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[AuthenticM]

The cinematography looks sick.

 

[Morat]

The track which brought me into Drum and Bass. No kidding. Saw that video at 0300 am on MTV and thought "WTF is this shit"...

Still glorious today. 2m:37s still gives me goosebumps...

Good call

 

[Jotaka]

At this point, Got is much more Oshii's baby then it is Shiro

This show how little you give credit the author of the series.


Anyone fan knows that GiTS SAC and 2nd GIG are that make GiTS amazing. And both are not direct by Mamoru Oshii

 

[vio]

This show how little you give credit the author of the series.


Anyone fan knows that GiTS SAC and 2nd GIG are that make GiTS amazing. And both are not direct by Mamoru Oshii

I like the movies but SAC and 2dn GIG are indeed amazing.

 

[Moonlight]

Anyone fan knows that GiTS SAC and 2nd GIG are that make GiTS amazing. And both are not direct by Mamoru Oshii

uh, no, not really

also SAC owes far more to oshii than shirou masamune, who had precisely as much to do with that show as he did the movies (aka, nothing really)

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

No, you wouldn't be getting a White Black Panther if no one ever said anything. LOL Quit making false equivalencies and hyperbole.

I agree it's important to call attention to it, and that GITS isn't a good example of fighting the battle on.

It's just calling attention alone isn't going to change anything really. There has to be more done from minority writers and directors to be socially conscious on their casting and providing a platform for actors to move on to bigger projects.

My mistake, we wouldn't be getting a Black Panther movie at all if that were the case.

And I am saying it IS a a good spot to be fighting this battle on. If not this then the next movie that's supposed to have asian leads in however many years? This is a high profile asian property being brought to the big screen here. If there were ever a place to be highlighting this issue, this movie seems like a fitting place. Calling attention alone doesn't help, but that doesn't mean it doesn't help period.

 

[jett]

Rinko Kikuchi is awful.

And I don't think people understand this movie wouldn't even have been greenlit without the involvement of an actress with ScarJo's popularity.

 

[lightskintwin]

My mistake, we wouldn't be getting a Black Panther movie at all if that were the case.

LOL, Ok, that's closer to the truth.

And I am saying it IS a a good spot to be fighting this battle on. If not this then the next movie that's supposed to have Asian leads in however many years? This is a high profile Asian property being brought to the big screen here. If there were ever a place to be highlighting this issue, this movie seems like a fitting place. Calling attention alone doesn't help, but that doesn't mean it doesn't help period.

I don't think adapting Japanese licensed anime/manga automatically means the leads have to be Asian. You're going to end up in the same argument loop about there not being Asian American stars to lead a big budget mainstream American film. It has to start in America and be built from the ground up here in order to increase the number of platforms Asian Americans can be featured on and hopefully become stars.

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

I don't think adapting Japanese licensed anime/manga automatically means the leads have to be Asian. You're going to end up in the same argument loop about there not being Asian American stars to lead a big budget mainstream American film. It has to start in America and be built from the ground up here in order to increase the number of platforms Asian Americans can be featured on and hopefully become stars.

I don't think a GitS adaptation automatically needs Asian leads either. I would also say you don't need a white lead either. But its simply because all leading stars are white, therefore etc. Edge of Tomorrow was a great movie based on a manga. I'm simply saying that there is a huge elephant in the room surrounding this more well known Asian property and its adaptation and people are totally justified in saying "hey there's a huge elephant here." It's a fitting enough stage to spotlight the issue.

 

[lightskintwin]

I don't think a GitS adaptation automatically needs Asian leads either. I would also say you don't need a white lead either. But its simply because all leading stars are white, therefore etc. Edge of Tomorrow was a great movie based on a manga. I'm simply saying that there is a huge elephant in the room surrounding this more well known Asian property and its adaptation and people are totally justified in saying "hey there's a huge elephant here." It's a fitting enough stage to spotlight the issue.

But you can't change anything unless creators become socially conscious about it and actively fight against the status quo. The first in the fight would be Asian/ Asian American/ Asian Western production companies, writers, directors; however if they don't see an issue and maintain the status quo, why would Hollywood deem it necessary to change?

