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Geoff Keighley: Scorpio rumored to cost $499 (he's right, flawless victory)
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When you're speaking in front of literally millions of people you need to practice EVERYTHING like crazy so that everything is on auto-pilot to lower the chance that you'll choke.
dripdripsplash
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Oh my gooooooooooooooood
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
The average consumer makes decisions based on their own personal cost-benefit analysis. What you're describing is far from average, you are describing the enthusiast consumer that wants the best item on the market regardless of cost.
Lord Frieza
Member
My guess is they know the price isn't going to be popular, so they're getting it out of the way to offset some of the heat from the conference.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
To take the disappointment edge off the actual announcement.
Dr_LucienSanchez
Banned
I'm so amazed that some people actually think that this is how massive corporations make decisions in 2017.
I'll be buying a pro eventually, but I completely agree with this. No buy for me until the price drops and there is a bundle.
I just think $500 is a little intimidating even though it's a fine deal overall when you break down what you're getting. It's a chunk of change.
Pattycakes
Banned
the denial is strong
plasmawave
Banned
What if it's a fake rehearsal?
Paquete_PT
Member
I can only see this being a right price if they say this is truly a next gen for them. If not, it may be a little too much and it will be an even more niche product than I thought, and if that is the case, I don't expect the talk about Scorpio to last.
That being said, I'm really excited for today's conference and I think they will bring some amazing displays of visuals.
That being said, I'm really excited for today's conference and I think they will bring some amazing displays of visuals.
Backfoggen
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Did you see how they'll sell that price? I just can't imagine how they'd think Phil Spencer going on stage and saying 499 again would be a good idea.
Corleth the Fey
Member
Well I like Mr Keighley, but I can't believe that Microsoft would make such an error to price at 500 dollars - so until they actually say it - I'm still saying 400.
we really have to see games head to head. Whatever the pro is in terms of an upgrade games don't exactly look bad on it. Horizon is breathtaking.
Scorpio has to show $100 improvement. Sure it's more powerful but that power has to manifest itself into a night and day difference, and not one that DF has to point out.
Pro doubles the resolution of some PS4 games and many people don't immediately see the difference.
Because last years show was completely leaked because of the rehearsal. Switching out a number to prevent this leak is nothing special. But of course it could also just be 499.
GHG
Member
If you have any idea how the approval process works at some of these huge companies...
Whatever the price is, it will have been decided upon a while ago.
MercuryLS3
Junior Member
This thing is considerably more powerful than the PS4 pro, what made you guys think it was going to be $400? I always assumed this would be $500.
Good luck to them at that price, going to be a tough sell. The price disparity between the One S and this thing is too big, Sony got it right with the ~$100 gap.
Good luck to them at that price, going to be a tough sell. The price disparity between the One S and this thing is too big, Sony got it right with the ~$100 gap.
RowdyReverb
Member
So, $500 Scorpio for high end market and $250 XB1S for budget market. I think it's priced too high, but I get the logic. When they phase out the XB1S, they should be able to price this more competitively
I'm enjoying the hell out of this thread. People invested way too much in the Scorpio = return of Xbox brand dominance narrative.
MiloHoffman
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2 games already leaked today.
dead souls
Member
It made me chuckle too. The delusion in it is really staggering.
ElMexiMerican
Member
Why would they if it's been clear for a while that most people found 499 too high? They don't need reactions on a leak for that.
Well you see, someone put in the numbers from the teaser in Google and found an old magazine with a robot that cost 400 bucks. After that it was obvious that scorpio would be 399... 🙃
killatopak
Member
Definitely not gonna buy this.
$500 on NA will cost me $600 in my country. Fuck that.
$500 on NA will cost me $600 in my country. Fuck that.
Nightmare452
Member
I'm sorry but if a $100 difference on a 400-500 piece of tech is the difference from insta-buy to not buying it, there are issues with your entire rational for the system.
