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[Razoric]

Why??? what is wrong with the new pics????

Nothing is wrong with them really, its just a better overall view of where some of the sacrifices were made (low poly, etc). Still looks good though, just not 360 / PS3 good.

 

[SoVos20]

These touched about photos are nothing special. Xbox could do this. NEXT.

 

[Tiger]

:lol

 

[imastalker co.]

PS3 + Mouse/Keyboard support.

If the game's good, it'll be good on a regular controller. Not like the Rev is going to transform a 4.5 game into a 9.0.

only the aiming would translate well. everything else would have to be redone as far as the controls go.

throwing grenades, using the sword, and everything else that makes use of the revmote will be lost in the translation. not to mention that all the games mechanics and levels were designed with the revmote in mind.

it's almost like saying "hey, let's port steel battalion to ps2 and use normal controls. or throw in mouse keyboard support"

yeah it's do-able, but would you really be interested in playing without the controller it was designed for?

 

[Rocked]

Never mind.

 

[Confidence Man]

Tech and style wise it reminds me a lot of Jade Empire.

 

[ahmad]

Where can the new scans be found?

Uh oh. You better not ask for them

 

[imastalker co.]

i must really suck at the internet, because im as good as blind right now. can't see shit.

 

[Particle Physicist]

those new scans are extremely compressed jpgs.. jeeze. im gonna wait for direct feed pictures/video before making a final judgment.

 

[Zerodoppler]

yeah it's do-able, but would you really be interested in playing without the controller it was designed for?

I doubt anyone on this board would consider getting it on another platform, but the more limited controls won't stop most people that already bought a PS3 or X360 to get it for those platforms. Mario 64 was designed for the N64 controller, yet loads of people bought Mario 64 DS.

 

[Tiger]

i must really suck at the internet, because im as good as blind right now. can't see shit.

Yeah, I suck at the internet too. :lol

 

[SoVos20]

How are people impressed with this graphics.

 

[Ghengis Cohen]

How are people impressed with this graphics.

So
Graphics>Grammar?

 

[DefectiveReject]

as the guys said yesterday who i quoted from Official Nintendo Magazine, ALL GAMES which will be shown outside of Nintendo 1st party are running on NON FINAL hardware.
Don't be too worried.

 

[SoVos20]

as the guys said yesterday who i quoted from Official Nintendo Magazine, ALL GAMES which will be shown outside of Nintendo 1st party are running on NON FINAL hardware.
Don't be too worried.

I agree. These 2nd year Xbox type graphics should not be something to worry about. Revolution should be able to do late Xbox graphics too.

 

[superfly]

^ its not worrying, they still look nice. Its just that they dont look as hot as the first shots!

 

[Great Rumbler]

I agree. These 2nd year Xbox type graphics should not be something to worry about. Revolution should be able to do late Xbox graphics too.

Never give up, never surrender!

 

[Chiggs]

Saw the new scans. Graphics aren't as good as what we saw before, but it still looks pretty tight.

Question for some of the tech-savvy posters out there: Can Nintendo and Nintendo fanboys actually use the "but it's not running on final hardware!" excuse? I mean, it's not like the Revolution is using exotic new hardware (like the PS3 and Xbox 360). Surely the dev kits that are out there are fairly representative of the system's power?

 

[Snow]

Saw the new scans. Graphics aren't as good as what we saw before, but it still looks pretty tight.

Question for some of the tech-savvy posters out there: Can Nintendo and Nintendo fanboys actually use the "but it's not running on final hardware!" excuse? I mean, it's not like the Revolution is using exotic new hardware (like the PS3 and Xbox 360). Surely the dev kits that are out there are fairly representative of the system's power?

But Nintendo has Pikmin power, and "one last secret"!

 

[DefectiveReject]

I agree. These 2nd year Xbox type graphics should not be something to worry about. Revolution should be able to do late Xbox graphics too.

How has this guy not been banned yet?
Also the scans look just fine.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

I agree. These 2nd year Xbox type graphics should not be something to worry about. Revolution should be able to do late Xbox graphics too.

Shake the banstick!

 

[SoVos20]

How has this guy not been banned yet?
Also the scans look just fine.

What I said the graphics will look better than the scan. Don't worry we will see late xbox graphics for Rev launch.

 

[Zilch]

Oh shut up. SoVos is absolutely right.

Reject, you think the final dev kit is going to magically transform these graphics from "something an XBox could do" to "OMG NEXT GEN TOTAL"?

Keep trippin'!

 

[SnakeXs]

Saw the new scans. Graphics aren't as good as what we saw before, but it still looks pretty tight.

Question for some of the tech-savvy posters out there: Can Nintendo and Nintendo fanboys actually use the "but it's not running on final hardware!" excuse? I mean, it's not like the Revolution is using exotic new hardware (like the PS3 and Xbox 360). Surely the dev kits that are out there are fairly representative of the system's power?

They aren't, so yes. It's already been brought up that only Nintendo, that only they h ave final hardware, all third parties don't.

 

[SoVos20]

Oh shut up. SoVos is absolutely right.

Reject, you think the final dev kit is going to magically transform these graphics from "something an XBox could do" to "OMG NEXT GEN TOTAL"?

Keep trippin'!

Exactly

 

[monkeyrun]

Oh shut up. SoVos is absolutely right.

Reject, you think the final dev kit is going to magically transform these graphics from "wallguy at best" to "OMG NEXT GEN TOTAL"?

Keep trippin'!

Fixed

 

[DefectiveReject]

Oh shut up. SoVos is absolutely right.

Reject, you think the final dev kit is going to magically transform these graphics from "something an XBox could do" to "OMG NEXT GEN TOTAL"?