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

I hope they use this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z64HCi2rQkE as the main theme though.

In all seriousness, GITS is one of those few pieces of science fiction that transcends its genre. I hope the film channels its weirdness.

Well... While Clint Mansell is working on the soundtrack, he's very keen to respect source material, or pay homage.

This was performed a few months ago...

https://youtu.be/aXGPERcDvio

 

[Herr Schwarz]

Rinko Kikuchi is awful.

And I don't think people understand this movie wouldn't even have been greenlit without the involvement of an actress with ScarJo's popularity.

Yeah right, cos there isn't currently a trend of rebooting a whole bunch of shit to see what sticks to the wall.

Coming soon, Akira. inb4 should be grateful.

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

But you can't change anything unless creators become socially conscious about it and actively fight against the status quo. The first in the fight would be Asian/ Asian American/ Asian Western production companies, writers, directors; however if they don't see an issue and maintain the status quo, why would Hollywood deem it necessary to change?

And how do you tell them it's an issue if no one says anything? This is what Ming Na Wen said on a panel when the topic of GitS came up.

"Whitewashing will continue if Hollywood thinks it's OK," Wen added, noting examples from Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's to Emma Stone in Aloha. "The fight is exhausting: two steps forward, 10 steps back. But it will continue because we don't voice our opinions and band together to say this is wrong."

It happens in every thread like this, but it comes off as condescending when people come in and say, "you don't know how the industry works, whining isn't gonna change anything" when there are actual Asians in the industry like Ming Na Wen and Constance Wu calling out the same stuff we are. Yes, you start from the ground up. But you can't maintain the momentum for progress if people aren't vocal about demanding it.

 

[lightskintwin]

And how do you tell them it's an issue if no one says anything? This is what Ming Na Wen said on a panel when the topic of GitS came up.



It happens in every thread like this, but it comes off as condescending when people come in and say, "you don't know how the industry works, whining isn't gonna change anything" when there are actual Asians in the industry like Ming Na Wen and Constance Wu calling out the same stuff we are.

They are Actor's not creators. Do I really need to start listing Asian/Asian American/Asian Western production companies, writers, and directors that have either never or rarely cast Asian American/Westerns in lead roles yet alone in any role in their films despite their success? That's where change could immediately start and provide a platform for talented Asian American actors to get noticed and get an opportunity to be featured in a big-budget mainstream American film. Now I'm not saying they're obligated to do this, especially since they're successful doing what they're doing, but my point is the vast majority of them are following the status quo, why would Hollywood even care about featuring one in their films, and if they did, they might as well poach talent from other Asian countries where they're already international stars because those countries cultivated their talent and featured them.

Ghost in the Shell is not a good example of Whitewashing.

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

They are Actor's not creators. Do I really need to start listing Asian/Asian American/Asian Western production companies, writers, and directors that have either never or rarely cast Asian American/Westerns in lead roles yet alone in any role in their films despite their success? That's where change could immediately start and provide a platform for talented Asian American actors to get noticed and get an opportunity to be featured in a big-budget mainstream American film. Now I'm not saying they're obligated to do this, especially since they're successful doing what they're doing, but my point is the vast majority of them are following the status quo, why would Hollywood even care about featuring one in their films, and if they did, they might as well poach talent from other Asian countries where they're already international stars because those countries cultivated their talent and featured them.

Oh trust me I know. I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm not blaming any one studio in particular or any one movie. I'm arguing the movie's validity as a talking point for this issue and as a lightning rod to draw attention towards the industry as a whole. I'm not arguing for a recast. I don't think the change should happen with this movie. But it's a high profile blockbuster adaptation of a story with originally Asian characters. To not bring it up is to talk around the big elephant in the room.

 

[lightskintwin]

Oh trust me I know. I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm not blaming any one studio in particular or any one movie. I'm arguing the movie's validity as a talking point for this issue and as a lightning rod to draw attention towards the industry as a whole. I'm not arguing for a recast. I don't think the change should happen with this movie. But it's a high profile blockbuster adaptation of a story with originally Asian characters. To not bring it up is to talk around the big elephant in the room.

