squeakywheel
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Looks good but the whitewashing is really annoying to me...
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Ghost In The Shell (2017) Trailer
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balgajo
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Hoping for this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARTLckN9e7I
Actually I'd love if that was the trailer main song.
Actually I'd love if that was the trailer main song.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Why even bother making a movie if you're just going to rip off shots from Ghost in the Shell. Isn't that every sci fi movie since Ghost in the Shell anyway?
Patlabor 1 till the day I die.
The full opening is okay. This is the point where you can see PG-13 impacting the movie due to all the close-ups and lights at the end.
TDLink
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Fair enough. I still feel like even if DVDs are your only option, SAC is better experienced as a whole rather than those slimmed down compilations.
ElBoxyBrown
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Good find. I should have linked to the creator's YT account. Will fix.
I haven't watched those movies since the '90s, so my memory is a bit foggy, but yes, the first was the better one.
distantmantra
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Oh totally! I've got the DVDs (bought them one at a time as Bandai slowly released them back in the day), too and it is the superior way to watch if you have the time.
The DVDs (and SAC film BDs) are long out of print. Curious what they now go for on the secondary market.
Edit: the boxed sets are super affordable still.
GavinUK86
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Always heard of Patlabor but never got around to watching any. What should I start with? The films or the anime?
The OVA series, it's seven episodes. Then move onto the movies, you can skip the third one.
The TV series is a separate timeline which while good shouldn't be the starting point.
Wha-Wut?
Is the manga bad now or something? Is that why people are kinda acting that the 95 movie was the progenitor of the franchise?
At the very least, as someone who dabbles into glitch art, I'm interested in how they are using it in the promotion of the movie.
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Fucking LOL at people saying that the GitS manga is not essential reading. The second one? Sure, it's hot garbage that should be avoided at all costs. But the original? You are missing a lot if you go with Oishii movie as the start of the franchise.
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Fucking LOL at people saying that the GitS manga is not essential reading. The second one? Sure, it's hot garbage that should be avoided at all costs. But the original? You are missing a lot if you go with Oishii movie as the start of the franchise.
The manga is... weird.
It has a completely different tone than everything else. It's got Shirow's trademark humour and it's full of softcore lesbian porn.
Hey, I have a copy and I like it, but it's certainly falls into the "one of these things is not like the others" category.
Dice//
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Great song choice IMO
SuperStiltzkin
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I first saw the movies as a kid. Then started watching the shows.
The movies and first OVA are a different timeline than the TV series. Both feature the same characters and setup and everything, but there are events that clash so they have to be separate. But honestly, any order is fine. TV series is more comedic and episodic. Don't expect the equivalent of GitS to GitS: SAC.
Patlabor 1 is a more enjoyable movie and is more based in sci-fi, being a rampaging robots movie. Patlabor 2 is, for all intents and purposes, a Tom Clancy-esque political thriller. Mecha is virtually absent from the film. Lots and lots of talking and unless you know about Japanese politics, it'll go over your head. I know I was left scratching mine as a kid, but still recognized the great atmosphere it had. Patlabor 2 is when Kenji Kawai really started to veer more away from cartoony/anime-ish music and more toward moody and atmospheric music too. I really enjoyed Patlabor 2 on subsequent watches. It's pretty cool to see a team of usually slapstick comedy characters take on a legitimate realistic terrorist threat that isn't rooted in any kind of science fiction. Patlabor 2 is a huge shift in mood for the series and I think it's where both Oshii and Kawai came into their own.
WXIII is a weird one that came out like 10 years after Patlabor 2 and does not feature any of the main cast outside of supporting cameo roles. It's a monster movie featuring two entirely new charcters. You could tell the director was trying to ape Oshii's style and follow the "formula" of the first two Patlabor movies.
Extra Sauce
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The production design looks pretty mesmerizing.
Lol. I meant that I downloaded it several times for different computers/laptops over the years since 2005
I loved Patlabor 2, but it was something else. A whole lot of things happened but nothing happened but everything happened. If you can wrap your head around that, it's very worthwhile.
Umm yeah. I have no problem with this.
