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Gameinformer + Ubisoft + Nintendo Rev = Red Steel
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Zerodoppler
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Amir0x said:
Well from the bits of the article that have been quoted, it sounds like that whole concept grew out of the team thinking of how they could use the controller.
I think we'll be seeing a lot of things happen like this, the fact the controller forces people to think differently from how they've approached game control before spins-off into a lot of new gameplay concepts.
This is certainly a very promising start, and means we won't be getting DS-style glorified tech-demos for the first 6 months. More stuff like this and the controller won't be seen as gimmicky in the slightest.
Mike Works
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IGN's forums, by a guy who works at UbiSoft.fortified_concept said:
Don't get the 'ruh-roh' comment though, that post doesn't seem negative at all.
pinkatrophe
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JESUS, Page 25?
"Great Scott!"
"Great Scott!"
Twilight Rockstar
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Unbelievable. I'm amazed that Nintendo has managed to keep codename Revolution a secret for so long with leaks like this, however I guess once this stufff is given to the press, even under NDA, it won't stay a secret for long. You can be sure that a few heads will roll, either at GI or Ubi, and there will be some VERY heated discussions at NCL.
The rest of the world has kept its mouth shut so I don't see why one idiot should ruin the surprise so early on.
The rest of the world has kept its mouth shut so I don't see why one idiot should ruin the surprise so early on.
Zerodoppler
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Twilight Rockstar said:
You mean to tell me this wasn't approved by NCL? Yeah, right.
Twilight Rockstar said:
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This was only a matter of days away from arriving at subscribers anyway wasn't it? If Nintendo didn't want this coming out before E3 they wouldn't have given an exclusive to a magazine's May issue.
I think this is all building pre-E3 hype, and doing quite a nice job of it. People are gagging to see more now, and talking about the controller, rather than doom and gloom talk about specs.
Arent there always leaks before Nintendo shows there stuff??
I mean TP was a big surprise we would see some Revolution games before E3 according to matt etc. Maybe this is just a little Reminder from Nintendo's side. A bit to early but i dont expect people to get shot because of this:lol
I mean TP was a big surprise we would see some Revolution games before E3 according to matt etc. Maybe this is just a little Reminder from Nintendo's side. A bit to early but i dont expect people to get shot because of this:lol
Twilight Rockstar
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Yeah, it was set up for the 20th, and I'm pretty sure it was set up so subs copies would go out no sooner this month. Still, it's out now. Would have been nice to hold it off for that extra 10 days in my opinion.
Whatever nintendo thinks about it (although to me it seems very likely they OK'ed this... that's certainly the kind of story I'm reading), they should be happy. Nintendos games will make the biggest splash on E3, let the good 3rd party stuff take the spotlight in the weeks before, building hype on some unique games and 3rd party support in general.Twilight Rockstar said:
Twilight Rockstar
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Anyway, I guess the ball is rolling now. And yes, we will be seeing more stuff, in an official capacity, before E3, for precisely the reasons that were stated earlier in the thread.
ionicbluebird
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I honestly hope Nintendo is in first place next gen.... this is such a huge risk they're taking, but it's an awesome risk... and honestly, if things keep progresing like they have been, they deserve it. I mean... let's all take our respective fanboy glasses off for a moment. Who here doesn't want a DS? It's such a fantastic system... but most of all, it's about unique experiences... it's what life's about. It gives us the oportunity to try something new while we pass the time... it challenges us. New ways to play. I mean... brain training... some may not be all for it... differing opinions, but you can't help but applaud Nintendo for thinking outside the box, and allowing others(developers) to do so as well. In the end.. it's the enjoyment factor that counts. When I play nintendo games, like Mario 64, or A link to the past, or Yoshi's touch & Go, I become... happy. This industry need desperately to move away from the rampant killing, and killing clones out there.... I repeat: THERE IS MORE TO INTERACTIVE ENTERTAINMENT THAN KILLING.... some of the most lauded games out there don't have the protaganist killing other humans... Shadow of the Collosus... Guitar Hero... Rez... Lumines... ICO... Jet Set Radio... Feel the Magic, and others.
