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Gamespot reviews Red Steel
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The guys at EGM have been saying for months that Red Steel's played like shit. This doesn't seem to come as that much of a surprise.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Those NGC shots look quite good.
UBI would of payed a million yen for an 8.8. :lol
I just get this general feeling that some gaming purist sites simply will never like the Wii no matter what games come out for it. The detest the notion of "waggle" and will show it in every review. Too bad the Wii will sell like gang-busters regardless.
I just get this general feeling that some gaming purist sites simply will never like the Wii no matter what games come out for it. The detest the notion of "waggle" and will show it in every review. Too bad the Wii will sell like gang-busters regardless.
Corwood Rep
Member
Man, Nintendo sucks. What a horrible company. **** Nintendo.
clearacell
Member
This is what I'm not liking about these reviews from GS
Their graphical standards are impossibly high for what the Wii is capable of...they expect stuff to look like 360 and PS3 games.
I mean, they're gonna have to knock Mario Galaxy's graphics because it probably could have been done on the Gamecube, even though it looks absolutely beautiful.
GregK said:
Their graphical standards are impossibly high for what the Wii is capable of...they expect stuff to look like 360 and PS3 games.
I mean, they're gonna have to knock Mario Galaxy's graphics because it probably could have been done on the Gamecube, even though it looks absolutely beautiful.
_Alkaline_
Member
Graphics got a 6? I realise Red Steel has an odd art style, but the game is easily the best looking on Wii right now.
I don't trust Gamespot reviews anymore after today. They're complete trash, even if their Red Steel review turns out to be accurate.
I don't trust Gamespot reviews anymore after today. They're complete trash, even if their Red Steel review turns out to be accurate.
citrus lump
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QuickKick89 said:
They could buy Madden.....
Why I'm answering your troll ass is beyond me.
On the plus side (and I recognize this is reaching for positives/damage controlling) the review basically says that the control scheme is promising and while there are some problems, they sound more related to particular design choices, like not supporting gestures like stabbing with the sword or having unintuitive gestures like moving the remote forward to zoom in with a sniper rifle. Kasavin says that the controls "have the potential to be a good fit for a better game".
What really brings the game down is the terrible AI, story, multiplayer, presentation, and design...that's a long list of terrible things, but before this game came out some people were arguing that FPS's just flat out wouldn't work or wouldn't be any better with the Wiimote (remember the long threads about that?), whereas this review seems to indicate that a well-designed and more well thought out FPS could benefit from Red Steel's control scheme.
What really brings the game down is the terrible AI, story, multiplayer, presentation, and design...that's a long list of terrible things, but before this game came out some people were arguing that FPS's just flat out wouldn't work or wouldn't be any better with the Wiimote (remember the long threads about that?), whereas this review seems to indicate that a well-designed and more well thought out FPS could benefit from Red Steel's control scheme.
gamergirly
Member
hyp said:
I didnt. Unlike Zelda a complete polished game which wasnt even properly reviewed :lol, I believe Red Steel was a 1st generation Wii experiment. The next game will rock
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Nobody here (save for that one guy who originally wanted a PS3) has a Wii yet and you don't have this game either. Wait...........then go play the game and return to this thread and let us know whether you honestly agree with the score or not.
Stormbringer
Member
If it's really as bad as the reviewer make it look like, well, I think I will just wait for Red Steel 2 then... IF this game sells enough to warrant a sequel, obviously.
clearacell
Member
Xeke said:
Yeah, but if they employ the same logic to a Wii game that looks like RE4 (which is roughly about as good as the Wii can push), GS can still say "it looks like a PS2 game, not up to the current gen standards".
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
This is entirely a product of too-high of expectations combined with a whole lot of effective and timely advertising that built this game up to be something that it's not. We might have known once those first reports were coming back about the controls.
I don't think the score is indicative of what was written, I think it is almost being punished for the hype surrounding it. Read this:
A lot of these gripes do seem legit, even though the score perhaps does not indicate what they're saying. But I also think they might be a bit harder on this game than they would on another multi-platform title of similar quality just because of its hype, exclusivity, and expectations surrounding the title.
I don't think the score is indicative of what was written, I think it is almost being punished for the hype surrounding it. Read this:
said:
A lot of these gripes do seem legit, even though the score perhaps does not indicate what they're saying. But I also think they might be a bit harder on this game than they would on another multi-platform title of similar quality just because of its hype, exclusivity, and expectations surrounding the title.