Transistor
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That... Actually looks really damn good
IMO, the visuals alone make Patlabor 2 worth it. Heck, the dialogue too, if only because you rarely see animations with that sort of dialogue. (Mind you, I like the movie for more than that, just adding something to your recommendations)
It's not bad, but it's a completely different kind of beast compared to the film and pretty much every successive GitS property thereafter. Frankly, I don't think it's required viewing to get the most out of GitS leading up to this new film. If anything, I'd save the manga for last.
SuperStiltzkin
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If there's one thing that will always confuse me about Oshii's movies. It's his obsession with inter-government conflicts. I can't wrap my head around all the different police groups and their conflicting interests. Patlabor, GitS, Jin Roh (I know he didn't direct, but he did write.) Police vs. Public Security vs. JSDF vs. Special Ops group vs. Shadow group. I'm sure it's the equivalent of like Police vs FBI vs. NSA vs. Military, or something. But not being from Japan, it's kind of dizzying and overwhelming. It's like that mexican standoff scene in GTAV between the government agents and FIB and Merryweather.
Yeah, the jump from Patlabor 1 to Patlabor 2 is insane. Patlabor 1 isn't a bad looking movie by any means, but you can tell it's from the 80's. Patlabor 2 looks very modern by today's standards.
GavinUK86
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John Kowalski
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patently false
mightynine
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Arise is just more action-based compared to something like SAC. I like it for what it is.
Led_Zeppelin
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I was against this but it doesn't seem that bad, I will have an open mind and even be moderately optimistic about it maybe it could surprise me.
Turin Turambar
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It's a bit of humor something bad in a fiction work now?
And full of softcore porn lol, one scene in a +200 pages book isn't exactly 'full of'.
The manga has some virtues like Shirow's attention for detail that makes the world and the cases more believable, and the characters feel more real to me. Despite their high competence in the work, they are normal people, like us. They joke between them, like I do with my work colleagues. They get out to drink after a mission, celebrating they are still alive. All that makes easy to empathize with them, and therefore give a damn for the story.
I think I'll be seeing it opening day, even if it turns out to be a critical dumpster fire. The trailer and shelling scene both look quite nice, and as a GitS fan, I have to see it for myself.
Ahh, this would've been the perfect opportunity for a new Origa song and for her to get some major mainstream exposure. Shame she's no longer with us.
Why does that matter? Critiques of the film so far can be independent to the source material such as issues of representation or the green screen work at times.
SolicitorPirate
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Oh wow. Visually at least, the film seems to have done a perfect job capturing the GitS aesthetic in live action.
I am confused that they seem to be largely inspired, if not outright adapting scenes from the first movie though. Wasn't the movie's plot meant to be based on Individual Eleven? Or was that just a rumour?
I am confused that they seem to be largely inspired, if not outright adapting scenes from the first movie though. Wasn't the movie's plot meant to be based on Individual Eleven? Or was that just a rumour?
QuantumZebra
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Looks great and the Depeche Mode cover fit really well
Hope this keeps a philosophical edge to it and it could be a sleeper hit
Hope this keeps a philosophical edge to it and it could be a sleeper hit
There's shots that appear to be from:
a) the movie
b) laughing man arc of SAC
c) kuze arc of SAC
who knows what they're doing
Did I say it was bad? No. I just said the manga is very different in tone than everything else related to GitS.
Also, Masamune Shirow is a massive pervert. He's made a career of it. I don't think anyone can deny that. There's two different editions of GitS, and one contains much more explicit material than the other.
SolicitorPirate
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Wait, which one was the Kuze shot?
Admittedly my memory of GitS is rusty, but it seemed like the original movie scenes were the rooftop dive scene (which admittedly appears in SAC as well) and the invisibility cloaked fight scene, both of which were really close recreations. The only Laughing Man one I spotted was the dudes getting killed by robot geishas, but it didn't seem to adhere as closely as the movie inspired shots.
SolicitorPirate
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This almost seems like an understatement, given how his later career is going. Has any other manga artist gone from mainstream success to basically only doing porn?
Turin Turambar
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