I'm always surprised how quickly you go through story and dialogues.
One of us... one of us....
And I actually read it all too. I don't wait for the VAs to finish their lines usually though, unless it sounds like they might be funny or interesting to listen to. I like Idiya quite a bit for an NPC. Actually all the characters have a lot more personality so far in this story than usual cardboard cutout stuff. Still trying to make Kokomi look smart kinda backfires on them though.
It's just showcasing the new selection menu and stuff. The leakers don't have the new client, just the files running on the old client from the Project Amber/Grasscutter Online private server setup. Basically they can't emulate QoL features until it's released. At least that better be the reason. That loading bar sucks.
Welcome to the game and the thread, glad you're having a great time with it. You'll probably hear a majority of grumbling in here from time to time, but the fact that we've stuck with it for 3+ years is a testament to its quality, despite the shit we give it. You're in the best part of the game though, you have literally hundreds of hours of content to get through. Be careful of overspending because the genre of gacha games is built around exposing your weakness to make you pay for stuff, but it's perfectly enjoyable totally for free (or for 5 bucks in your case).
Pejo
Fuz
Sounds like a good plan. I used to play FFBE too, so you've seen the truly ugly side of gacha already.
I have some experience with other gacha games. Played Brave Exvius for nearly 2 years and then played DFOO pretty seriously for 2 years. Didn’t spend hardly anything except for the occasional 99¢ deal or some really good offers. Very rarely in DFOO and just planned pulls and saved, with the pity I was able to get everyone I wanted and was able to keep up with end game stuff like Entropy and Dimensions End dungeons. Not sure if I’ll play Genshin to that level, but I am really enjoying my time so far. Once I get caught up with the story I’ll reassess my goals and go from there.
They all can more or less be used if you really want to force them, but yea some characters are superior in exploration. Kazuha, Yelan, Kirara, Wanderer are exploration-core, unfortunately all limited characters other than Kirara who is 4*. Starting next patch we are getting a free 4* character that is like budget Yelan though, which is cool. I'm one of the people that picks characters that i like first for teams, then figure out how to make them work, but there are hundreds of resources out there for team builds if you're looking to run meta. I don't think anybody in this thread follows meta very closely though. The good content simply isn't difficult enough for it to matter, and the hardest content just insn't that fun, to me at least.
As you rank up your Adventurer Rank (AR) and World Level (WL), all farmable resources will naturally start to give more resources, so don't worry about any resource stuff until after AR45, as you heard about artifacts. If you need Mora, farm Mora leylines, if you need xp, farm xp leylines, etc. In the grand scheme, you are super early and you'll get those resources back super quickly from events + playing the game, so no sense min/maxing that stuff or stressing about it. It's worth mentioning though that Resin - the "stamina" of this game is used for all farmable content from domains/leylines, and any activity that uses Resin will also give you AR xp. So if you're a few xp short of an AR level and you want to push it, just do a leyline or domain or something.
You actually don't have to do any manual conversion to wishes unless you like looking at the numbers. When you go to pull on a banner, it will auto convert the primogems into the appropriate wish type on the banner you're pulling from. There is no 10+1 type situation, but every 10 rolls (whether single or multi) will award you with at least a purple weapon/character, depending on the banner. For Pity, soft pity starts at 70, and hard pity is 90. Usually on average you'll get your 5* character or weapon at 75~ish pulls. Only a few of us have been so unlucky as to go all the way to 90 pulls. There is also a 50/50 mechanic at play. So if you roll on a limited banner, but get an off-banner 5* character, your next 5* will guarantee the banner character. So you can't lose twice in a row in other words.
It's worth noting that you get small bonuses for having 2+ of the same element characters in your party. Stuff like Electro = free extra energy charge, Pyro = free extra 25% attack, etc. All of your methods of teambuilding you mentioned above are valid. I personally like teams with a hypercarry damage character and 3 characters enabling them, but quick swap reaction focused parties are fun too, and great for harder content.
Kokomi might be coming the next banner rotation, and she's one of the best healers, fyi.
I have some experience with other gacha games. Played Brave Exvius for nearly 2 years and then played DFOO pretty seriously for 2 years. Didn’t spend hardly anything except for the occasional 99¢ deal or some really good offers. Very rarely in DFOO and just planned pulls and saved, with the pity I was able to get everyone I wanted and was able to keep up with end game stuff like Entropy and Dimensions End dungeons. Not sure if I’ll play Genshin to that level, but I am really enjoying my time so far. Once I get caught up with the story I’ll reassess my goals and go from there.