Son of Godzilla
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I can't wait for GS's Wii reviews to magically gain 3-4 points for no reason other than the fact it's been embraced by the masses.
And seriously, that fat **** is Demi right?
And seriously, that fat **** is Demi right?
Zombie James
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BlindN-Fan said:
Tim the Wiz
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Not totally unexpected. Red Steel's been iffy for quite a while and Kasavin is probably the only GameSpot reviewer I trust.
Otherwise, UbiSoft has really dropped the ball in terms of quality, outside of Rayman and well, Rayman? But the Wii [third-party] launch lineup isn't that shot to hell though, I mean Call of Duty 3, Metal Slug, Trauma Center and Monkey Ball look particularly solid.
Otherwise, UbiSoft has really dropped the ball in terms of quality, outside of Rayman and well, Rayman? But the Wii [third-party] launch lineup isn't that shot to hell though, I mean Call of Duty 3, Metal Slug, Trauma Center and Monkey Ball look particularly solid.
i've trusted Kasavin ever since his ninja gaiden review, which was totally spot on and completley reflected my own thoughts on the game.
If he hates this game bad enough to score it in the 5's, you can pretty much bet that it's horrible. Even when i disagree with him, i can clearly see from the text of his reviews why he gave the score and make a decent judgement about whether the issues would bother me.
the issues he talks about in this review sound truly horrible and i'm pretty sure they would bother me greatly. I expected this game to score in the high 8's but unless ign or 1up give it a really high score and totally contradict this review, there is no reason to assume that this is a worthy game.
It sounds like it's a buggy, unpolished piece of crap.
He's a good reviewer... probably the best one at gamespot.
edit// and i also want to mention that gamespots scoring system of averaging all the catagory's together is the biggest problem with their site. It's not a fair way to judge a game, since many are much greater than the sum of their parts. It's possible that on the zelda review, gerstman averaged all the scores together, saw how low it was going to be and then wrote his review to justify the score.
If matt from ign had used the same system of averages, TP would have scored much lower than it did. But they don't do that, and that's why i have always preffered their review system.
If he hates this game bad enough to score it in the 5's, you can pretty much bet that it's horrible. Even when i disagree with him, i can clearly see from the text of his reviews why he gave the score and make a decent judgement about whether the issues would bother me.
the issues he talks about in this review sound truly horrible and i'm pretty sure they would bother me greatly. I expected this game to score in the high 8's but unless ign or 1up give it a really high score and totally contradict this review, there is no reason to assume that this is a worthy game.
It sounds like it's a buggy, unpolished piece of crap.
He's a good reviewer... probably the best one at gamespot.
edit// and i also want to mention that gamespots scoring system of averaging all the catagory's together is the biggest problem with their site. It's not a fair way to judge a game, since many are much greater than the sum of their parts. It's possible that on the zelda review, gerstman averaged all the scores together, saw how low it was going to be and then wrote his review to justify the score.
If matt from ign had used the same system of averages, TP would have scored much lower than it did. But they don't do that, and that's why i have always preffered their review system.
QuickKick89
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What makes me a troll and makes Anihawk a smarmy jerk? I'm not trolling, but if my opinion is a tad harsh I can tone it down.
I more say what I say kind of tug at the cheek of N-bots. Nothing more.
I more say what I say kind of tug at the cheek of N-bots. Nothing more.
BigBoss said:
RS doesn't use any tricks to make it look good. It doesn't have any flat textures that look bumped from a far. From what I see from RS pics RS obviously looks as good as HL2 except for the detail on models and as big a draw distance. But guess what RS can look as good without loading.
Shard said:
how far we've come, though!
Remember when the first grainy photos of Red Steel came from Game Informer, and the Nintendo fanatics were like "HOLY SHIT LOOKS ON PAR WITH 360 GAMES I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SAY"
and then, oh precious reality, as the weeks and weeks progressed and they saw what it really looked like, and how it really played like... and well... times change so fast, don't they? You don't even have time to savour the madness anymore :lol
Ganondorfo
Junior Member
Tim the Wiz said:
The best games from ubisoft are coming to x360/PS3
Assassin's creed
Brothers in arms 3
Rainbow six: vegas
Splinter cell 5
Son of Godzilla
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Xeke said:
Dude RE4 looks better than half the 360's library.
Shard said:
i did. i thought it was gonna surprise everybody and score in the high 8's and low 9's. After POP and a few others, i have trusted ubisoft to put a certain level of spit and polish on their games. I figured this one would come through in the end.
Obviously i was wrong.