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[Gunslinger]

Since when does game development just.. stop once you're 2 months away from the launch of a game, especially when we're not talking big changes but tidying up models and presentation?

Destiny 2 is releasing two weeks earlier and is still undergoing balancing in response to feedback as we speak, just like MvC:I is incorporating feedback from recent builds. It's the norm.

Bro....

There is a difference between balance changes and minor tweaks Vs Reworking your graphics engine.

 

[brian!]

Pretty hype for mahvel, i hope all the infinity stone stuff is balanced alright

 

[Dark Ninja]

Alot of models need work but they just can't be zoomed in on, they aren't made for that. They look ok to good during gameplay but abysmal during those in game cinematics. The art direction overall is bad. I honestly doubt there will be major changes they are too close to release.

All these need work:

-Chun-Li
-Captain America
-Chris Redfield
-Dante's Face
-Dr. Strange's outfit mostly the shirt and pants.
-Haggar looks strange in this artstyle maybe its the face

 

[Bronetta]

I find it alarming that they needed feedback to know how shit some characters look.

 

[Gunslinger]

Funny how people smack talk NRS about character design and praise capcom. Seems like a 180 of that now.

 

[direct_quote]

Bro....

There is a difference between balance changes and minor tweaks Vs Reworking your graphics engine.

How are they reworking their graphics engine? They are updating models and tweaking effects/adding effects.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Who could that be?

Chris, Dante, Spencer, etc.

I find it alarming that they needed feedback to know how shit some characters look.

Ironically enough the only reason why Marvel characters look so good because they have Marvel workers checking on their contents and make sure they are doing them faithfully. I wonder why not for Capcom too? I guess they doesn't have someone to check their quality on their end.

 

[Dark Ninja]

Funny how people smack talk NRS about character design and praise capcom. Seems like a 180 of that now.

On a technical level they are on top of their game but the NRS designs are still too busy and some are still fugly looking.

 

[Roo]

Chris, Dante, Spencer, etc.



Ironically enough the only reason why Marvel characters look so good because they have Marvel workers checking on their contents and make sure they are doing them faithfully. I wonder why not for Capcom too? I guess they doesn't have someone to check their quality on their end.

To be completely honest, you don't have to be an expert to see those character models and say: "yes, these are shit"

Whoever is in charge of the character model design needs to be fired lol

 

[katsubento]

She looks so good in V. I don't know what they were thinking when they released that story trailer at E3...she looked like a Stoned Bratz doll.

 

[gablekevin]

That's... demonstrably wrong.

There art style is trash, don't get me wrong but it does not look like an upscaled PS3 game, let alone a PS2 one.

Its not even worth acknowledging trolls like this man. They are probably on FFXII remaster threads going "i dont see the difference". If you dont like the artstyle thats fine but dont start making things up

 

[PulseONE]

I dunno if its the art style or just bad modelling but yeah, some of these look...not great

 

[direct_quote]

On a technical level they are on top of their game but the NRS designs are still too busy and some are still fugly looking.

People aren't wrong, but IJ2 is the first NRS game that I feel looks great. Minus some clunky animations. Just looking at IJ1 they have come a long way. Just looking how clashes come together too, looked so weird in IJ1 lol..

 

[oneida]

Whats wrong with her character model? Maybe she is 50 or 60 in the story mode and that's why she looks like that, we don't know.

what... what to you think happens to people as they age

 

[IntelliHeath]

To be completely honest, you don't have to be an expert to see those character models and say: "yes, these are shit"

Whoever is in charge of the character model design needs to be fired lol

Exactly, I don't deny that but sometime people are blinded by their works being biased, and all that.

 

[PulseONE]

what... what to you think happens to people as they age

Their eyes get bigger, what kind of old people do you look at?

 

[evil monkey]

People are focusing on Chun because she's the worst looking but tbh none of the characters look especially good besides Jedah and X.

 

[Zero-ELEC]

Still looks really bad nothing close to its competitors like MK or DBZ or Tekken 7. Even SFV looks better than this.

