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GTAIV episodic content officially now Xbox 360 exclusive thx to SCAT MONEY
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cilonen said:
I bought all of the GTAs on the PS2. However, both the double pack and San Andreas did over 1 million on the Xbox.
This game will be huge, selling better on 360 due to the larger userbase.
Fun fact: MS rolled out a 'storage required' tag (seen on newer copies of FFXI) for boxart that GTA IV could potentially utilize. It's also different from the 'HDD required' one on Football Manager 2006, as it also has a memory card pictured, despite FFXI needing a HDD.
Fun fact: MS rolled out a 'storage required' tag (seen on newer copies of FFXI) for boxart that GTA IV could potentially utilize. It's also different from the 'HDD required' one on Football Manager 2006, as it also has a memory card pictured, despite FFXI needing a HDD.
Steverulez
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Barnolde... got a picture of the new "storage required" picture?
Bearillusion
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A funny discussion when you consider the soon to be leader of this generation isn't getting GTA at all.
I don't understand whats so important about the content to pay so much for it to be exclusive. Not just that but it has me thinking did rockstar orginally mean to include the content into the game as a whole. Or is it something they made up just for ms?. And like I said before does it directly link into the game?.DSN2K said:
davepoobond said:
Well Halo 2 is still being played online. So the content isn't really the issue here. I've only played Resistance single player one time through (don't know how many hours that is), but I've easily put in 50 or so hours into the online portion. I'm sure many people already put days into the Halo 3 beta, and will only put in 15 or so for the single player portion.
BrokenSymmetry
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You can see the "storage required" icon on this box:
This icon depicts a memory unit and a hard drive. Can FFXI be played with just a memory unit? Or do you need both?
This icon depicts a memory unit and a hard drive. Can FFXI be played with just a memory unit? Or do you need both?
Pope Benedict XVI
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DSN2K said:
Well this deal was done back in 2006 before the launch of the PS3. Now I know that everyone on neogaf totally expected everything to turn out just like it did, but MS and Take Two probably didn't. If they had then MS perhaps could've gotten more for their money.
Pope Benedict XVI said:
Well if we could see into the future things would obviously be different but you cant..
All thats for sure is when GTA4 episode 1 launches in March 2008 and even more so when episode 2 comes out in Q3 2008 online content for this game will be even more important people will be looking for more content for the game espeically due to the online coop modes
People seem to forget a GTA game has never launched day and date on a platform other than sony couple this with the episodic content in 2008 and its a big deal
To put things into perspective sony loses around $50m on each 250,000 PS3 consoles sold so who is more foolish....
Christopher
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The ONLY way I can see this being actually worth while for Microsoft is if they make the exlusive content for GOLD members only
AT LEAST a million would download the content or register/re-register
if not it's not like the PS3 version would outsell it at all....I mean wow at that money.
AT LEAST a million would download the content or register/re-register
if not it's not like the PS3 version would outsell it at all....I mean wow at that money.
UntoldDreams
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lockload said:
Dude. Don't open that can. Microsoft has lost a ton on their hardware...
Besides... I see no way for Microsoft to get $50 million dollars back out of this without charging quite a bit for downloadable content.
See... I don't see this being used as a "gift" to gold members at all. I see it more as a "past strategic move" just in case they couldn't get the hardcore market.
Well, they have already gotten the hardcore market. Now they have stated they want to expand to the casual/female/elderly market. $50 million on GTA will provide them little to advance that agenda.
I bet they charge quite a bit for it. And people will buy it too.
HocusPocus
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The investment into GTA is a great move by Microsoft, and you'll all see. This is what the casuals have been waiting for on next gen. If you're a huge fan of GTA you can get into the next gen hardware cheaper on the 360 than you can on the PS3, and you also have the option to buy additional content which you can't get on the PS3. I don't see how in the world this is a bad move by Microsoft (even if they lost half the money they invested). It's a system seller move, and about the best they could get at the time since Take Two wasn't going to give them an exclusive window.
Sho_Nuff82
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Bearillusion said:
Manhunt 2 is a litmus test. If it sells 500k plus, expect there to be a Wii version or port of GTA (and likely, Bully and Table Tennis) sometime next year. It's obvious that Rockstar doesn't have the same qualms about Nintendo's userbase as they did about the GCN's.
It's clear now that MS' somewhat overreacted to the PS3's incoming threat in the West. They've made every move in the last 12 months soley to bury the PS3. But before E3 last year, wasn't that the smart move? Doing everything possible to make sure the biggest 3rd party game of 2007 wasn't PS3 exclusive for 6 months (or even one day), and actually leveraging that further into a partial 360 exclusive probably seemed like the best idea to stay competitive in the face of Sony's onslaught this fall that was supposed to consist of GT5, Final Fantasy XIII, Devil May Cry 4, Assassin's Creed, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Unreal Tournament 3.
It's only now in hindsight that it seems like overkill.
