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Golden Age Anime Thread....List them!
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PdotMichael
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It was typical for many animes from the 90s like Slayers or Tenchi Muyo... okay the K-On picture it's a little extreme but not untrue.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That's not 70's!
Also time to put in some classic Literature animoo. Here are some of my favorites.
Anne of Green Gables
A Little Princess
Heidi of the Mountains
Trapp Family Story (Yes, Sound of Music got an anime)
Nobody's Girl
Flowers of Charlotte
Also time to put in some classic Literature animoo. Here are some of my favorites.
Anne of Green Gables
A Little Princess
Heidi of the Mountains
Trapp Family Story (Yes, Sound of Music got an anime)
Nobody's Girl
Flowers of Charlotte
PdotMichael
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although Nobody's Girl killed the World Masterpiece Theater animes, because of low ratings.
It's a very well directed show with memorable, even relatable characters and an interesting hook. It also has great mechanical animation --pretty much anybody who was somebody worked on it.Ookami-kun said:
Your grudge against Gainax and their works is certainly something. We get it, you know about Ideon and Zambot 3. There's no need to whip them out every time Eva gets mentioned in a positive light.
PdotMichael
Banned
icarus-daedelus said:
Why? They are all well-made, I see no problems wathcing WMT animes.
And I watched it since I was a little kid in Singapore, Taiwan and then Europe, so they have a great nostalgic value for me.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Finaika said:
Ah yes, Perrine.
Goddamnit it, I cried when her mom and donkey died. ;_;
PdotMichael said:
B-but Nobody's Girl is really good!
icarus-daedelus said:
There's something endearing about watching them animated, to say the least. And seeing them animated in an episodic format rather than theatrical sort of expands them.
Aigis said:
It's more on the noisy fans actually. I really don't care much about Gainax's stuff. The only thing that remotely made me interested is His and Her Circumstance, and that's because they didn't do their batshit scenes in the show.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Is there an actual golden age of animu or are people just posting stuff from their childhoods?
Jex
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I would like to point out that this is factually incorrect. He was suffering from depression while working on Nadia: Secret of the Blue Water.Krev said:
No, there isn't really a 'golden age'. You can talk about good years, and good periods, but I'd be hard pushed to apply the 'golden age' label too liberally, especially if you're not mentioning all the excellent shows from the 2000's.Regulus Tera said:
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Jexhius said:
I'm not saying it isn't popular.
And yes, it's ignorant not to acknowledge that fact - a lot of people do say that it "deconstructs" a lot of things or "tried things first".
Regulus Tera said:
A lot of the posts here aren't really "golden age" though
Jex
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Regardless of what 'lots of people' may or may not say, I think it's much more constructive to directly address points ranged by actual members on this forum, as opposed to blaming SEELE.Ookami-kun said:
Well, when these World Masterpiece Theatre shows are directed by Isao Takahata, with the help of Hayo Miyazaki and others you end up with, in my experience, some of the finest anime television series that I've ever seen. This is hardly surprising when you consider the talent that went into making these things.icarus-daedelus said:
Shouta
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Aigis said:
But uh, you guys haven't really made any points. You're just saying "Nuh uh!" The only thing resembling a point that anyone has made is thta Tomino is a bad director, but then Anno is bad too so it's even.
Ookami-kun said:
Uh, there's some ridiculous stuff in Karekano.
TheKaeptain
Banned
icarus-daedelus said:
WATCH MACROSS!!!!!!
Yeah I thought the same thing prior to watching Anne of green gables - but it's really wonderful in terms of execution due to takahata directorial skills, you can even see elements of his later work like only yesterday show up in it. Plus it's considered one of the most faithful adaptations of the novel, and probably the best one to!icarus-daedelus said:
I'm not so sure if it's worth bothering with any WMT anime if it's not directed by dezaki and takahata tho.
What? I explained reasons why it's popular. It's well-made and has a great hook as well as characters that people remember/relate to/etc.Shouta said:
He thinks that the only reason people like it is because they think it's a DEEP deconstruction that did NEW THINGS, but thankfully Ookami-kun himself is here to enlighten us and tell us that it didn't do anything new so it really doesn't deserve its popularity, for some reason.