No doubt, the talking is necessary because it keeps the pressure on Hollywood's ass; but it's just that any actual change will be incredibly slow without anything else going on.

I don't know If you've seen this video I've posted before, but this guy gets it and I'm hopeful the younger generation of Asian Americans become more socially conscious and work together in order to make change happen much faster and perhaps create their own genre of films with Asian American narratives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG-fF40aZZM

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

No doubt, the talking is necessary because it keeps the pressure on Hollywood's ass; but it's just that any actual change will be incredibly slow without anything else going on.

I don't know If you've seen this video I've posted before, but this guy gets it and I'm hopeful the younger generation of Asian Americans become more socially conscious and work together in order to make change happen much faster and perhaps create their own genre of films with Asian American narratives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG-fF40aZZM

Yeah I have and I completely agree that we shouldn't rely on Hollywood changing anytime soon and that we should be doing stuff to showcase more talent out there. I don't think GitS is a good example of whitewashing. However I do think letting GitS pass without contention or without bringing up the subtle whitewashing would be unintentionally letting them think that we are okay with things the way they are.

 

[lightskintwin]

Yeah I have and I completely agree that we shouldn't rely on Hollywood changing anytime soon and that we should be doing stuff to showcase more talent out there. I don't think GitS is a good example of whitewashing. However I do think letting GitS pass without contention or without bringing up the subtle whitewashing would be unintentionally letting them think that we are okay with things the way they are.

I mean if GITS ends up being as successful as I think it will be, then it will usher in the anime/manga era in Hollywood and I fully expect these future adaptations to follow the same formula with a white actor as the lead, and perhaps an Asian actor as a side character for "diversity" sake and hush people up.

 

[Korey]

Ok, I agree with you, but my point is that's not how Hollywood operates, hence it defeating the purpose for Hollywood to adapt an anime/manga property if they were to cast somebody Asian as lead.

Everyone understands how Hollywood operates. That's what people are trying to change. What is even your point? Wtf

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

I mean if GITS ends up being as successful as I think it will be, then it will usher in the anime/manga era in Hollywood and I fully expect these future adaptations to follow the same formula with a white actor as the lead, and perhaps an Asian actor as a side character for "chinese pandering" sake and hush people up.

Fixed for you, but yeah most likely.

I just want there to be a discussion around it. If it were to succeed uncontested, I think that would be a big shame.

If it turns out Scarlett is playing Motoko in an caucasian robot body, I'm gonna riot though.

 

[lightskintwin]

Everyone understands how Hollywood operates. That's what people are trying to change. What is even your point? Wtf

Do you plan on joining the discussion that continued afterward between me and SuperStiltzkin? If not, What is even your point? Wtf

Fixed for you, but yeah most likely.

I just want there to be a discussion around it. If it were to succeed uncontested, I think that would be a big shame.

If it turns out Scarlett is playing Motoko in an caucasian robot body, I'm gonna riot though.

I think it succeeding contested is even worse because it would show how little people care.

Prepare to riot then. LOL

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Yeah right, cos there isn't currently a trend of rebooting a whole bunch of shit to see what sticks to the wall.

Coming soon, Akira. inb4 should be grateful.

They've been trying to "reboot" Akira for like a decade now, though.

Remaking things and adapting them from other media isn't really a trend either. It's more like a constant.

 

[SchrodingerC]

Official 1080p direct from Paramount Pictues YouTube channel

Still apprehensive about ScarJo as Motoko, but the movie looks pretty decent! Even if the movie is shit, the cinematography and setting are going to be interesting to watch.
Would be nice to have good cyberpunk movies again.

I like the addition of the making of a cyborg music too.

 

[Icolin]

Rinko Kikuchi is awful.

And I don't think people understand this movie wouldn't even have been greenlit without the involvement of an actress with ScarJo's popularity.

Have you seen Babel?

 

[jack_package_200]

Is this going to be rated R?

 

[ThePrequelsSuck]

"Ghost in the Shell: The New Movie" has to be one of the cheesiest and most overly-simplistic titles ever. Sounds like a kindergartener came up with it.