Ya I’ve noticed with characters like Amber she’s necessary for stuff like that snowy Dragon mountain and general map exploring. It’s actually interesting to me because it creates this extra layer, there are good battle characters and good exploration characters. Like my map party has amber and a claymore user lol. Do wish it didn’t take so long to switch parties , but it’s a minor gripe.
Good tip on 70+ I was wondering how much I should invest in all these extra characters.
Im almost Adventure Level 30 and have already run out of Mora once because I was going a little crazy, but that was part of the learning process. I have a better understanding now, like which weapons work with which characters, artifacts, ect. And I read somewhere to not bother with artifact dungeons until at least AL45?
I also did do some reading on wishes. Been converting all my priogems into pink wishes. The blues ones I just spend every 10. Does this games not have like a 10+1 for saving up? Or is there a rate increase behind the scenes for doing a multi pull? Also what’s the pity system in this game, I keep hearing 70, but sometimes 90? Does it end with each banner or follow you to the next event banner?
On damage, I saw very quickly that element reactions were the way to go. The damage without them is fairly low lol. Still working out how exactly to set up a party, 4 “good” characters that each have elements that work together, or 2 pairs that complement each other, or finally just 1 “main” character who attacks and 3 other that support with various buffs and elements? Not sure what’s most effective atm, and things keep changing as I’m getting new characters and unlocking more stuff all the time.
Oh yes, boarding for sure. I’m actually going to dump everything I have for Eula before the banner ends, hope I can get her. Made the mistake of doing a few pulls on the Kazuya (spelled?) banner and got stuck with 2 copies of the little yellow loli girl, so I decided to not spend anything else on that banner.
Pejo
Oh a fellow DFFOO player! Been playing it since day 1 every day. Best Final Fantasy since X. Don't mistake this game for DFFOO though. DFFOO is extremely generous, while Genshin is definitely not. Mihoyo is miserable with the resources. Don't be fooled with the initial abundance of resources, it's just smoke and mirrors.
I have some experience with other gacha games. Played Brave Exvius for nearly 2 years and then played DFOO pretty seriously for 2 years. Didn’t spend hardly anything except for the occasional 99¢ deal or some really good offers. Very rarely in DFOO and just planned pulls and saved, with the pity I was able to get everyone I wanted and was able to keep up with end game stuff like Entropy and Dimensions End dungeons. Not sure if I’ll play Genshin to that level, but I am really enjoying my time so far. Once I get caught up with the story I’ll reassess my goals and go from there.
Ya I’ve noticed with characters like Amber she’s necessary for stuff like that snowy Dragon mountain and general map exploring. It’s actually interesting to me because it creates this extra layer, there are good battle characters and good exploration characters. Like my map party has amber and a claymore user lol. Do wish it didn’t take so long to switch parties , but it’s a minor gripe.
Good tip on 70+ I was wondering how much I should invest in all these extra characters.
Im almost Adventure Level 30 and have already run out of Mora once because I was going a little crazy, but that was part of the learning process. I have a better understanding now, like which weapons work with which characters, artifacts, ect. And I read somewhere to not bother with artifact dungeons until at least AL45?
I also did do some reading on wishes. Been converting all my priogems into pink wishes. The blues ones I just spend every 10. Does this games not have like a 10+1 for saving up? Or is there a rate increase behind the scenes for doing a multi pull? Also what’s the pity system in this game, I keep hearing 70, but sometimes 90? Does it end with each banner or follow you to the next event banner?
On damage, I saw very quickly that element reactions were the way to go. The damage without them is fairly low lol. Still working out how exactly to set up a party, 4 “good” characters that each have elements that work together, or 2 pairs that complement each other, or finally just 1 “main” character who attacks and 3 other that support with various buffs and elements? Not sure what’s most effective atm, and things keep changing as I’m getting new characters and unlocking more stuff all the time.
Oh yes, boarding for sure. I’m actually going to dump everything I have for Eula before the banner ends, hope I can get her. Made the mistake of doing a few pulls on the Kazuya (spelled?) banner and got stuck with 2 copies of the little yellow loli girl, so I decided to not spend anything else on that banner.