I don't deny this. Still what you said was hyperbolic.

 

[enzo_gt]

Bro....

There is a difference between balance changes and minor tweaks Vs Reworking your graphics engine.

The graphics engine doesn't need a rework. The art style just should have been more stylized than realistic to start with to better accommodate Capcom characters that come from games that are heavily stylized or really old.

I find it alarming that they needed feedback to know how shit some characters look.

This is a real concern, but they're probably just working under pretty big budget constraints.

Funny how people smack talk NRS about character design and praise capcom. Seems like a 180 of that now.

Yeah, I think this is the clearest example yet of NRS and Capcom swapping traditional roles here, where NRS used to get a lot of shit for their faces (even with early IJ2, which also improved as development got really close to release) and the other way around for Capcom. NRS animations are still WOAT, though.

People are focusing on Chun because she's the worst looking but tbh none of the characters look especially good besides Jedah and X.

Nonsense. Gamora, Nova, Nemesis, Captain Marvel, Thanos, Strider etc. all look fantastic. The models in this game mostly look good with a small minority of them that need a little work:

- Chun-Li's face and head proportions
- Chris' face and head proportions
- Dante's face and skin tone
- Haggar's skin tone
- Tony Stark's face
- Cap's original design is just ugly, not much to be done there besides a new model altogether

Now, the art-style is a whole other complaint altogether, but perhaps one of the biggest knocks against the game because it disproportionately affects Capcom characters.

Maybe the worst thing about the Story Demo was that it showed everyone on XGard, which as we've seen, has the worst lighting of all the different environments we've seen characters in thus far.

 

[Lulubop]

I don't deny this. Still what you said was hyperbolic.

That's Gunslingers gimmick

 

[Anticol]

what... what to you think happens to people as they age

Their physiques go to shit. Thats what I meant.

 

[LiK]

Who could that be?

Chris, Dante, Morrigan etc all have goofy faces

 

[evil monkey]

Nonsense. Gamora, Nova, Nemesis, Captain Marvel, Thanos, Strider etc. all look fantastic. The models in this game mostly look good with a small minority of them that need a little work:

- Chun-Li's face and head proportions
- Chris' face and head proportions
- Dante's face and skin tone
- Haggar's skin tone
- Tony Stark's face
- Cap's original design is just ugly, not much to be done there besides a new model altogether

Now, the art-style is a whole other complaint altogether, but perhaps one of the biggest knocks against the game because it disproportionately affects Capcom characters.

Maybe the worst thing about the Story Demo was that it showed everyone on XGard, which as we've seen, has the worst lighting of all the different environments we've seen characters in thus far.

Half of those were from 3 though. The rest aren't looking terrible but they're nothing amazing either. I'm singling out Jedah and X because they're the only ones who look like they came from old school Capcom.

 

[Gunslinger]

Chris, Dante, Morrigan etc all have goofy faces

I don't think a single character in this game looks good aside from Gamora. I mean atleast characters that don't wear masks.

 

[Bronetta]

I don't think a single character in this game looks good aside from Gamora. I mean atleast characters that don't wear masks.

Jedah looks pretty good

 

[Gunslinger]

Jedah looks pretty good

Oh yeah Forgot about him. They didn't advertise that character at all lol. Just an exhibition match and that's it.

 

[Skab]

Bro....

There is a difference between balance changes and minor tweaks Vs Reworking your graphics engine.

Reworking the graphics engine? What?

They're not doing anything near that level, just giving the models more work. There's a huge difference there.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Still say a big issue is an apparent rush dev time and needing to make a deadline. This why they're saying faces are "day one". However I do think they'd have tried to sneak past had there not been a large fuss made around them.

So while it's sad that such measures are needed to be heard. At least in this case it worked. Had the majority of comments just been "I hope they fix it" and the game hadn't been meme'd on hard on basically every social media outlet. We'd be no where with potential improvements.