A new avenue for gameplay is opening up with the induction of the Revolution....
Viva le Revolution
A new avenue for gameplay is opening up with the induction of the Revolution....
Viva le Revolution
Here's a summary of PRINCE_NineOne1's comments from the IGN boards.
He works for Ubisoft, as stated on his VIP status in IGN, he's from focus testing:
It does sound amazing!!!
He works for Ubisoft, as stated on his VIP status in IGN, he's from focus testing:
He then says the Red Steel name comes from a blood covered sword (Pootan's icon contains a sword dripping with blood):
Commenting on the leaked scans:
On swordplay:
On the game not being an on rails shooter:
Will the game have online multiplayer:
He then started a thread 'Couldn't be happier to hear your excitement - Thank You!':
It does sound amazing!!!
It is very good to see this level of support from a 3rd party at launch. An original franchise, and a polished one by the look of it. Also one that isn't just testing the ground with the console's new features, but diving straight in.
That does suggest they have real confidence in it, and that the developers were genuinely excited about developing for it. Also makes you wonder what the Japanese developers have lined up for it, as they usually embrace these things even faster.
That does suggest they have real confidence in it, and that the developers were genuinely excited about developing for it. Also makes you wonder what the Japanese developers have lined up for it, as they usually embrace these things even faster.
based on twilights rockstars comments above, i'm gonna guess that some japanese mag has an exclusive too that breakes around the 20th... probably a game that will appeal more to japanese gamers from a japanese third party... Also, all the major websites like IGN and gamespot probably have coverage ready to release at some pre-defined point.
hopefully the japanese mag will leak early too
And nintendo shouldn't be pissy about this... this has been a good unvieling and overall it's good press for the system, for the most part, everybody is digging it and it's hushed up most of the graphics fears.
hopefully the japanese mag will leak early too
And nintendo shouldn't be pissy about this... this has been a good unvieling and overall it's good press for the system, for the most part, everybody is digging it and it's hushed up most of the graphics fears.
Lakitu said:
Yeah, I think one of the best things about all this was that on page 1 it's all "First Revolution game info and screens in next issue of GI!", and everyone's "Can't wait!", then literally a few posts later it's "Here they are!"
Couldn't have been planned better if you'd tried
Didn't Nintendo Power say something about a major exclusive next issue? Also Official Nintendo Magazine comes out in the UK around the 20th (personally I like the magKrowley said:based on twilights rockstars comments above, i'm gonna guess that some japanese mag has an exclusive too that breakes around the 20th... probably a game that will appeal more to japanese gamers from a japanese third party... Also, all the major websites like IGN and gamespot probably have coverage ready to release at some pre-defined point.
hopefully the japanese mag will leak early too
And nintendo shouldn't be pissy about this... this has been a good unvieling and overall it's good press for the system, for the most part, everybody is digging it and it's hushed up most of the graphics fears.
).I don't think Nintendo will be angry at this, in fact I don't believe they leave anything to chance. I'm pretty sure they will have anticipated the GI story coming out now and purposely made the first Revolution game to be fully revealed a FPS.
Wollan said:
Well the sword in the game would definitely need an onscreen representation to work, so the gun has to as well really.
And plus the little gimmick about seeing the gun move and tilt as you move the controller I think will make the whole thing seem 'magic' to the general consumer. All in all a great showcase for the system if it all looks and moves as well as the shots suggest.
Battersea Power Station
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Nintendo is not reinventing the light gun. They're making a new standard controller. That's just what it is -- a controller. It's not meant to be a prop. Whether Ubi has pulled that off remains to be seen.Wollan said:
That would be me. I bought one on launch day, bought one again later when the games started improving. Never did get used to it. I just loathe playing games on the touch screen. It simply isn't any fun. But Red Steel, yeah that looks nice. I saw the screens, look forward to seeing if they can match those target renders that are shown in GI.ionicbluebird said:
PjotrStroganov
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So we know for sure this is an FPS and not a railshooter?