$499 seems​ fine, as it seems​ to be a very buff system with great specs. The ultimate issue on buying is not the $499 price, it's what that offer you other than increased resolution. It 100% depends on the support developers add for a Scorpio buff, not the $499 tag. The $399/499 is a none issue really.
yukianderson
Member
He wouldn't say it in his twitter unless he was sure that was the price. He's always been close with MS. I think MS wanted you place the price in your mind before the conference by the time the 500 dollar price is announce you will be exited for it and not be shocked like now. Still 500 is a hard sell. DOA with a ps4 slim and XboxOne S at 199 come Christmas. No wonder they didn't think scorpio would see that much.
metalslimer
Member
Lol the average consumer no longer cares what console is more powerful as an end all be all at this point in the gen. Most of their friends have PS4 and some of them have Xbox. Depending on who they want to play online combined with price will determine what system they buy.
mohsinkhan
Member
As long as it has the games I don't mind paying.... we really don't have a bench mark, it is more powerful then he pro so not sure why people are flipping out!
I can already see it:
In your interview with Phill, you will ask him "how come the price is 399$ if I know for a fact it was 499 in the rehearsal"
Phill with a smug face: "HOOK LINE AND SINKER MUHAHA", "Oh and thanks for playing along".
But probably not because of the rehearsal.
Officerrob
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That's not how it works
Hawk269
Member
No shit...but why rehearse that part which is probably the biggest news to come out will be the price. Why would you need to rehearse saying "$499.99"? I get rehearsing all the other parts of the show, but for this particular portion, they really don't.
Dash_Riprock
Member
The really funny (sad) thing is that for almost a year now MS has been preparing their fans to accept the high price. Constantly mentioning words and phrases like "premium" "enthusiast" "for the fans" clearly shows they were aiming for this price point.
And yet we STILL have people here that apparently plugged their fingers into their ears and believed that this will be some magical $349 mega console sold at a loss that will put Xbox on the top sales and get back all the exclusives again.
And yet we STILL have people here that apparently plugged their fingers into their ears and believed that this will be some magical $349 mega console sold at a loss that will put Xbox on the top sales and get back all the exclusives again.
CrimsonGun
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I should have added more words to that post to avoid getting snarky remarks. What I meant to say is the average consumer will ask the store employee what console to get for his or her child. The employee will most likely mention Scorpio as the new console and that it is the most powerful console. Now will that lead to a lot of pure sales? Maybe, probably not. But to assume consumers care about first or second place is dumb.
SocksAndShoes
Banned
I thought there was a slight chance they go bonkers and try to undercut Sony. Looks like there's no way that happens. $499 + what we know of their 1st party output? Hmmm.
It's a very tough sell for me at 399, they'd have to show a significant amount of exclusive games in a roadmap that covers the next few years. At 499 it's just... pretty much impossible to convince me.
Again, it seems like Microsoft has been really wanting us to believe it's 499. I'm sure they would like to shock people with the price. I don't doubt Geoff one bit, I'm 100% certain he's telling the truth, but if he's heard it from MS people and at rehearsals, I would not be surprised if it's wrong on purpose. Didn't the whole MS conference leak due to rehearsals last year? They know it's not safe to do that.
Again, it seems like Microsoft has been really wanting us to believe it's 499. I'm sure they would like to shock people with the price. I don't doubt Geoff one bit, I'm 100% certain he's telling the truth, but if he's heard it from MS people and at rehearsals, I would not be surprised if it's wrong on purpose. Didn't the whole MS conference leak due to rehearsals last year? They know it's not safe to do that.
Patrick S.
Banned
Clara hacked his twitter account!
anothertech
Member
You're a good guy Geoff. Should help the trauma that's about to happen at the end of their conference.
We needed this tbh. After that whole 'robot costs less than 400' debacle on google a couple days ago.
None the less, popcorn and salt shakers incoming. This gun be good.