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[BenjaminBirdie]

its late.

Boy it sure is.

Based on previews, it's the opposite. The PS3 version looks and runs better. Mainly in the fact that the PS3 version has more AA and a more realistic colour palette.

I thought it was "brighter" on 360. AA, sure, but the color difference (which seems to be kind of standard thing for most multiplatform games) seems to be a matter of preference and not quantifiable advantage.

 

[Smokey]

360 version for me because of everything mentioned in the poll.

Main thing is DLC though and achievements. This is a perfect game for achievements.

 

[Leonsito]

360, I don't own a PS3

Spoiler

and still have no reason

 

[D3VI0US]

Even if I had a PS3 I would buy it on 360 cause of the DLC and friends. When I get my PS3 later this year I'll just play it by ear.

 

[Absinthe (Permed)]

If no1 buys GTA games for the story, and no1 finishes the GTA games. Why would anyone ever buy SA or VC?


There's absolutely no point in buying them unless you either
A)Play the storyline which according to the sony fanclub no1 does
B)Buy it purely for new Weapons/vehicles. Which means the DLC is guaranteed to sell millions purely because new Weapons/Vehicles/Clothes is the absolute least that it will include.

So either way despite the Sony spin 360 Wins.

There's a huge difference. People primarily bought SA and VC because they were completely different games set in different time periods. I don't care how big the DLC is because the average consumer isn't going to view it as another full game like SA and VC were. I seriously doubt that DLC is going to sell "millions". If they release the DLC content too soon then no one cares because they're still working on the main game. If they release it too late then no one cares because bigger and brighter things have come out (on both consoles). So I don't think it's going to be some runaway juggernaut.

 

[ijm72]

360 version for me because the majority of my friends are on Live and I prefer the 360 controller over the DS3. I also plan on seeing what DLC brings but its not the deciding factor. I just think its funny to see people downplaying the DLC when we don't even know what it is yet. I also got a laugh out of this post:

Sure maybe, but I already know several people who don't care because they don't plan on beating the game anyway.

So they already know a month in advance that they are not going to beat the game?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I seriously doubt that DLC is going to sell "millions". If they release the DLC content too soon then no one cares because they're still working on the main game. If they release it too late then no one cares because bigger and brighter things have come out (on both consoles). So I don't think it's going to be some runaway juggernaut.

They're going to market it just as hard as the game. And if the game is successful (good chance of that) then even a hint of anything added onto the story of the already highly likeable and thoroughly awesome Niko in the just-like-the-first-four-retail-ones teasing and pawed at Trailers for the DLC will cause interest in said DLC to increase significantly.

 

[Ten-Song]

What? They've said they run the same, and that they both have benefits over the other. I wouldn't say it's "the opposite" at all. Maybe if you have an agenda, yes.

Yeah, I haven't read anything anywhere, that says there's any kind of disparity between the two platforms.

 

[Absinthe (Permed)]

They're going to market it just as hard as the game. And if the game is successful (good chance of that) then even a hint of anything added onto the story of the already highly likeable and thoroughly awesome Niko in the just-like-the-first-four-retail-ones teasing and pawed at Trailers for the DLC will cause interest in said DLC to increase significantly.

It doesn't matter how hard they market the game when a certain percentage of the 360 fanbase has never downloaded any content from Xbox Live. What makes you think that those people are magically going to start downloading things? Hell, I remember reading that a good percentage of 360 owners haven't even connected their 360 online. Then there's the whole argument of, "Well, even if a 360 owner has his or her 360 online that doesn't mean that a) he or she even bought GTA IV or b) will download the content even if he or she has the game."

 

[Scottlarock]

There's a huge difference. People primarily bought SA and VC because they were completely different games set in different time periods. I don't care how big the DLC is because the average consumer isn't going to view it as another full game like SA and VC were. I seriously doubt that DLC is going to sell "millions". If they release the DLC content too soon then no one cares because they're still working on the main game. If they release it too late then no one cares because bigger and brighter things have come out (on both consoles). So I don't think it's going to be some runaway juggernaut.

um the average consumer tells you to buy it or not? the OG post is which to buy, not if one sells more.

 

[WinFonda]

I seriously doubt that DLC is going to sell "millions". If they release the DLC content too soon then no one cares because they're still working on the main game. If they release it too late then no one cares because bigger and brighter things have come out (on both consoles). So I don't think it's going to be some runaway juggernaut.

The DLC itself will sell millions. Not millions of extra copies of GTA4, or millions of Xbox 360's, but millions of people will purchase it off XBL I am sure.

