Iamwolfthing
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I don't think Super Mario 3D Land could really be considered a Super Mario Galaxy sequel.
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Greatest Franchise Downfalls from Debut
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outunderthestars
Banned
Pretty much every franchise older than one generation.
Splinter Cell... fucking disgusting what it has become.There is no counter to the MGS franchise coming from the west now.I expect a reboot claiming they're going back to the roots in the next 5- 10 years.Like the majority of these failed sellout ,try to capture a bigger audience instead of letting it grow games.
God it really makes me angry how so many great series went downhill.
God it really makes me angry how so many great series went downhill.
GoofsterStud
Member
Viewtiful Joe. The original was great. The other ones I did not enjoy for some reason and the series just faded away.
I don't get the Dragon Age hate.
I loved 1, I think 1 was better than 2 in practically ever way. I still think 2 was better than the majority of alternatives at the time. I get that it didn't live up to one, and didn't meet our expectations, but I had fun playing it. I still find it a to be a good game, just not a great one...but in the sea of mediocrity that doesn't seem so bad.
Then again, maybe I'm one of the only few that actually enjoyed it.
I don't get the Dragon Age hate.
I loved 1, I think 1 was better than 2 in practically ever way. I still think 2 was better than the majority of alternatives at the time. I get that it didn't live up to one, and didn't meet our expectations, but I had fun playing it. I still find it a to be a good game, just not a great one...but in the sea of mediocrity that doesn't seem so bad.
Then again, maybe I'm one of the only few that actually enjoyed it.
OriginalNameGuy
Member
Splinter Cell and Ghost Recon
Its too much to ask for a decent stealth title or a tactical shooter nowadays.
Its too much to ask for a decent stealth title or a tactical shooter nowadays.
I think it applies to the entire Tom Clancy brand really.
I mean Vegas 2 was good but that must've been a long time ago.
It was all downhill from GRAW onwards otherwise.
Bumblebeetuna
Banned
Metal Gear Solid
Gran Turismo
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
Sonic
Duke Nukem
Turok is another nice one I have seen mentioned already.
These are all imho of course. Some are obvious, some are just personal.
Gran Turismo
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
Sonic
Duke Nukem
Turok is another nice one I have seen mentioned already.
These are all imho of course. Some are obvious, some are just personal.
Supermanisdead
Member
OR better than Galaxy 2...
Rainbow Six - From tactical gameplay, pre-planning, room clearing and realism to fast paced cover action and soon some bullshit Hollywood movie.
Medal of Honor - One of the best shooters has turned into some cheap bad military shooter.
Ghost Recon - Again, downward spiral.
World of Warcraft - From Vanilla to present day? Game just got worse and worse.
Microsoft Flight Simulator - Had a good run, the chicken broke its neck at FLIGHT.
None of these games will ever return to their former glory.
Medal of Honor - One of the best shooters has turned into some cheap bad military shooter.
Ghost Recon - Again, downward spiral.
World of Warcraft - From Vanilla to present day? Game just got worse and worse.
Microsoft Flight Simulator - Had a good run, the chicken broke its neck at FLIGHT.
None of these games will ever return to their former glory.
SkylineRKR
Member
Quake IV
No one saw this one coming, eh? Because its like the fucking most forgettable game ever.
No one saw this one coming, eh? Because its like the fucking most forgettable game ever.
Terra Firma
Banned
Dragon Age.
Monkey Island (after 3).
Age of Empires series (AoEO...euch)
Monkey Island (after 3).
Age of Empires series (AoEO...euch)
Bumblebeetuna
Banned
Forgot about SOCOM. Holy crap SOCOM 4 was a disaster.
Sentenza
Member
But they don't care about your opinion because the goddamn internet is ill-willed, while when they go at public events fans cheer them.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Did you guys not play Sonic Colors and/or Sonic Generations, or do you guys actually think Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations are bad?
Cuz they are the best Sonic games since Sonic Adventure....heck id say Sonic Generations was streamlined enough to totally out do Sonic Adventure, but Sonic Adventure had Chao Gardens and Chao Adventure soooo.
On Topic
GTA - GTA 1, 2, 3, VC and SA were absolutely brilliant and fun to no end. GTA4 boring.
FEAR - FEAR fucking brilliant, 2 and 3.....jokes.
Downfall.....if you start at the bottom you cant get any lower, if Brink 2 is even remotely better than Brink then it will belong in the other thread.
In next DA3 Protagonist will be hermaphrodite.
Kabuki Waq
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Crackdown
I agree and it's such a damn shame.
PinkCrayon
Member
Didn't we just have this thread?
DON'T REMIND ME
Canis lupus
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Mass Effect
Final Fantasy
Resident Evil
To name a few.
Final Fantasy
Resident Evil
To name a few.
PjotrStroganov
Member
I don't understand. It is flawed but it has been quite consistent with previous games. I'd say it's the most constant game series in the industry. For better and for worse.
Maybe I understand the thread title wrong, but you really think Final Fantasy and Resident Evil went downhill after the first game in the series?