Companion Cube
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How did this railshooter thing start and why does it keep going? :lol
ziran said:Here's a summary of PRINCE_NineOne1's comments from the IGN boards.
He works for Ubisoft, as stated on his VIP status in IGN, he's from focus testing:
He then says the Red Steel name comes from a blood covered sword (Pootan's icon contains a sword dripping with blood):
Commenting on the leaked scans:
On swordplay:
On the game not being an on rails shooter:
Will the game have online multiplayer:
He then started a thread 'Couldn't be happier to hear your excitement - Thank You!':
It does sound amazing!!!
Thanks for the round up. Got me all giddy.
EOGamer said:
:lol
PjotrStroganov
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Shinoobi said:
I haven't read all the 20+pages so I'm not in the know of what was said before. The action scenes in the pics just seem very scripted. Nice to hear it is a real fps.
PjotrStroganov
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SnakeXs said:
Yes.
It's a gift.
I'm really excited by this. Rev could possibly become my most wanted system, or thereabouts! I'm trying to temper my expectations, though, prior to E3 - will we really see a 'home-run' in terms of the controller's utilisation with a launch title or launch titles? It seems like something devs might need to get used to and to iterate over. Then again, even a less-than-perfect usage of the controller might be refreshing, and more compelling than what we've had before. I fully expect we'll see some stupid uses, but I think Red Steel sounds like a promising start I can't wait for E3
I can't wait for E3 found this on another forum... quotes from the article
the guy was able to puzzle out more stuff, but i figured that if i posted more than that, it might be like posting scans or something and against the rules..
interesting to hear that the revmote even changed their philosophy about enemy placement to allow for more complex gunplay.
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the guy was able to puzzle out more stuff, but i figured that if i posted more than that, it might be like posting scans or something and against the rules..
interesting to hear that the revmote even changed their philosophy about enemy placement to allow for more complex gunplay.
n-off said:
I agree, since I'm a co-op whore, but a good, small scale vs. mode would be insane. Not to cause any ruckus, but I'd imagine the "skill" required by this game to be so different, that a vs. type of match would be pretty refreshing.
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Draft said:
Exactly how long have you been playing games? I hate to pull this card, but it is clear the Revolution's promise has to do with making the input to the game more fun, and it is clear that the new technology could do that. Clearly none of us have played with the Revolution controller (minus the super-secret-industry trypes around here) but if you've played games for any significant amount of time you can see the simple truth about the possibilities of such technology. Throwing a grenade by physically moving my hand and controlling the strength of that throw is not something I've ever done in another first person shooter, and I have played games for almost 20 years. I have played through NES, SNES, N64, PS, and PS2 (to a certain extent). I've also had many run ins with all the famous PC first person shooters. OF COURSE we have mapped all these actions to a gamepad before, where a button would control their execution rather than our movement. But that's just it, the revolution controller allows us to remove that filter on our gameplay experience, and I'll be damned if I'm not going to give the product, its price point, and its games a damn good look with my money if this type of input can be mastered and demonstrated to be fun. From what I have read on this game alone, chances are an FPS on a standard controller couldn't touch it, at least for me. So my friend, saying that things in this FPS can be done using a standard gamepad just doesn't cut it.
Couldn't have said it better myself.ionicbluebird said:
In the end it doesn't matter what company makes these kind of jumps in videogame entertainment. It could have been Sega, Sony or Microsoft, or even a new player coming out of the blue.
What is the important thing is that new possibilities are opening up. Totally new ways of playing games sometimes intertwined with classic gameplay, sometimes not.
Over all these years of playing games lots of us have become stuck in certain routines (myself included). Going as far as ignoring perticular genre's completely.
I see this development as a way to get a clean start again.
In the 8 and 16 bit days I played whatever I could get my hand on, no matter what genre it was because there were so many new things to be experienced.
Looking at this first game for the revolution and thinking about all the possibilities that are being opened up, even though we can't yet imagine half of them right now makes me very excited.
Just like I was when the DS concept was first announced, in fact.
There are exciting times ahead that's for sure.
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