don't know if they are workable.
I can see a mario game where it plays as if mario were standing on the end of the controller and flicking the controller up tosses him around. It would give an analog feel to jumping, but then i heard about an interveiw with shiggy where he mentions making mario jump by pointing at a spot and clicking it... That doesn't sound so hot (if the interview was even real).
It may be one genre that doesn't really benefit much, but i'm sure nintendo is working on it.
edit// and obviously i would be lying if i said i thought the next mario game will be anything less than fantastic... they will figure out a way to make it work and make it integral, but i just can't fully imagine it yet. My little idea might be cool, but it's probably not enough to make a platformer funner than they would be on a normal controler.
Gaia Theory
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The bolded points do not go together, please try again.xaosslug said:
Anyone that thinks Nintendo's revmote is low-end tech is retarded.
Chris Remo
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Gaia Theory said:
He's referring to the CPU/GPU specs there I assume.
Honestly, when it really comes down to it, I think Nintendo is going to gain more sales from people saying "Well hey that thing is only a couple hundred bucks, and it has some cool games, why not?" than they will lose by not having a system comparable to PS3/360.
That'll benefit us in the long run since it'll increase the install base and publishers will be more likely to invest in development.
Gaia Theory
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Yes, he probably is. My point is that technology defines more than just graphic technology. People that can't recognize that, or who are stuck on a specfic definition are not as adaptive to the new technologies they claim they require so badly to have fun.Chris Remo said:
xaosslug said:
well if most of the games look as nice as this one, i'm not gonna care very much. This is a pretty hot looking game (going by the screens)
edit// if we were allowed to post scans, you could definitly make some pretty amusing comparison shots with launch 360 games, including pd0 (which i always thought looked pretty good)... i know that will change as the systems go through their lifecycles, but that game definitly looks next gen, and i'll take that.
so far i'm impressed with the graphics, but it's the gameplay that sounds excellent! the way gi describes what you do in the game sounds exactly what i've been waiting for. something new, different and potentially amazing.
it's also funny seeing so many of the usual nintendo naysayers already on the defensive with what little has been revealed.
e3 is going to be fun
it's also funny seeing so many of the usual nintendo naysayers already on the defensive with what little has been revealed.
e3 is going to be fun
imastalker co.
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so no one wants ninja stars in the game?
imastalker co.
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half life 2 gravity gun action could be sweet as fuck too.
JoshuaJSlone
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In what way do you mean? And do you mean Rogue Leader at E3 2001, or Rebel Strike at E3 2003?Jacobi said:
MrSardonic
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neptunes said:
Those are triggers
Those are the past
lol
Looks more likely than ever that Revmote is going to change the standard for FPS controls - it sounds superior in every department, especially because it is so intuitive. The first-person sword-fighting alone could fill an entire game if it was intuitively done and the AI had good fighting stills.
This thread is great, especially now that some members have had time to dream up damage control about how FPS controls will still be as good using traditional pads. :lol
Gaia Theory said:
So true. Technology is like pieces of a puzzle, and high-end graphics only contribute but one of the pieces. Moreover, I just imagined playing the game and other possibilities with a RevCon, and then I imagined putting it down for a traditional controller...boy, the traditional controller is gonna feel VERY ARCHAIC after playing games on the RevMote.
Zerodoppler
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ruh-roh
Mike Works
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I think it would be pretty sweet if SEGA went all out and made the next Shinobi (or a seperate version from the PS2 updated series) for the system. If they got the controls right, it could be pretty damn sweet.Krowley said:
Chris Remo said:
:thumbs up:
But Red Steel is a pretty sweet bonus, automatically one of my most anticipated next-gen games now. The team working on it sounds pretty awesome, and the concept (not the revmote, but the actual design on how sparing a life can affect your progress) is pretty great imho.
Shit, what'd I miss guys?
Who's doomed, what type of -ton was there?
Seriously, assuming this is in game (even if just in game assets) then wow. Nintendo was right, they're not pushing horsepower, but they're intent on staying competitive.
Great concept for the game, great proof of concept for Revmote, this dude's info can't come sooner, E3 can't come sooner.
Who's doomed, what type of -ton was there?
Seriously, assuming this is in game (even if just in game assets) then wow. Nintendo was right, they're not pushing horsepower, but they're intent on staying competitive.
Great concept for the game, great proof of concept for Revmote, this dude's info can't come sooner, E3 can't come sooner.
fortified_concept
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Zerodoppler said:
wow! Where was this posted?
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