 

[Ariexv]

There's a huge difference. People primarily bought SA and VC because they were completely different games set in different time periods. I don't care how big the DLC is because the average consumer isn't going to view it as another full game like SA and VC were. I seriously doubt that DLC is going to sell "millions". If they release the DLC content too soon then no one cares because they're still working on the main game. If they release it too late then no one cares because bigger and brighter things have come out (on both consoles). So I don't think it's going to be some runaway juggernaut.

How do you know what the avg consumer views it as? As for the DLC not selling millions.... the Halo 3 Mappack sold what? a Million copies....despite becoming free just a couple months later. Also whos to say it doesn't also release in disc form still as a 360 exclusive like the Oblivion expansion?

 

[Narag]

It doesn't matter how hard they market the game when a certain percentage of the 360 fanbase has never downloaded any content from Xbox Live. What makes you think that those people are magically going to start downloading things? Hell, I remember reading that a good percentage of 360 owners haven't even connected their 360 online. Then there's the whole argument of, "Well, even if a 360 owner has his or her 360 online that doesn't mean that a) he or she even bought GTA IV or b) will download the content even if he or she has the game."

I would think the marketing would be to get said percentage to actually download the content. There's a lot of bizarre what-if scenarios in your post that affect a smaller percentage with each what-if.

I wonder what percentage of the market is comprised of arcade owners that bought a hard drive after the fact and uses a white wireless controller with a black play and charge kit.

 

[Absinthe (Permed)]

The DLC itself will sell millions. Not millions of extra copies of GTA4, or millions of Xbox 360's, but millions of people will purchase it off XBL I am sure.

I'm not so sure. I think that's an awfully liberal estimate when we don't even know the pricing.

 

[Woo-Fu]

PS3 version. I like it when the game is louder than the console at normal listening volume.

 

[jakncoke]

ps3 version as I only have a PS3 atm, although if I had a 360 I'd probably get it on ps3 as well as I prefer the ps3 controller.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

It doesn't matter how hard they market the game when a certain percentage of the 360 fanbase has never downloaded any content from Xbox Live. What makes you think that those people are magically going to start downloading things? Hell, I remember reading that a good percentage of 360 owners haven't even connected their 360 online. Then there's the whole argument of, "Well, even if a 360 owner has his or her 360 online that doesn't mean that a) he or she even bought GTA IV or b) will download the content even if he or she has the game."

If this game can compel a segment of the population to buy an entirely new console to play it, you don't think it could be the one thing that could compel another fresh segment of a population to take an even smaller feduciary step?

Again, if the content is as compelling as the game is (obviously, again, on a smaller scale) there's no reason that it can't have an unprecendented performance in the DLC marketplace.

 

[Ariexv]

It doesn't matter how hard they market the game when a certain percentage of the 360 fanbase has never downloaded any content from Xbox Live. What makes you think that those people are magically going to start downloading things? Hell, I remember reading that a good percentage of 360 owners haven't even connected their 360 online. Then there's the whole argument of, "Well, even if a 360 owner has his or her 360 online that doesn't mean that a) he or she even bought GTA IV or b) will download the content even if he or she has the game."

There's what 10 MILLION gold accounts? And that was a couple months ago..... there's as many GOLD online accounts as their are Ps3s. You're really underestimating how many people play online on XBL or even just buy stuff off of XBL. If 1 million people bought a Map-pack that was known to become free a couple months ago, who's to say the GTA DLC won't sell 2-3 million+? Especially if they do what they did with the Oblivion expansion and have it in disc form in stores as well.

 

[Scottlarock]

The DLC itself will sell millions. Not millions of extra copies of GTA4, or millions of Xbox 360's, but millions of people will purchase it off XBL I am sure.

not to mention the disc base 'GOTY/all DLC' edition that you know will launch doing christmas

 

[Absinthe (Permed)]

I don't see what the big deal is about the DLC anyway. It's probably content that should have been included on the disc to begin with. Some people will buy anything.

 

[Narag]

I don't see what the big deal is about the DLC anyway. It's probably content that should have been included on the disc to begin with. Some people will buy anything.

smh

 

[chico]

i own both systems and ill get the 360 version
reasons:
1. 360 controller is better
2. xbox live (-> where my gaming buddys are)

I dont really care for extra download content, will play til 12.6.2008 (MGS4!!!)

 

[godhandiscen]

I've never played a GTA game before, but my wife will get me the 360 version as a present, so I voted.

 

[Truant]

A lot of people are assuming the DLC will just be some shitty mission pack with average production values.

Reading interviews with Rockstar gives me a totally different impression. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a bigger deal than what the average Sony fanboy are making it to be.

