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Wait gog doesn't have DRM.
Close this thread. Nothing more needs to be said. What a brilliant contribution.Destiny has online DMR and I don't see anyone complaining about it.
Some people like owning a game instead of renting it.GOG should put a DRM tag on the games that have it. But, I literally have 0 issues with DRM, I'm not sure why a lot of you do
Close this thread. Nothing more needs to be said. What a brilliant contribution.
How do you dress yourself in the morning? Your comment is at best retarded. This helps verify the reasons people avoid discussion due to so much moronic posting. Crayons could be supplied and a dedicated forum section for your quality level of posting to be submitted in an effort to decrease the amount of shit that is posted.Wouldn’t be surprised to know that the people bitching about this have likely finished the game or own it on Steam already.
I'm sorry, please continue posting stupid replies. The gif just did wonders to your first post. Well played, checkmate.
Destiny has online DMR and I don't see anyone complaining about it.
You're making many assumptions with this comment alone. There's plenty of mature and valid discussion taking place in this forum, it's the entire backbone of NeoGAF, but there's also many facetious statements for the purposes of humour and that was one of mine. You must be new here and it clearly shows, what my comment was highlighting was the basis of bitching for the sake of bitching. A game released in 2016, has been readily available and heavily discounted, and people on GOG act as though they've waited 5 years for it. Like I said, wouldn't be surprised to hear if most people there have already played it.How do you dress yourself in the morning? Your comment is at best retarded. This helps verify the reasons people avoid discussion due to so much moronic posting. Crayons could be supplied and a dedicated forum section for your quality level of posting to be submitted in an effort to decrease the amount of shit that is posted.
Wait gog doesn't have DRM.
"bitching for the sake of bitching" The key selling point of GOG has always been the lack of DRM. Your presumption of people possibly bitching about it for the sake of it doesn't matter, it's completely valid and justified criticism. Not sure why my account age or post count is a metric for calling out nonsense?You're making many assumptions with this comment alone. There's plenty of mature and valid discussion taking place in this forum, it's the entire backbone of NeoGAF, but there's also many facetious statements for the purposes of humour and that was one of mine. You must be new here and it clearly shows, what my comment was highlighting was the basis of bitching for the sake of bitching. A game released in 2016, has been readily available and heavily discounted, and people on GOG act as though they've waited 5 years for it. Like I said, wouldn't be surprised to hear if most people there have already played it.
That's what I was thinking.The whole point is that they are supposed to be a DRM free storefront. So if a game has it's own DRM then that goes against it.
I'm accustomed to their policies due to being a long-time buyer on GOG, but I'm not as animated when it comes to dealing with DRM. One would think with so much happening in the world that review-bombing an old game would be beneath us, but I'm not surprised when it comes to the gaming community. Allow them their petty victory, even though GOG's actions have always been admirable. Bringing forgotten classics to modern hardware, taking on community suggestions and having an excellent refund policy. One wrong move and all that goodwill goes down the crapper."bitching for the sake of bitching" The key selling point of GOG has always been the lack of DRM. Your presumption of people possibly bitching about it for the sake of it doesn't matter, it's completely valid and justified criticism. Not sure why my account age or post count is a metric for calling out nonsense?
There are people that don't want to purchase games that have DRM. GOG offer this service, it's one of the the key selling points.
Also what i think. While they they do deserve some criticism for it and the negative reviews are fair if only to warn other costumers of the issues, immediately taking out the pitchforks and torches like i see some doing just make things worse in the long run.I'm accustomed to their policies due to being a long-time buyer on GOG, but I'm not as animated when it comes to dealing with DRM. One would think with so much happening in the world that review-bombing an old game would be beneath us, but I'm not surprised when it comes to the gaming community. Allow them their petty victory, even though GOG's actions have always been admirable. Bringing forgotten classics to modern hardware, taking on community suggestions and having an excellent refund policy. One wrong move and all that goodwill goes down the crapper.
How is the gog refund better than steam? I dont like steam but im not sure if gog has a better refund policy. Also it doesnt matter what they did before, its where are they now and this was adding up btw with other drm being snuck in here and there with some games.Also what i think. While they they do deserve some criticism for it and the negative reviews are fair if only to warn other costumers of the issues, immediately taking out the pitchforks and torches like i see some doing just make things worse in the long run.
