IronFistedChampion
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GT5 News - Nurburgring update (pre-E3 edition)
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SolidSnakex
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That doesn't mean that they aren't in the game. We just haven't seen anything from them yet. McLaren wasn't an announced manufacturer until CES where the McLaren F1 popped up in that demo.
twinturbo2
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That sucks, the MC12 is like an Enzo without being beaten to death by the ugly stick.SolidSnakex said:
Anyways, I've been following a shitstorm over at the Gamespot System Wars forum, and I have to ask... is Porsche in the game or not? RUF is okay, I guess, but I want the Carrera GT, too...
StealthGoblin
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RankoSD said:
Well pointed out. I definitely think they'll be in there, and I think the car roster will surprise us.
The track number is worrying as it hasn't been clarified, but I can wait.
SolidSnakex
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Porsche is a no go. There are licensing issues that Polyphony can't get around.
twinturbo2
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:-(SolidSnakex said:
Someone says that it's because EA has exclusive dibs on the license, but that doesn't explain why Forza 3 has Porsches. What are those issues?
Porsche : "there are a few sublicenses handed out by Electronic Arts. This happens to be the case for the Forza Motorsport game series"twinturbo2 said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19194852&postcount=16730
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3565233#post3565233
SolidSnakex
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AndyD said:
That's been what some have speculated. It's now the second time that we've seen that wind tunnel. The first time was in the PSP teaser for GT5.
Death Dealer
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TTG said:
It's not as aerodynamic a shape as the Enzo, but who cares ? I'm sure it still handles like a slot car. The interior is luxurious, and the car's finish and attention to detail are breathtaking. I love all the Italian touches and flair. They are billionaire's toys. They're not going to have to worry about speed bumps or a ding in the TGI Friday's parking lot.
Goldrusher
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StealthGoblin
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sensi97 said:
Sony could easily ask EA, but I reckon Microsoft paid just that little bit more for the license so Sony didn't get in on it. Otherwise its just plain illogical as Gran Turismo makes millions, has millions to spend, and I'm sure Porche would want in on it.
Galvanise_ said:
I don't see the Porsche license being a GTA episode sort of move on Microsoft's side, I just don't see them caring that much about it. My guess would be Porsche management isn't at all aware of this videogame thing or doesn't consider it a priority and there's just some strained relationship with EA. Porsche is officially a part of Audi and all of their stuff and they still aren't in the game, its' weird.
Goldrusher
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No, it isn't.TTG said:
Porsche Automobil Holding SE
Porsche AG
Porsche
Volkswagen Volkswagen (owns Bugatti)
Audi (owns Lamborghini)
Bentley
Scania
SEAT
koda
Audi (owns Lamborghini)
Bentley
Scania
SEAT
koda
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Hm, okay, I guess this explains the lack of Porsches in the last two Project Gotham Racing games, then.sensi97 said:
At least EA isn't being greedy and hogging the Porsche license like they are with the NFL license.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Porsche. There is no substitute, unless we're talking about RUF, then there is a substitute.
This probably isn't a deal breaker, at least there's going to be Ferraris and Lamborghinis galore...
This probably isn't a deal breaker, at least there's going to be Ferraris and Lamborghinis galore...
Galvanise_ said:
GT3 and 4 came out without Porsche long before MS got involved with Forza, so MS probably have little to do with it.
I'm not sure that PD don't care about not having Porsche, given how Kaz has twice said he's disappointed that Porsche aren't in, so it's just something we'll probably never find out the reasons why.
Rapping Granny
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offshore said:
uhmm EA had the exclusive liscense to Porches in those days.
Goldrusher
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You're missing the point of his reply.Rapping Granny said:
Galvanise_: It's Microsoft's fault. They paid EA more.
offshore: No, it isn't, because Microsoft didn't have Forza when GT3 was in production, yet that didn't have Porsches either.
StealthGoblin
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Goldrusher said:
Woah. If anything its EA's fault if it did come down to money. If I were Microsoft though, I would have paid a little more this time to ensure GT didn't get Porche.
Sony could just as easily be at fault for not bothering.
SolidSnakex
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Galvanise_ said:
Bothering with what? They've put 60m into this game. Secured licenses with Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bugatti and McLaren from a car perspective. And secured licenses for NASCAR, WRC, SuperGT and Indy Car from a racing league perspective. I really don't think this has anything to do with Sony not wanting to pay money.
fu3lfr3nzy
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twinturbo2 said:
The fuck?