Icymanipulator
Now that I'm back at my PC I can give a bit more of my two cents. Disclaimer: other veterans might not agree.
Still great, they released some really cool characters (I absolutely love Quina and Rubicante gameplay) but I absolutely hate the new difficulty tier due to the new weapon (FR) mechanics, which is - oversemplifying here - a bonus damage for 10 turns that ramps up. The result is that outside that 10 turn window you do like 1% damage or less, making it an insane slog and a planning nightmare. Most of the community hates it.
If you're not a spender, agreed. The banner itself sucks ass and they've been making each weapon more and more niche to only work well with a single character, which sucks.
- DO NOT pull for the weapon banner, ever. It's a huge scam.
Character level increases a few "hidden" damage mechanics, most notably elemental reaction damage. I disagree on not building your characters to 90, especially if you already limit broke them. But
Fuz
is a notorious hoarder, and the amount of resources you spend increases a LOT between 80-90.Good advice. I eventually get everyone to 9/9/9 for their talents just for completionist's sake. There are limited-time, limited-quantity items from events called crowns that will let you fully max out a character's talents. One crown per talent, and brings them up to a maximum of 10/10/10 or 10/13/13 if you have max constellations of them (think duplicates). It's a good way to cap off your strongest or favorite characters.
yep
yep
Fuz
is still the only person in the thread stuck on World Level 6. I do agree that the last few world levels do have a more sizable jump in enemy stats than the first few, but once you have your characters sufficiently built out, there is zero harm to raising that final level. I think I was about a few months behind the curve for raising mine to the max, but it's been incredibly easy once I was prepared with enough characters maxed out. And unlike when he said "but there's no going back", you actually can go back and lower your world level by 1 at any time. So if you get too ahead of yourself and advance only to find out that your characters are too weak, you can go into the menu and reverse it back 1 level.
Yeah... just 1 level though.
traveler.gg
You mean this?
Ya that one !You mean this?
Here's another tip: don't waste any resources on 3★ weapons. Very few and specific exceptions.
4★ are fine.
I still have to google names for proper spelling so no biggie.
Yeah, he has very long, completely unnoticeable hair.
Eh, waste of resource without any real benefit. But you can still feed them to the better artifacts later on, so no big deal in the end.
But the bootlickers will say "you have the traveler already, and Lynette is free in 4.0, so you've got your bases covered!"
It's not just some easily ignored twinks in 4.0, but something that will remain an issue throughout Fontaine and perhaps beyond. It limits your team building, forces you to use new and rare weapons, introduces even more strategic wishing to cover all bases. They can and will abuse this mechanic to boost certain characters that wouldn't sell otherwise and folks will struggle to build well-rounded teams.
I hope it's just cosmetic and it won't work as you predict.So here's how they make you pull for their new terrible femboy characters and their weapons:
I bet you 10 bucks that there are enemies that can only be damaged by either Ousia or Pneuma type damage, or that have a shield that can only be broken by that type of damage.
Fucking shysters.
I really hope this prediction is wrong. My interest in this game is wavering with every Fontaine leak, introducing something like this would probably be the finishing blow.So here's how they make you pull for their new terrible femboy characters and their weapons:
I bet you 10 bucks that there are enemies that can only be damaged by either Ousia or Pneuma type damage, or that have a shield that can only be broken by that type of damage.
Fucking shysters.
Well at least it sounds like you can use the characters OR the weapons. I wonder if it's just like "hit them once to stun" or if you have to do accumulated damage. If it's the first one, it's annoying but not THAT bad, since you can just throw one of the crafted weapons on a support and tap them before switching out.
I don't wanna do either.
Dream on, I was already fighting the whiteknights on reddit. I might get a ban on my troll account, lol.
I think you can choose to apply one element or the other to the weapons, indicated by the visual effect. I don't know if you can freely swap the element or if it's permanent or whatever on the weapons once you apply it though.I don't wanna do either.
Besides, I thought I understood (from the leaks subreddit) that for the weapon is just a visual effect. Not sure, I might have misunderstood.
I dunno if it's because Twitter is shitting the bed, but reddit feels even more insufferable than usual lately.
Again, I might have completely misunderstood, but I thought the character alignment is what gives the light/dark visual effect. I could be 100% wrong on this.