The message it sends is that its far more worthwhile for them to flick the 'fuck it' switch and just stop caring at all, since no matter how many good things they bring to the table, all good will is rendered meaningless with one bad move.
The best refund policy in the digital gaming market? Offline installers? Fixed old games? As my parents always said, people only remember and hammer on the mistakes, no matter how small, while completely forgeting all the good you did.
30 day refund policy, regardless of having downloaded or not the game, or your play time. Naturally they monitor things to make sure you aren't abusing it.How is the gog refund better than steam? I dont like steam but im not sure if gog has a better refund policy.
Its not what they did before, its what they still do. And please don't tell me you're one of those who think if the game has a single item or skin that requires you to login to something to get, it automatically counts as 'DRMed'.Also it doesnt matter what they did before, its where are they now and this was adding up btw with other drm being snuck in here and there with some games.
No, there is a title called Absolver that is kinda similar to the hitman drm actually. Hitman being the most and biggest one though so this one alone is not forgivable since it can lead to more in the future.30 day refund policy, regardless of having downloaded or not the game, or your play time. Naturally they monitor things to make sure you aren't abusing it.
Steam is 14 days, 2 hours play time max.
Its not what they did before, its what they still do. And please don't tell me you're one of those who think if the game has a single item or skin that requires you to login to something to get, it automatically counts as 'DRMed'.
from what i read, the problem with the this absolver game is that the single player PvE mode sucks, while PvP which naturally needs an internet connection is somewhat decent making it kind of the main attraction, though apparently the game just sucks in general either way.No, there is a title called Absolver that is kinda similar to the hitman drm actually. Hitman being the most and biggest one though so this one alone is not forgivable since it can lead to more in the future.
"Animated, so much happening in the world, petty victory" What are you even talking about now? You keep shifting and have no actual firm point in your discussion. It seems your point is, it's petty that customers shouldn't be disappointed with a company that prides themselves on selling games without DRM while sneakily selling games with DRM. Complaining against that is petty because of everything that is happening in the world and the game being old?I'm accustomed to their policies due to being a long-time buyer on GOG, but I'm not as animated when it comes to dealing with DRM. One would think with so much happening in the world that review-bombing an old game would be beneath us, but I'm not surprised when it comes to the gaming community. Allow them their petty victory, even though GOG's actions have always been admirable. Bringing forgotten classics to modern hardware, taking on community suggestions and having an excellent refund policy. One wrong move and all that goodwill goes down the crapper.
Dear Community,
Thank you for your patience and for giving us the time to investigate the release of HITMAN GOTY on GOG. As promised, we’re getting back to you with updates.
We're still in dialogue with IO Interactive about this release. Today we have removed HITMAN GOTY from GOG’s catalog – we shouldn’t have released it in its current form, as you’ve pointed out.
We’d like to apologise for the confusion and anger generated by this situation. We’ve let you down and we’d like to thank you for bringing this topic to us – while it was honest to the bone, it shows how passionate you are towards GOG.
We appreciate your feedback and will continue our efforts to improve our communication with you.
The point of gog is drm free, there shouldn't be any games with drm on it. And obviously a huge amount did since there was a huge thread on the forums and even gaming media picked the story up, gog took the game down today too.One game in 1000s, I dont see a problem. If it starts a giant trend, then sure. Just because a store says their purpose is one thing, doesn't mean they cant do another.
If a bakery says fresh baked food, guess what? When you walk in you can buy fresh baked muffins as well as prepackaged junk like pop, juice, bagged bread made in a factory a week ago, coffee beans in a tin can from 5000 miles away, packaged dry pasta from italy etc.... There's nothing fresh about this stuff. Half the store probably isnt freshly made.
Car dealership. Sign says Honda. Get to the lot and they might have used cars from different brands. It's not necessarily 100% Honda gear.
Who cares.
Destiny has online DMR and I don't see anyone complaining about it.
One game in 1000s, I dont see a problem. If it starts a giant trend, then sure. Just because a store says their purpose is one thing, doesn't mean they cant do another.
If a bakery says fresh baked food, guess what? When you walk in you can buy fresh baked muffins as well as prepackaged junk like pop, juice, bagged bread made in a factory a week ago, coffee beans in a tin can from 5000 miles away, packaged dry pasta from italy etc.... There's nothing fresh about this stuff. Half the store probably isnt freshly made.