Too bad they won't do anything about 4 females in the roster though.

 

[GuardianE]

Good. It was embarrassing.

 

[SixMachine]

They better fix those goddamn eyebrows, it's like 3/4 of them are missing. They have the pretty good SF5 model to base this off of, what were they even referncing when modeling her?

 

[shaowebb]

People weren't loud enough about Dante's face it seems.

Man the more I look at it the worse it gets.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

Man the more I look at it the worse it gets.

😂😂😂🤣🤣😭🤣🤣 *dead*

 

[.la1n]

I hope for Capcom's sake that day one patch is amazing. If not, the backlash they are seeing now will be a drop in the bucket.

 

[bryt]

It's not just her face that needs fixing. Her proportions are all off. And that crab walk...

 

[mcmmaster]

Shouldn't have happened in the first place had they cared for the IP and characters and not rushed out minimal effort products.

The marketing and development for this game is pathetic and it boggles my mind people are looking forward to it, especially after the train wreck that SFV is.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Get hype

 

[ZeoVGM]

What about the overall graphics of the game and not just Chun li's face? The game looks like a early ps3 or late ps2 game with higher resolution AKA an android/iOS game.

Oh god.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Get hype

That can't be real.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Shouldn't have happened in the first place had they cared for the IP and characters and not rushed out minimal effort products.

The marketing and development for this game is pathetic and it boggles my mind people are looking forward to it, especially after the train wreck that SFV is.

I think Justin Wong put it best

to paraphrase what he said

Even if you don't like MvCI you're going to buy it and play it because you want to be part of the scene.

 

[Bronetta]

I think Justin Wong put it best

to paraphrase what he said

Even if you don't like MvCI you're going to buy it and play it because you want to be part of the scene.

Because that worked out so well for SFV. Most entrants ever at EVO, total commercial flop on the market. Couldnt even get to their initial target of 2 million.

 

[Mediking]

Chun, Frank, Dante.... and CHRIS.

 

[RedAssedApe]

hopefully everyone's dead lifeless eyes get an upgrade

 

[Mediking]

I think Justin Wong put it best

to paraphrase what he said

Even if you don't like MvCI you're going to buy it and play it because you want to be part of the scene.

This diehard FGC has really gotta stop this kinda thinking. It gets them nowhere. If the sales for this game turns out to be a bomb... what's he gonna say then?

 

[RedAssedApe]

I think Justin Wong put it best

to paraphrase what he said

Even if you don't like MvCI you're going to buy it and play it because you want to be part of the scene.

dat zeitgeist. its mahvel baby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Because that worked out so well for SFV. Most entrants ever at EVO, total commercial flop on the market. Couldnt even get to their initial target of 2 million.

But pros are still playing it.

 

[Mediking]

But pros are still playing it.

I guess that's all that matters in the end, huh? Lmao oh come on

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

I guess that's all that matters in the end, huh? Lmao oh come on

I'm not denying it's selling like shit, but it'll still get the competition.

 

[Mediking]

I'm not denying it's selling like shit, but it'll still get the competition.

I actually played a little bit of SFV against a pretty experienced guy the other day. He was playing like it was life or death for him. He was on tilt and hungry for a win. I was like, "Oh, he's fgc for sure." Lol

 

[Son Of Sparda]

I think Justin Wong put it best

to paraphrase what he said

Even if you don't like MvCI you're going to buy it and play it because you want to be part of the scene.

So people will buy 2 million copies of this (Capcom's expectations for the title) just so they can be part of the scene? Isn't that the same line of thinking that led to SFV's commercial failure?

 

[jett]

Because that worked out so well for SFV. Most entrants ever at EVO, total commercial flop on the market. Couldnt even get to their initial target of 2 million.

I assume Wong was only talking about the hardcore FG fans, which are the ones doing most of the MvCI hating.

Capcom's focus on esports blew up in their faces with SFV. Even their TV ads were about esports. I have no idea what's their marketing plan for MvCI, but I imagine not that.