 

[muzzakus]

If M$ payed millions for DLC on 360, I think it's not too far fetched to say that it will be packs of episodic content set in the GTA4 universe - In the veign of Half Life Ep1 & Ep2 or Sam & Max.

I estimate ~15hr of game play per episode @ 1200 points each. These will essentially be self contained games packs of the highest calibre matching what many stand alone AAA retail games offer now.

The revolution is coming, print this out and bury it.

 

[Absinthe (Permed)]

A lot of people are assuming the DLC will just be some shitty mission pack with average production values.

Reading interviews with Rockstar gives me a totally different impression. I'm pretty sure it's going to be a bigger deal than what the average Sony fanboy are making it to be.

I'm sure the content is going to be huge in terms of size. I'm not denying that. I just don't understand why people are so attracted to this. I'll likely beat GTAIV by the time June rolls around and then it's Metal Gear 4 for me. Then all of the fall games. I'm sorry, the GTA games are fun, but they also get ultra repetitive as well. I don't want more of the same and I guarantee you that's what the DLC will be. Just my opinion.

 

[Rahnter]

I like the fact that some people are posting one thing and voting another.

I'll be getting the 360 version eventually, but not on day one

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

If M$ payed millions for DLC on 360, I think it's not too far fetched to say that it will be packs of episodic content set in the GTA4 universe - In the veign of Half Life Ep1 & Ep2 or Sam & Max.

I estimate ~15hr of game play per episode @ 1200 points each. These will essentially be self contained games packs of the highest calibre matching what many stand alone AAA retail games offer now.

The revolution is coming, print this out and bury it.

They are going to be so much more expensive than that. But other than that, I agree with you.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

Going for PS3.

 

[tabsina]

I seem to be in the vast minority of PC gamers interested in GTA (but not enough to buy a console for it)

 

[Scottlarock]

I'm sure the content is going to be huge in terms of size. I'm not denying that. I just don't understand why people are so attracted to this. I'll likely beat GTAIV by the time June rolls around and then it's Metal Gear 4 for me. Then all of the fall games. I'm sorry, the GTA games are fun, but they also get ultra repetitive as well. I don't want more of the same and I guarantee you that's what the DLC will be. Just my opinion.

what if MGS included an extra 2 episodes for $15 and 4-5 hours each?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I'm sure the content is going to be huge in terms of size. I'm not denying that. I just don't understand why people are so attracted to this. I'll likely beat GTAIV by the time June rolls around and then it's Metal Gear 4 for me. Then all of the fall games. I'm sorry, the GTA games are fun, but they also get ultra repetitive as well. I don't want more of the same and I guarantee you that's what the DLC will be. Just my opinion.

And, I'm being completely honest here, I don't understand how someone is willing to make a $60 investment in a game but then condemn the qualities of said game as, within months, becoming stale and uninteresting to the point that new iterations of it (in terms of characters, conflicts, and situations) are in no way compelling.

I don't get how anyone could; after reading about the massive level of detail in setting, content, and character to be featured in this game; could possibly think that a developer of Rockstar's calibre will at some point run out of interesting things to offer in it.

(That being said, naturally, to each his own.)

 

[Timedog]

ACHIEVEMENTS!

 

[SpokkX]

Since I own both consoles I am still undecided..

I am leaning towards X360 though because of DLC, online multiplayer over live and possibly better technically (lead platform after all...)

will probably wait until reviews until I decide

 

[Gowans]

Internal Server 500 Error - DP

 

[E-phonk]

Pre-ordered the PS3 version. It will be the first non-downloadable game I buy for my PS3 that was not included when I bought it (uncharted!). Got it for Blu-ray/GTA4/MGS4/LBP.

I don't own a 360 (and most likely never will). The DLC addons don't interest me as much, not that it might not be totally awesome, but I rarely finish 60+ hours games - so I'm on the wagon with those who think GTA4 will suffice for my free-roaming-crime in 2008 needs.

 

[muzzakus]

And, I'm being completely honest here, I don't understand how someone is willing to make a $60 investment in a game but then condemn the qualities of said game as, within months, becoming stale and uninteresting to the point that new iterations of it (in terms of characters, conflicts, and situations) are in no way compelling.

I don't get how anyone could; after reading about the massive level of detail in setting, content, and character to be featured in this game; could possibly think that a developer of Rockstar's calibre will at some point run out of interesting things to offer in it.

(That being said, naturally, to each his own.)

Yes, it defies rational thinking. A steady stream of GTA games being dismissed while at the same time GTA4 is looked upon in anticipation as if it were the second coming of Christ ?

Allow me to explain - this viewpoint can only come form a fan of GTA, but only one that is secondary to being a Sony Fanboy first and formost. For obvious reasons.