Car dealership. Sign says Honda. Get to the lot and they might have used cars from different brands. It's not necessarily 100% Honda gear.
Who cares.
Still don't know what these assclowns were thinking in the first place. They thought - let me get this straight - that betraying the one principle justifying the site's existence would be a good idea why exactly?
The thing is that the game is designed to be played online. Challenges are stored on the server and when community found bugs on them, they were fixed on the server.Ideally, IOI should have made a fully offline version.
It's drm since the base game has progression locked online. you wouldn't be able to save any of the items if you played offline only.The thing is that the game is designed to be played online. Challenges are stored on the server and when community found bugs on them, they were fixed on the server.
It's not DRM if you can still play the base game without internet, albeit without all the dynamic content.
The thing is that the game is designed to be played online. Challenges are stored on the server and when community found bugs on them, they were fixed on the server.
It's not DRM if you can still play the base game without internet, albeit without all the dynamic content.
The sad thing is, as we move towards game streaming, then all games will have DRM and require constant internet connection by default.
But you can't. Single player progress unlocks require internet connection.It's not DRM if you can still play the base game without internet, albeit without all the dynamic content.
Why are there even apologists for this?
If you want the version with DRM it's available on every other PC storefront.
GOG is the one place where you can get access to a catalogue of games that are 100% DRM free. This has no business being on that store.
In addition to that: what on earth did cross on CDPR HQ's mind, to even allow something totally opposite to their entire selling proposition.
Agreed. btw there is another 100% drm free store called zoom platform.Why are there even apologists for this?
If you want the version with DRM it's available on every other PC storefront.
GOG is the one place where you can get access to a catalogue of games that are 100% DRM free. This has no business being on that store.
You actually can. In fact, there are YouTube tutorials on how to beat the game with the basic items (you know...with no unlocks).But you can't. Single player progress unlocks require internet connection.
Also, you can't call DRM when a game is DESIGNED to be played online in the first place.
IO story-mode challenges, community created challenges and escalations, elusive targets, leaderboards, map challenges, different unlockable items added AFTER the game was released, missions released AFTER the game was released (in Hitman 1 and 2 there are a bunch of them), etc.what additional functionality is available while playing online that wouldn't be possible offline?
That's cool and all - but what's stopping IO from including all of that extra content and fixes in a patch? Tons of games (even games on GOG) have patches that add new levels, new weapons, and balance fixes to games after they've been released.Community created challenges and escalations, elusive targets, leaderboards, map challenges, different unlockable items added AFTER the game was released, missions released AFTER the game was released (in Hitman 1 and 2 there are a bunch of them), etc.
The game is constantly getting new content and updates (I mean, this year alone we've had various elusive targets and community challenges), so I open the game at least once a week in order to get up to date on what's happening in it.
Heck, I still remember that in Hitman 1, there was an update where IO actually CHANGED part of a mission in order to increase the difficulty thanks to community feedback. It's that dynamic.
Have you ever played Hitman? Seriously?That's cool and all - but what's stopping IO from including all of that extra content and fixes in a patch? Tons of games (even games on GOG) have patches that add new levels, new weapons, and balance fixes to games after they've been released.
The only thing you mention that would actually require an online connection is leaderboards. And I think this release would have been fine if that were the only (optional) feature that required an internet connection.
Yes, I've played Hitman before. I didn't play it seriously, because stuff like elusive targets pissed me off.Have you ever played Hitman? Seriously?
Elusive targets are targets that appear ONCE, for a short amount of time (usually a week) and then are cut of from the game and server. You can only play those missions ONCE (hence the name "elusive targets") and if you fail them, you can't play them ever again (because that attempt is stored on the server).
Community challenges are added almost every single week and sometimes they are modified in order to be more difficult. There's also the multiplayer challenges mode, where you actually compete with other players in killing a target. Players escalations are also sometimes live, while other times are never updated; however, all of player escalations rely on being stored on the server.
Now, Hitman 1 will have no more elusive targets, since the period for them is over. However, all other "live" features are alive and well. Since it has live services, can you call those services DRM? or just live services? Because at least to me, live services are that, and DRM is another thing.