EA is being greedy and hogging the Porsche license. you just quoted the very post in which Porsche explains its up to EA whether they want to share the Porsche love to everyone or not.
Porsche doesnt want to interfere with EA's decisions due to the long term relationship between the two companies(among other confidential stuff I suppose)
Funny how the general consensus considers EA a "good/nice company" in modern times yet tend to forget about dirty tactics like this that still exist =/
StealthGoblin
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SolidSnakex said:
Nothing bothering to try and get the Porche license enough. Like I've stated before, they have enough money, will make enough money and the game has a big enough budget to try and get the license.
Its either:
Sony not bothering.
EA saying 'fuck off'.
or Microsoft paying a tad more to EA to make them happy and not let Sony license the cars.
Either way we miss out. Its disappointing but hopefully we'll see Porche in GT one day.
SolidSnakex
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I think Sony would've found a way to get the Porsche license if they could. There's just a hang up that's preventing it and it's unlikely that we'll ever know what that is. People that want Porsche should just hope that EA's license with Porsche will run out and allow Polyphony to make some sort of Porsche DLC. EA apparently bought the license for NFS: Porsche Unleashed, and March will be the 10 year anniversary of that games release. That's a long time to hold on to a license for a single car manufacturer.
Anyway, here's a 8 megapixel shot (the quality of GT5's photomode) of that ARTA Garaiya that I posted earlier. I know some people like seeing screens of the game in that crazy resolution
http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/gt501.jpg
Anyway, here's a 8 megapixel shot (the quality of GT5's photomode) of that ARTA Garaiya that I posted earlier. I know some people like seeing screens of the game in that crazy resolution
http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/gt501.jpg
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
AndyD said:
Could be Peter Moore having strong friends at MS and he's head honcho of EA Sports? That's just a guess, I have no idea. I doubt it's a money issue...
There could be many reasons but we won't find out.
01) Microsoft interfering with negotiations (i really doubt that).
02) Sony not wanting to pay the upfront money (i dount that based on already acquired licenses).
03) EA not caring (doubt it as well, if they can see revenue, they'll say 'okay').
04) Peter Moore having connections (doubt it, as being head of EA Sports, wouldn't give you the power to convince Electronic Arts not to outsell the sublicense).
05) Sony waiting for the Porsche deal to expire this march, and eventually paying Porsche directly. They could have the 3D-models (of the cars) finalised at Polyphony Digital (releasing GT5 in fall), with them denying everything as it would otherwise get them in trouble.
01) Microsoft interfering with negotiations (i really doubt that).
02) Sony not wanting to pay the upfront money (i dount that based on already acquired licenses).
03) EA not caring (doubt it as well, if they can see revenue, they'll say 'okay').
04) Peter Moore having connections (doubt it, as being head of EA Sports, wouldn't give you the power to convince Electronic Arts not to outsell the sublicense).
05) Sony waiting for the Porsche deal to expire this march, and eventually paying Porsche directly. They could have the 3D-models (of the cars) finalised at Polyphony Digital (releasing GT5 in fall), with them denying everything as it would otherwise get them in trouble.
SolidSnakex
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Lamborghini's in general just looks like overdone messes.
SolidSnakex
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Gravijah said:
Woops, I clicked the wrong window when I posted that.
SolidSnakex
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Hopefully next weeks Famitsu article has some night racing shots. That would mean that Polyphony and Famitsu's website update later on in the week would have them also. I'd like to see them at a higher quality than the ones in P:TOM.
Goldrusher said:
Wasn't something in the news recently about how Porsche tried to buy out VW but failed so it backfired and now VW owns a huge part of Porsche?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34312311/ns/business-autos/
That's all I could find off hand. Either way, all the brands you listed are very much connected, I don't know why Porsche alone has to refuse.
blu
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huh? the mc12 has a distinctive LMP side profile. these things are not thrown in for kicks an giggles, you know.enzo_gt said:
mc12 profile
reference LMGTP profile 1
reference LMGTP profile 2
blu said:
Oh I'm aware of this, it's just something about the scoops that doesn't sit well with me. The car looked good until I saw this picture. Otherwise, it's fantastic. Different strokes, but even with largely similar performance (0.1 of a second faster on Power Laps could be negligible), even if it is slightly faster, I'd take the Enzo over it any day.
The boat part: because of the sheer size of the thing.