If GTAIV sells 5 million on 360 at $60-$90, and each Episode is as large as a PSP "Story" game and sells 1 million each at $30, MS will make their money back just on licensing. It's a huge gamble but one that may yet pay off.
MrPing1000
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Announce the PC version pls Rockstar. I hope it comes quicker than the previous due toe synergy between the 360 and your typical PC setup. Still credit to them all the PC ports obviously had a nice amount of extra polish in them
speculawyer
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lockload said:
Where did this phrase "day and date" come from? It's annoying. It seems redundant and is more easily said "same day" or "same date".
Sho_Nuff82
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UntoldDreams said:
I fully expect them to be $30 each (as I posted above) looking at the precedent set by Shivering Isles.
And GTA is one of the biggest casual franchises today (and hey, so is Guitar Hero), it should do lots to increase the 360's popularity in the "one game a year crowd" provided that MS can get the price on the premium to a reasonable level.
speculawyer
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Sho_Nuff82 said:
I can see them porting over last generation GTAs but they would have to take a big axe to GTA 4 to get it to work on the Wii. In the most recent TTWO conference call, analysts ask if they could do a GTA 4 for the PS2 since the PS2 is still selling so well and has a big installed base. . . . Well here is what they said:
Michael Savner - Banc of America
But specifically as we look at the GTA release in the fall, is it too late -- is there any possibility that given the strength of PS2 hardware at some point in the future we could see a PS2 version? I think everyone agrees that its certainly going to be a hardware driver for next gen, but clearly were going to be starting from a lower point than I think people thought a year ago. So maybe just talk about any flexibility youd have going forward about porting that to an older legacy console. Ill ask that and then I have a follow-up, please.
Strauss Zelnick
Michael, it seems unlikely. Once youll see the game, youll understand why. Were taking advantage of the features of these new consoles. Its not a -- this is a brand new game. This is something that --
Benjamin Feder
Id say more than that. The guys at Rockstar are pushing the envelope on the hardware. The hardware itself is pretty impressive and we think that GTA 4 will be the cutting edge game for PS3 and for X-Box 360 and thats going to drive the gaming experience.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/38017
MrPing1000
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Defuser said:
pfft it was already there all they did was unlock it. Anyway Hot Coffee was retarded the judicial system clearly didn't understand the concept that to access it you had to purposely unlock it.
speculawyer
Member
MrPing1000 said:
Well, the ESRB played it real conservative and hung them out to dry. They decided that hidden content which cannot be accessed w/o violating the end-user license agreement should be considered in the ratings. Developers better make sure they keep their gold masters clean of all other code.
Of course, the developers kinda should have known this considering the EA South Park debacle.
MrPing1000 said:
I don't get the 'synergy between the 360 and your typical PC setup' thing. Are we talking development environment?
Most PC's don't run on 3 core Power PC derived chips. I'm not trying to be snippy, I guess it must be dev environment and tools, but I thought any leverage-able synergy between the PC and the Xbox ended with Xbox 1's architecture.
Rabid Wolverine
Member
Cant wait to hear the pricing for the DLC. A new milestone in pricing.
speculawyer
Member
cilonen said:
Yes, MSFT has gone to great lengths to make a nice development environment (XNA) that works for both PCs and the xbox 360.
Big studios like Rockstar aren't using XNA and developing more down to the metal on the 360.speculawyer said:
XNA is sweet nonetheless
But yeah developing on PC and 360 is relatively easy, especially when you set 2007 and 2008 PCs as your target platform for PC side of things.
MrPing1000
Member
cilonen said:
I guess your right, but it's closer to the PC than the playstation 2 was which is where the 3 previous 3d games originated before being ported to PC
I wonder if MS just pony'ed up 50 million for this and Rockstar gets to keep the amount they charge for the content. (For instance if it's a 10/20 dollar expansion pack)
Or if MS did this to help Rockstar out why they were going through some financial problems/angry shareholders. Maybe Like MS gave them 50 million up front to produce the exclusive content, but MS charges for it on MP and keeps all the money.
Or if MS did this to help Rockstar out why they were going through some financial problems/angry shareholders. Maybe Like MS gave them 50 million up front to produce the exclusive content, but MS charges for it on MP and keeps all the money.
HocusPocus said:
bollocks. The 'casuals' aren't in the market for a $400 console, simple as that. Doesn't matter what games come out for it.
They'll buy games for the consoles that they can afford. But for now, both 360 and PS3 are not on the radar of the real mass market casual gamers.
and any one game will not change that.
DSN2K said:
Stupid? It's not about sales, it's about the Xbox BRAND.
This, combined with the lower pricepoint of the console, will potentially make 360 the primary console for the GTA series.
That's huge.
A complete shift from last generation. In the US there is no more culturally revered, or mainstream title as Grand Theft Auto.
For MS to not only take the exclsuive away from Sony, but to make their console the primary one for this game is a huge success.
The only thing that could make this a mistake is if GTA4 sucks, which is pretty hard to imagine.
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