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Get your SSDs ready, PS4 Pro supports SATA3
- Thread starter MagicWithEarvin
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dottme
Member
On PS4, physical game are copied on the HDD. So it will apply.
Every disc ps4 game is install to the hard drive , so you will see a difference.
Not sure how the Xbox formats external drives. It's possible you could just hook it up to a PC and copy the contents off, and then copy it back onto the new drive. Easiest way to find out is to just connect it to a PC and see if you can browse it. If it comes up with messages along the lines of needing to initialise the drive then don't do that and disconnect the drive (if you do this then it will wipe out the existing partition table and you'll lose access to the data currently on it).
Coolsambob
Member
Awesome, shall try that after work tomorrow. If it all works out well, I'll have left my Pro in the box since launch day for no reason. So not sure which outcome I'm rooting for here, haha.
boredandlazy
Member
Very happy with my 2TB Evo 850 right now. 
Very happy with my 2TB Evo 850 right now.
Me too. I'll be using it in PS5 as well in a few years.
Harmondale
Member
Anyone know how much faster the loading Times are in skyrim while using a ssd? Eager to see some comparisons
demigod
Member
I have no idea how people are having such a hard time with the screws, was so easy for me. I have the right size phillips. Not too small, not too big. And yeah I almost fell into Sony's trap too, had to look at both files I downloaded and of course picked the bigger file size.
I did the same thing, mine is Seagate. Honestly I don't think the 2tb Firecuda is worth upgrading to unless you need a bigger drive. I did some testing with my 1tb sshd and at best load times were maybe a few secs faster. Starting a new game of The Last of Us, I had the stock HDD beating my sshd.
DOWN
Banned
Screws can be different tightness man
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It's not a bad idea to do so.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Question:
I am thinking about buying a 3.5 SSHD that will sit outside the drive bay.
It will most certainly look ugly, but I know I can get better performance than what the 2.5 SSHD provides.
Now my question is:
What is the best way to do it?
I am thinking about buying a 3.5 SSHD that will sit outside the drive bay.
It will most certainly look ugly, but I know I can get better performance than what the 2.5 SSHD provides.
Now my question is:
What is the best way to do it?
Impulsor
Member
Crazymoogle
Member
Well, in theory you can just buy a SATA > ESATA cable like this one (CA link, just as an example). The SATA end has the power and sata plug, and then it all outputs through the ESATA end, which you can connect to an external hard drive that supports it. The trick is that you might need an external that also has its own power supply because Nyko has shown that the 2.5" power feed is not enough for a 3.5" drive. (The Nyko powerbank uses a passthrough loop with the PS4's main power cable) You'll also need needlenose pliers to connect the cable to the SATA port as the drive bay is undoubtedly too narrow for most hands.
I guess you could try without the power feed and see what happens. It will either not turn on, work fine, or shut down whenever there's too much power draw. Hard to say.
If you want to go really ghetto, you could even just buy a docking station like this which provides the ESATA and power. Downside is there's absolutely no protection for your hard drive.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Hopefully you get mine that I'm returning unopened today. Finally decided to go SSD.
SparksterMeta0
Member
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Yeah 8GB of flash memory is pretty anemic. They definitely cheaped out.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Do it!! You can buy one from Jet.com for $139.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Thanks. This is what I was looking for.
Most docking stations convert SATA to USB3.0 and I needed one that allowed for SATA to passthrough.
QuantumZebra
Member
Is the Firecuda faster than Seagate's SSHD?
Firecuda is Seagate's SSHD.
QuantumZebra
Member
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
850 EVO should be fine out of the box, the earlier 840 EVO had an issue with slow access to old data and it took many months for a lasting firmware update fix.
Parmadillo Marshmallow
Member
Has anyone tried the Momentus? I have one in my OG PS4 and it is great. Really fast load times. I'm almost always the first player to load into maps in multiplayer games. Haven't done any hard testing though.
Only goes up to 750GB, but it's a rare 7200rpm SSHD and it's pretty cheap too.
I'm considering transferring it to my Pro.
Only goes up to 750GB, but it's a rare 7200rpm SSHD and it's pretty cheap too.
I'm considering transferring it to my Pro.
Thanks a bunch!
Vindicator
Member
Ok, with my SSD turning up soon I have decided to carry out some tests...let me know if I'm missing any comparisons;
Please keep in mind each test will require a migration of data and to complete this I will need to to 4 migrations so will take some time!
Thx, my Firecuda probably still won't have arrived when you're done.