Also Tomino is an objectively bad director. His writing is poor and contrived. He has ABSOLUTE NO SENSE OF PACING AT ALL, seriously watching his shows is mind boggling because they're paced so poorly. Editing.. scenes in Tomino anime do not flow -- this is not another way of saying "they don't flow well" -- no, they don't flow. At all. Each new scene is like a new episode in itself. And when each new scene starts it feels like the characters have already been doing whatever for several minutes before the viewer arrived. This is not a good thing.
In short, he's so amazingly awful that pretty much everything he's made is watchable for the wrong reasons.
Anno is/was (Rebuild is terrible, even if he's only the chief director of that I'll still blame him for it) a GREAT director and a middling writer.
That is a crime!SaitoH said:
Many shows that Dezaki was involved with hold up very well and are worth checking out. Ashita no Joe, Rose of Versailles, Oniisama E, Black Jack, etc.
As I understand it, his depression was a long-term thing. I'm aware of what he was going through when making Nadia, and how expressing himself through Eva became his way of 'not running away' from his problems or the rest of society (since he felt making anime was one of the only ways he was able to properly communicate with the world around him). He's stated that when he finished Eva he felt completely empty, like there was no more purpose to his life and no reason to go on living, and I recall an anecdote about him retreating to a snow covered island and spending days walking around, sometimes barefoot, in a kind of daze, before he was able to find the motivation to make The End of Evangelion. There was an NHK special from in 1998 where he teaches animation to school kids in his home town, and he shows a lot of signs of depression in that. It's not something that was limited to his time making Nadia.Jexhius said:
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Jexhius said:
Aigis said:
Don't need to go that far. Just got o TVTropes or ANN or any similar forum.
With that said, I just said that as a follow up to a post many aeons ago.
Shouta said:
I guess, but it's not as mind-boggling.
Aigis said:
I guess if you consider making people bewildered by weird imagery as great?
Anyway needs more classic Tatsunoko
Shouta
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Aigis said:
But frankly, Eva isn't famous or popular for being well-made and having great characters because there's a lot of anime that's just as good if not better. Ookami's is relatively on point, much of the mindshare that Eva has is because of the perception that it did new things or was a deconstruction. That isn't really true. Ookami is however wrong in that it wasn't the only reason. The other big reason it was popular was because it was one of the few series up until that point to have a really edgy presentation. It was head-turner and it still is because it's unique in that regard.
I'm not really going to get into Anno's directing because that's one helluva a long argument I simply don't have the time for. However, I will say that I don't think he is any better than Tomino.
Shouta said:
Wut. Maybe if you said "storyteller" that would sort of make sense, but saying that Anno is not any better than Tomino as a director would require ignoring any sort of actual standards we have with regards to film making techniques. Anno actually understands film and direction, and he demonstrates a very capable application of such skills. Tomino does not. Tomino doesn't even give a shit about his "direction" in general, he is only interested in using whatever medium he can to tell a story.
Tomino is not a good director, and he is not a good writer, but he has really interesting ideas which he enjoys expressing without giving a damn about any preconceived notion of what a movie or series "should" be like. This could be a good or bad thing depending on the intended end result, but honestly Tomino is really better off if he just came up with ideas and let someone who is actually capable of proper film direction to direct his stories.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Aigis said:
You mean as popular as how EVA is directed. I'd list examples but I can expect the reaction.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Macross rules icarus~!icarus-daedelus said:
Jex
Member
I don't think that's right either. That's kind of like saying Gundam isn't famous for having Char Aznable and that he isn't a draw for the show. Is it likely that a work endures for 15 years just on the strength of being 'edgy' or a 'deconstruction'? If people can't connect to the work on some level, through characters or something else, I don't see it retaining it's popularity or appeal. That's not the same as saying the characters are 'good', just that they have a clear appear.Shouta said:
When given full creative and artistic vision, Tomino makes stuff like Garzey's Wing. Writes, directs, storyboards etc. It's a disaster. He isn't really great at cinematography, framing or any of the basics. Just as bad, or perhaps worse, he has zero understanding of pacing and editing. He, literally, can't direct, or write. Somehow he's remained this way for 30 years.Shouta said:
Anno, on other hand, has demonstrated a fine understanding of directing.
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