CecilRousso
Member
Fable
People can say whatever they want about the hype but Fable 1 was a fun game with lots of good ideas that I would have liked other RPG's to copy, had a nice storyline, some quests with good choices and a great atmosphere.
Fable 2 unfortunately removed some of the fun ideas from the first one, but made the quests better and the combat really fun.
Fable 3 though, is one of the worst games I have ever played, where nothing at all makes any sense, no mechanics works together, the quests doesn´t fit the story and everything is so juvenile and stupid that I´m embarrased to even play it.
People can say whatever they want about the hype but Fable 1 was a fun game with lots of good ideas that I would have liked other RPG's to copy, had a nice storyline, some quests with good choices and a great atmosphere.
Fable 2 unfortunately removed some of the fun ideas from the first one, but made the quests better and the combat really fun.
Fable 3 though, is one of the worst games I have ever played, where nothing at all makes any sense, no mechanics works together, the quests doesn´t fit the story and everything is so juvenile and stupid that I´m embarrased to even play it.
old manatee
Banned
Crysis. The first half of Crysis 1 is a sandbox where you are set in huge maps and have a ton of weapons and abilities to approach things how you want. The downfall actually happens like 2/3s of the way through the first game and sets the tone for the sequels.
Tony Redgrave
Member
Dragon Age.
DA:O is one of the best WRPG's I've ever played, Da2 was, well, you all know already.
DA:O is one of the best WRPG's I've ever played, Da2 was, well, you all know already.
Except that Mass Effect was a clunky mess.
The game gaf gave goty twice and has higher reviews and sales than mgs3?
To be completely honest I really can't think of many series that are like this. There are series that have had fluctuating quality over time (Metal Gear Solid) but there are basically none that I can think of where the first game is indubitably the best.
I think probably the most likely progression is that a game in the middle of the series is the best, and the quality arranges itself in a bell curve around that. The first game is the developer trying on new duds and seeing what works. The second game is them improving on what they learned while making it bigger better and badder. The third game is trying to deliver what made the second game so great. But if you end up delivering just 'more of the same' then it feels repetitious. Or if you try and exceed it there's a good chance you'll come off the rails. See: Killzone 2->3, Uncharted 2->3.
I think probably the most likely progression is that a game in the middle of the series is the best, and the quality arranges itself in a bell curve around that. The first game is the developer trying on new duds and seeing what works. The second game is them improving on what they learned while making it bigger better and badder. The third game is trying to deliver what made the second game so great. But if you end up delivering just 'more of the same' then it feels repetitious. Or if you try and exceed it there's a good chance you'll come off the rails. See: Killzone 2->3, Uncharted 2->3.
GotEmRunnin
Member
The games I'd consider have already been stated, but I did want to say this. Sonic has went through a lost these past few years. Sonic Team lost direction, Sega lost direction, and the hedgehog had a huge drinking problem. Now Sonic team seems to have righted the ship, Sega has found new purpose in their digital download future, and Sonic is well on his way to sobriaty.
To Far Away Times
Member
Oh cool, a Sonic thread.
Sonic Adventure was the worst game in the series when it was released. And rereleases of the game reviewed very poorly. That Sonic Adventure is continually held up as some sort of landmark release for the 3D Sonic games speaks pretty loudly to how far the series has fallen. Remember, this series used to compete head to head with the classic Mario games in terms of quality.
Sonic Adventure was the worst game in the series when it was released. And rereleases of the game reviewed very poorly. That Sonic Adventure is continually held up as some sort of landmark release for the 3D Sonic games speaks pretty loudly to how far the series has fallen. Remember, this series used to compete head to head with the classic Mario games in terms of quality.
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
I'm probably the only person in the world who really enjoyed Dragon Age 2. Anyway, Jak & Daxter is the first game from the top of my head.
â Narayan
Member
I agree. The game receives more praise than it deserves, in my opinion.
Basileus777
Member
Half-Life
Sentenza
Member
Boom.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
Weird no one's mentioned CoD.
With CoD4 IW nailed the presentation and immersion by making everything in the game into gameplay which meant that the immersion never broke.
So many scenes in that game that are so memorable.
Then MW2 came around and it was great, not as memorable but they still nailed the gameplay part while I also liked the multiplayer more. To this day MW2 is my most played multiplayer-game.
Then BLOPS came out and the campaign became a joke in terms of playability, and MW3 just continued that fashion while feeling so incredibly gray and lifeless, like there was absolutely no passion for the game.
With CoD4 IW nailed the presentation and immersion by making everything in the game into gameplay which meant that the immersion never broke.
So many scenes in that game that are so memorable.
Then MW2 came around and it was great, not as memorable but they still nailed the gameplay part while I also liked the multiplayer more. To this day MW2 is my most played multiplayer-game.
Then BLOPS came out and the campaign became a joke in terms of playability, and MW3 just continued that fashion while feeling so incredibly gray and lifeless, like there was absolutely no passion for the game.