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You don't think 57% is enough to make sweeping comments? Well I sure do. If its not you, it very well could be your partner.

I'm not trying to use GAF to fix anything. I thought It might be more interesting than the typical conversation here. Seems only a few are able to handle it.

Wow. Talk about missing the point. Feel free to scroll past then.

I've learned some things and considered others because of this thread. Maybe some others have too.

No, I don't think 57% is enough to make such drastic claims of human nature. And considering statistical variance and I suspect a low p-value, I wouldn't hold this up as the definitive evidence that humans are, by their very nature, non-monogamous animals. Especially given how complex human relationships are. It also seems like an unfortunate mindset to approach a situation with the idea that "well, someone is going to cheat here, so it might as well be me."

Which I'm sure is not what you mean but is certainly what could be interpreted. And nowhere did I say you were looking to use Gaf to fix anything. I am saying that discussing this on Gaf has a very low probability of changing anyone's mind on the matter. From the responses of everyone else, it doesn't appear they have changed their stance on the topic. But it is understandable that you're getting defensive and I want to make clear that I'm not being critical of your choices or feelings on the matter.

What does seem clear to me, and is echoed by most posters, is that you need to discuss this with your partner. Which you, yourself, have even mentioned.
 
Yeah, I think it's important not to interpret those statistics to show that humans have some urge to cheat that is totally ungovernable. We all have the ability to make choices.
 
It's official I'm no longer single. All my life people have been telling me to see a psychiatrist, funny how that works out.
 
Yeah, I think it's important not to interpret those statistics to show that humans have some urge to cheat that is totally ungovernable. We all have the ability to make choices.

Agreed. It's enough to seriously consider however. Choice is intimately ultimately yours but the majority are choosing to cheat.

I think that's enough ammo to perhaps consider how to deal in advance of it occurring.
 
It's official I'm no longer single. All my life people have been telling me to see a psychiatrist, funny how that works out.

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Congrats man :)
 
So he's going to cure you of all your bad habits and have sex with you? Interesting.

I tell him to stop analyzing me, but it's in his nature to. Sometimes he does it without realizing it. I'm interested in the field, so I do get some hands on experience. (that wasn't meant to sound sexual)
 
I tell him to stop analyzing me, but it's in his nature to. Sometimes he does it without realizing it. I'm interested in the field, so I do get some hands on experience. (that wasn't meant to sound sexual)

I don't think anyone took it as such but congrats on the boyfriend.
 
You're unaware what we consider cheating so your judgement is kinda unwarranted. We're far more secure with our sexuality and relationship I suppose. We've enjoyed a few three ways, and don't get bent out of shape by kissing, or horseplay. Over the years, and hey just last week we communicate about everything, unlike most couples too afraid to bridge anything uncomfortable, and end up closer for it.

Not everyone has the same rules. I didn't post this here because I'm afraid of repercussions. I posted it to share some things I'm learning about love, and polyamory that I thought might be interesting, or helpful.

Eh, having loose boundaries doesn't make you anymore secure with your sexuality (doesn't even make sense?) and relationship.

I guess if you have an open relationship (sounds like you do) then yeah it wouldn't be classed as cheating. I can't really wrap my head around being ok with my partner getting off with other guys though, but then different strokes for different folks I guess!
 
I can change him, i can try,

Ha, I'll be sure to let him know there are interested parties. ;)

And thanks for the kind words, Fernoca!

It's official I'm no longer single. All my life people have been telling me to see a psychiatrist, funny how that works out.

Congrats dude! How long have you been seeing each other?

I'm a month and a half in with my guy. I guess it's that hazy period where I'm unsure whether we're an item (even though it totally feels like we are) or whether we're still casually dating. We've grown really, really close.
 
Congrats dude! How long have you been seeing each other?

I'm a month and a half in with my guy. I guess it's that hazy period where I'm unsure whether we're an item (even though it totally feels like we are) or whether we're still casually dating. We've grown really, really close.

Going on week 2. He want's something serious though not sure if I can give that to him, but I will try.
 
Well, I am damn excited. A close friend, Andy, and I are all signed up for a Tough Mudder in May. I've done half marathons, and I love obstacle courses. If you don't know what it is, check it out because it is absolutely insane. I'm just excited to have something real to train for, rather than simply wanting to get bigger/stronger.
 
Well, I am damn excited. A close friend, Andy, and I are all signed up for a Tough Mudder in May. I've done half marathons, and I love obstacle courses. If you don't know what it is, check it out because it is absolutely insane. I'm just excited to have something real to train for, rather than simply wanting to get bigger/stronger.

All those shirtless muddy guys...Good god sign me up!
 
Well, I am damn excited. A close friend, Andy, and I are all signed up for a Tough Mudder in May. I've done half marathons, and I love obstacle courses. If you don't know what it is, check it out because it is absolutely insane. I'm just excited to have something real to train for, rather than simply wanting to get bigger/stronger.

Nice! A few of my roommates and a few friends from high school participated when Tough Mudder came around to Toronto last summer and said it was a blast.
 