 

[Chumley]

Was this posted? New poster, fucking rad.

 

[Quote]

the super bowl teaser would be 100x better without the shitty narration.

 

[Octavianus]

This show how little you give credit the author of the series.


Anyone fan knows that GiTS SAC and 2nd GIG are that make GiTS amazing. And both are not direct by Mamoru Oshii

Not at all. The movies are some of my favourite movies of all time and I despise SAC and 2nd GIG. Litteraly everything from the art style, animations, voice acting and characterizations took a huge dive with those.

Even Arise is better than that shit show.

Rinko Kikuchi is awful.

And I don't think people understand this movie wouldn't even have been greenlit without the involvement of an actress with ScarJo's popularity.

This movie not getting greenlit would probably have been for the best though.

 

[Chumley]

This movie not getting greenlit would probably have been for the best though.

You haven't even seen it yet.

 

[Ratrat]

Rinko Kikuchi is awful.

And I don't think people understand this movie wouldn't even have been greenlit without the involvement of an actress with ScarJo's popularity.

Which one of these were lead by big name actors?
Dragon Ball Evolution, Speed Racer, The Last Airbender, Pacific Rim, John Carter, Tron Legacy... there are too many blockbusters with nobody actors to name them all.

 

[Octavianus]

You haven't even seen it yet.

But I've seen the trailers which so far all make it look like it's on par with the Resident Evil movies.

 

[kurahador]

But I've seen the trailers which so far all make it look like it's on par with the Resident Evil movies.

And as someone who have seen all Hollywood's Resident Evil movies, I can assure you they are trashier than GITS trailer.

 

[EGM1966]

Was this posted? New poster, fucking rad.

Lovely poster. Like the bold colour scheme.

 

[faridmon]

Love that poster. Perfect combination of Japanese flair with Hollywood sleekness.

Really looking forward to this movie.

 

[Jake.]

Perfect combination of Japanese flair with Hollywood sleekness.

uh...what?

 

[Salty Rice]

Was this posted? New poster, fucking rad.

Looks awesome. Would hang that on my wall.

 

[8BitsAtATime]

Have you seen Babel?

Kumiko, the Treasure Hunter or Map of The Sounds of Tokyo are her better films

 

[Quote]

But I've seen the trailers which so far all make it look like it's on par with the Resident Evil movies.

Uhhhhhhhhh

 

[faridmon]

uh...what?

Which part do you disagree with?

 

[Machina]

Was this posted? New poster, fucking rad.

I know it's not him but the guy on the left looks like Kiefer Sutherland

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Which one of these were lead by big name actors?
Dragon Ball Evolution, Speed Racer, The Last Airbender, Pacific Rim, John Carter, Tron Legacy... there are too many blockbusters with nobody actors to name them all.

And they all bombed. Some not as bad as others.

 

[AgentOtaku]

man... congrats on the art department if that is indeed the official theatrical poster!

surprised something like that even would get approval

 

[twinturbo2]

While this is the majority of how it works, I take issue with it being the only way Hollywood does things. For example, Pacific Rim wasn't exactly brimming with star power by having Charlie Hunnam and Rinko Kikuchi in the lead roles.

And Pacific Rim barely broke even worldwide, mostly due to the Chinese marketplace saving the film's ass.

 

[Ratrat]

And they all bombed. Some not as bad as others.

SO? There are plenty that havent. And blockbusters with nobody white actors will continue to be made with varying success. Whats your point?

 

[Hoya Destroyer]

So Scarlet isnt naked when she falls off the building and there is no blood when those guys at the table get shot up? I dont think I'd like this movie. Too PG.

 

[muteki]

the super bowl teaser would be 100x better without the shitty narration.

It's kinda a crappy tagline too.

 

[King Kye]

Dope-as-hell poster. It shouldn't, but gives me hope that everyone involved gets the project.

 

[Octavianus]

And as someone who have seen all Hollywood's Resident Evil movies, I can assure you they are trashier than GITS trailer.

No, not really.

 

[Blargonaut]

So Scarlet isnt naked when she falls off the building and there is no blood when those guys at the table get shot up? I dont think I'd like this movie. Too PG.