 

[Gowans]

Truly the red state vs blue state voting for GAF. I expect the 360 to end up winning by a good 10-15% by the time the voting is done. And to outsell the PS3 version by a good 60% plus (perhaps 100%) in April's NPD.

100% agree, depends on how MS gets the DLC word out in the mainstream, also expect the same in the UK.


I own both system however 99% of my playtime is spent on the 360.

This is due to all of my friends have a 360 (only some have PS3)

Gameplaying is much more of a social experience, Private Chat while playing also rules.

I prefer the 360 controller for so many reasons over the PS3 (D-pad withstanding)

and other built into the system are nice additions I use (Custom Soundtrack etc.)


So even forgetting about everything else DLC etc. and owning both systems the only option for me is 360.


Anyway this thread is amazing, some guys here are retreated into some desperate reasoning to justify why their system of choice is better on both sides. Come on GAF.

Also this thread really show the representation of GAFs members with allegiances and the size of its supporters.

 

[KennyLinder]

PS3 version for me.

- I probably wont have time to finish it, so DLC is pointless to me
- My 360 beeps all the time and is incredibly loud. I don't think it could take another 50+ hour game
- I Prefer the DS3 controller

 

[besada]

Owning both systems increases the likelihood you would not subscribe to Gold. Just sayin'

It does? I own all three and have Gold. Can't play Halo, Gears, or Shadowrun on PS3. Can't play Pixel Junk Monsters, Wowhawk, and Hot Shots on the 360.

I don't think owning more than one console really says anything about one's Live status. If you want to play games online that don't exist for the PS3, you have to go Gold.

 

[antiloop]

Undecided. Maybe I will get it on PC later.

 

[Ironballs]

360

Lead Sku + DLC + Friends Lists + Custom Sountracks + Achievements = No Brainer

 

[WinFonda]

I'm not so sure. I think that's an awfully liberal estimate when we don't even know the pricing.

"Millions" isn't really liberal in my perspective. The DLC will not sell 1:1 with the game. They'd be lucky to get half of their addressable market. Even so, I'd say anywhere from 2-4 million downloads. Price is an issue, but it's GTA, people will buy it.

Extra content is extra content. Whatever it turns out to be, however much it costs, PS3 fans have a right to be upset. Those who want it won't have that option come October/November.

However, I really don't think we'd be talking about DLC that is due out --in half a year-- if it weren't exclusive to one system. Of course, that would happen no matter what the platform, but it's kind of silly how much attention it detracts from the actual game which is --due out this month!--

 

[CTLance]

I voted, and as such want to explain why I chose what I chose.

I'm of the small minority who couldn't possibly care less about GTA4.

I didn't really dislike the top down 2D GTAs, especially multiplayer was a blast, but I never made the jump to the 3D GTAs. Something just didn't click with me.

 

[reminder]

PS3 version

- GTA always had enough content for me. I simply don't need even more content.
- I prefer the PS3 controller.
- The console is more reliable and silent.
- I can play online for free.
- I only have a PS3, but my broher has a Xbox 360. But i don't want to use his console everytime i want to play.

 

[C4Lukins]

I'm not so sure. I think that's an awfully liberal estimate when we don't even know the pricing.

I think over a million seems pretty obtainable. When you see map packs that are only intended for online multiplayer selling over a million, I think something like this is much more compelling and to a much larger audience. I think at 20 dollars assuming these are decent sized expansions, they could sell a couple million units with each expansion. There is also the potential that the content will not just be downloadable. Both Halo 2 and Oblivion have set a presidence for purchasing disk based expansions, as well as gold editions of the complete game like CoD and other games have done.

 

[Gowans]

I don't think Lead Sku is that big of a deal any more but although I understand it maybe a factor for some purchases I find it funny that the amount of times people state this as an answer that you MUST buy this on their platform on choice, however when its not it's ignored.

Nice to have this thread as a benchmark.


I also find it odd that the guys who only have one system are listing reasons why when they have no choice anyway.

 

[CharminUltra]

PS3

Free online + No RRoD + Home integration + Unlockable Home items + Dual Shock 3 (small hands here) + not having to buy a ridiculously expensive Wi-Fi adaptor = No Brainer

Fixed for me!

 

[Ten-Song]

Fixed for me!

Unlockable Home items? When the hell did Rockstar ever say they'd be doing that? I don't care which system people prefer, but where the hell are you people getting some of this info, assuming you're not just making it up?

 

[Chris R]

Why are people wanting stuff for Home? Maybe I just don't understand it, but I'd rather be playing the game than walking around looking at stupid little trophies that I've unlocked.