Killing_Joke
Member
Anyone been using the 2TB Barracuda?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LX13P71/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Literally just bought it before Firecuda stock arrived. On paper i know Firecuda is better but if the difference is minimal then i won't care to switch it out.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LX13P71/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Literally just bought it before Firecuda stock arrived. On paper i know Firecuda is better but if the difference is minimal then i won't care to switch it out.
Crazymoogle
Member
Firecuda is back on Amazon.ca.
The advantage with using the Firecuda depends on what you're doing and the game you're playing.
First time install: minimal/zero s
First time loading an area: anywhere from 1.5s to 10s depending on game
Reloading an area (say, you died): Substantial benefit
As an example, loading a Quick Save in Dishonored 2 is what, 4-5 seconds? Sometimes less.
The savings add up over time (if you have a dozen loads during a play session, or you die/reload frequently, you're just going to have a faster experience overall) but it's not like a magic 2 second load across the board.
This is why timing out the loads is a tricky business, because to get a good picture of the benefit you would probably want to try ~10 games, and then load/reload in at least 5 areas of each. Some games, structurally, are just going to handle it differently, so you might see a big difference between, say, Fallout 4 (Open World) and Uncharted 4 (Restricted Region).
Killing_Joke said:
The advantage with using the Firecuda depends on what you're doing and the game you're playing.
First time install: minimal/zero s
First time loading an area: anywhere from 1.5s to 10s depending on game
Reloading an area (say, you died): Substantial benefit
As an example, loading a Quick Save in Dishonored 2 is what, 4-5 seconds? Sometimes less.
The savings add up over time (if you have a dozen loads during a play session, or you die/reload frequently, you're just going to have a faster experience overall) but it's not like a magic 2 second load across the board.
This is why timing out the loads is a tricky business, because to get a good picture of the benefit you would probably want to try ~10 games, and then load/reload in at least 5 areas of each. Some games, structurally, are just going to handle it differently, so you might see a big difference between, say, Fallout 4 (Open World) and Uncharted 4 (Restricted Region).
That's a very good point. The time saving over a 2-3 hour play session on one game is a more useful metric than a series of strict benchmarks.
I've gone for the Firecuda because I filled up my 1TB already and 2TB SSDs are too dear for me right now. Amazon were selling it for £140 but it's down to £110 now (out of stock however). I have a spare enclosure somewhere so my Xbox One will gain a TB of storage out of this too.
I've been playing through the Modern Warfare Remaster and dying a lot (I always do in these games) and although I can't give you any figures to support this, restarting after dying is so quick to do. Because it uses a checkpoint system it's just reloading the same information so it's an ideal situation for an SSHD.
Obviously it doesn't offer the same benefits of using an SSD but the benefits I'm seeing are easily worth the cost of the SSHD for me. I did consider buying a full SSD but I would want at least 1GB of space after it was up and running with the OS on it and the benefits that it would offer just weren't worth the additional costs involved so the FireCuda was the ideal middle ground for me.
Killing_Joke
Member
Thanks guys. I'll play with the Barricuda for a bit since it'll be here tomorrow. If i notice a dip from my 1TB SSHD I'll change it out.
Impulsor
Member
FFXV for eample has 60 seconds load tiems with standard HDD versus 17 with SSD.
For example.
I put a 1tb SSD in my ps4 pro and I instantly noticed the better loading times in Rise of the Tomb Raider.
Watch_dogs 2 I haven't comparedbut it loads really fast.
demigod
Member
Isn't that OG PS4 vs Pro though? We need Pro vs Pro for a fair comparison.
AlexFlame116
Member
Can someone please help me know if this is a 2.5 or a 3.5? When I ordered it from Amazon it said 2.5 but the cardboard box says 3.5.
Sorry I'm still kinda new to all this.
Sorry I'm still kinda new to all this.
michaelius
Banned
Looks like 2,5" to me - 3,5" would be twice the height compared to size of connectors.
ST2000LM015 is 2.5"
demigod
Member
Did you just pay $100 for that? Were you looking for speed or just more storage? For $15 more you could've gotten the SSHD, well its out of stock now but they're receiving more on the 18th.
zeorhymer
Member
From my personal and anecdotal evidence. Re-installed Bloodborn and holy shit, was the load time cut. Crazymoogle described it right. Install is the same since it's downloading the patches and whatnot. The first time, you go into an area would take a bit of time since it's caching the data first. But if you're going back to the same area either from loading a save or just double backing, it loads it up amazingly.
Kilau
Gold Member
There shouldn't be any reason for it not to. It's the same physical size as an Evo.
zeorhymer
Member
Model
Brand : SanDisk
Series : Ultra II
Model :SDSSDHII-960G-G25
Device Type : Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Details
Form Factor : 2.5"
Capacity :960GB
Interface : SATA III
Magic 8 ball says "Yes"