Keep trippin'!

And the troll train picks up its first paying customer

 

[imastalker co.]

any word on if this is coming to revolution?

 

[cybamerc]

Question for some of the tech-savvy posters out there: Can Nintendo and Nintendo fanboys actually use the "but it's not running on final hardware!" excuse? I mean, it's not like the Revolution is using exotic new hardware (like the PS3 and Xbox 360).

With six months left to go the graphics won't improve a whole lot. And that has nothing do with the hardware. PS3 software isn't going to look a whole lot better in six months either.

 

[Avutta1978]

PS3 + Mouse/Keyboard support.

If the game's good, it'll be good on a regular controller. Not like the Rev is going to transform a 4.5 game into a 9.0.

maybe you didn't read, it said there are things you do in the game only possible on the rev controller.

 

[TheKingsCrown]

it's a safe bet for numerous reasons.

even if it did hit other systems out of nowhere, who would want to play a game that was built from the ground up with the revmote in mind with 2 sticks?

The other reason it is a safe bet is that Nintendo was heavily involved in the development of the game. If they spent money on it, that could mean it is partly their property, although who knows.

 

[SoVos20]

With six months left to go the graphics won't improve a whole lot. And that has nothing do with the hardware. PS3 software isn't going to look a whole lot better in six months either.

Ah but PS3 release games will look better than anything Rev could ever do.

PS3 = Real Next Gen System
Rev = GC+

 

[imastalker co.]

sovos, you're gonna get banned anyways. take one for the team. is there any info on that clue game in game informer?

 

[John Harker]

Are these new pics of different parts of the game or better versions of the old scans.

 

[TheKingsCrown]

Ah but PS3 release games will look better than anything Rev could ever do.

PS3 = Real Next Gen System
Rev = GC+

Panda please?

 

[cybamerc]

Noone here at this point has enough information to make visual conclusions yet, so please dont pretend to.

I doubt seeing it in motion is going to make a huge difference. Certainly you can't appreciate the animation and physics in still shots but I doubt those things will be up to the standards of PS3 and Xbox 360 titles. But at the same time I think it is a mistake to compare Rev and PS3/Xbox 360 software. Nintendo has different priorities and has been quite open about it. At least people should wait a price before spelling doom for Nintendo.

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

Oh shut up. SoVos is absolutely right.

Reject, you think the final dev kit is going to magically transform these graphics from "something an XBox could do" to "OMG NEXT GEN TOTAL"?

Keep trippin'!

THe first Xbox 360 game revealed was PD0. One of the first shots we got was Wallguy.
The pictures of Red Steel look alot better than the first pics of PD0, and it''s further from release then PD0 was when it was first released.

The only conclusion that can be reached is: Revolution power >>>>> Xbox360 power.

 

[SoVos20]

I doubt seeing it in motion is going to make a huge difference. Certainly you can't appreciate the animation and physics in still shots but I doubt those things will be up to the standards of PS3 and Xbox 360 titles. But at the same time I think it is a mistake to compare Rev and PS3/Xbox 360 software. Nintendo has different priorities and has been quite open about it. At least people should wait a price before spelling doom for Nintendo.

Exactly Nintendo priority is rebagaging old technology as new. Sony and M$ priority is delivering the newest technology to the people.

 

[Chiggs]

Are these new pics of different parts of the game or better versions of the old scans.

Some are different, some are the same. I would hesitate to call them better, though. They look a little worse than what we've already seen. Nothing too major, but certainly noticeable.

 

[Gahiggidy]

New scans make the Rev look more capable, not less. The Polygon count may not be as high as alot of new games... but the texture detail is more than adequate.


Game shots remind me alot about Goldeneye.

 

[Cosmozone]

Question for some of the tech-savvy posters out there: Can Nintendo and Nintendo fanboys actually use the "but it's not running on final hardware!" excuse?

I'm not tech-savvy, but final hardware is reported to give a 5-10% power boost. Not too much. However if I were a developer I'd feel uncertain about what I can demand at most from the hardware and play it safe for the time being.

 

[Gee]

Exactly Nintendo priority is rebagaging old technology as new. Sony and M$ priority is delivering the newest technology to the people.

Mark this as the point where the thread got ugly :lol

 

[Zilch]

And the troll train picks up its first paying customer

Consistantly awful boarder.

 

[Doc Holliday]

He's not even a good troll. Drinky used those same lines ages ago..

 

[cybamerc]

The pictures of Red Steel look alot better than the first pics of PD0, and it''s further from release then PD0 was when it was first released.

The first PD0 screens looked truly awful (and to be honest the final game doesn't look that great either) but they still showed graphics that are technically more advanced than Red Steel's. It just proves that things like parallax mapping and other fancy shader tricks are no substitute for art direction and polish.

 

[BuzzJive]

Question for some of the tech-savvy posters out there: Can Nintendo and Nintendo fanboys actually use the "but it's not running on final hardware!" excuse? I mean, it's not like the Revolution is using exotic new hardware (like the PS3 and Xbox 360). Surely the dev kits that are out there are fairly representative of the system's power?

Apparently you weren't around for all the PDZ/20%/50%/75% of the 360's power stuff. Good times.

 

[Great Rumbler]

Exactly Nintendo priority is rebagaging old technology as new. Sony and M$ priority is delivering the newest technology to the people.

New and improved!

 

[Cosmozone]

Just noticed that the glass flying around has little cracks on its own. Pretty cool.

 

[Ulairi]

The game looks really good to me. I'm perfectly happy with it.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

can someone please explain this panda bs? What did I miss?

Something that was funny for about two pages in a thread.

Nothing Owlish at all.