Well, I am damn excited. A close friend, Andy, and I are all signed up for a Tough Mudder in May. I've done half marathons, and I love obstacle courses. If you don't know what it is, check it out because it is absolutely insane. I'm just excited to have something real to train for, rather than simply wanting to get bigger/stronger.
We did Warrior Dash earlier this year - kind of an easier Tough Mudder. Was great fun - but yeah, train hard. Even WD laughed at my level of fitness :P
 
We did Warrior Dash earlier this year - kind of an easier Tough Mudder. Was great fun - but yeah, train hard. Even WD laughed at my level of fitness :P

Oh, I plan on it. I'm going to continue lifting until March hits, then switch to the recommended Tough Mudder regimine. I think this also gives me a good time to start slimming back down from the bulking diet I'm on now and feel more comfortable in my skin.

Having been a chubby teen and then losing a bunch of weight, I get really nervous about any time I put on weight.
 
Who needs a boyfriend when you have GAF? What's wrong dearie?

I feel a little conflicted airing my personal problems online but here goes. Okay, first thing is I still live at home with my parents (yes, sad and pathetic I know but I don't want to get into that right now) and for the past year we haven't been able to pay the mortgage. The bank has already foreclosed and yesterday we found out that next month they'll auction our house off. So come next month, I may be homeless.
 
Week 2? Oh boy. I guess by that metric I'm definitely not single anymore...haha

He just got me a job in Medical Billing through a friend of his, start training on Saturday. He's truly an awesome man. Been unemployed since freaking July.
 
First relationship ended a few days ago. It was 3 and a half months. I'm not sad or bitter or angry. I only wished he could have tried.
 
I've been "single" for over three years now. I am getting used to it, and I am really expecting it to last quite a bit longer. =D

At least I get to look at some of the cute undergrads and not feel guilty.
 
I had the sexist Chemistry professor ever. That was in 2003 - 2004. He is still so hot. I still lust after him.

I had some decent looking TAs, too, especially for English 101.
 
I feel a little conflicted airing my personal problems online but here goes. Okay, first thing is I still live at home with my parents (yes, sad and pathetic I know but I don't want to get into that right now) and for the past year we haven't been able to pay the mortgage. The bank has already foreclosed and yesterday we found out that next month they'll auction our house off. So come next month, I may be homeless.

Sorry to read that, are your parents economically dependent of you or the other way around? I'm having family problems as well but I live far from them, I send money, but it has got to a point I can't send them anymore.

It's very complicated, hope everything goes well for you.
 
Sorry to read that, are your parents economically dependent of you or the other way around? I'm having family problems as well but I live far from them, I send money, but it has got to a point I can't send them anymore.

It's very complicated, hope everything goes well for you.

Other way round. Hence why I said I live with them and not they live with me (hope that doesn't come off snarky sounding). Sadly my life hasn't panned out the way I'd hoped.
 
GAF can be very therapeutic, this thread and the depression one. I don't think it could take place of a boyfriend but it is easier than discussing your problems with your irl friends.

Yeah I remember when I was feeling kind of down and decided to mentioned it was my birthday
NO ONE said happy birthday back
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Other way round. Hence why I said I live with them and not they live with me (hope that doesn't come off snarky sounding). Sadly my life hasn't panned out the way I'd hoped.

It happens, but if it doesn't work one way try another, it's hard but thats just how life is.
 
GAF is the only real boyfriend I need.
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I feel a little conflicted airing my personal problems online but here goes. Okay, first thing is I still live at home with my parents (yes, sad and pathetic I know but I don't want to get into that right now) and for the past year we haven't been able to pay the mortgage. The bank has already foreclosed and yesterday we found out that next month they'll auction our house off. So come next month, I may be homeless.
Hope you and your folks find a way through that. Keep us posted.
 
I feel a little conflicted airing my personal problems online but here goes. Okay, first thing is I still live at home with my parents (yes, sad and pathetic I know but I don't want to get into that right now) and for the past year we haven't been able to pay the mortgage. The bank has already foreclosed and yesterday we found out that next month they'll auction our house off. So come next month, I may be homeless.

Aw, I'm sorry to hear that dear. I have a sort of shitty life situation too, though I've never had to face losing my home like that. I hope everything works out for you. We're here if you need to talk.
 
I've been "single" for over three years now. I am getting used to it, and I am really expecting it to last quite a bit longer. =D

At least I get to look at some of the cute undergrads and not feel guilty.

Three years? Mine reset and im at a year now. I expect it to hit three as well.
 
I feel a little conflicted airing my personal problems online but here goes. Okay, first thing is I still live at home with my parents (yes, sad and pathetic I know but I don't want to get into that right now) and for the past year we haven't been able to pay the mortgage. The bank has already foreclosed and yesterday we found out that next month they'll auction our house off. So come next month, I may be homeless.

Good luck! *hugs* I'm sure you guys will work something out so that you won't be homeless.

First relationship ended a few days ago. It was 3 and a half months. I'm not sad or bitter or angry. I only wished he could have tried.

sorry to hear that! You'll be snapped up in no time.
 
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