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[llien]

An example of fake guardian headline that some people on the internet took for real (I wish I could not say the same about most of the satirical guardian headlines):

Guardian News and Media has now issued a take down notice through solicitors Bristows LLP to the web hosting provider for the guardianmeme.com website, which produced the headlines.

Users of the website were able to write their own headlines in the Guardian style and select the byline of a number of Guardian and Observer journalists, complete with real byline pictures.

Guardian's legal angle is that photos of its journalists and "contributors" are copyrighted.

Guardian takes legal action to shut down parody headline generator

The publisher of the Guardian has taken legal action to shut down a parody headline generator which it claims has infringed its copyright.

www.pressgazette.co.uk

Honorable mention (banned for a while):

And if you wonder, why Guaridan, welp, here is an example of an actual article:

 

[Burger]

These sorts of things are used less for fun, and more for targeted hate. So good.

 

[Kadayi]

Get fucked Guardian you bunch of sanctimonious pricks.

 

[MrS]

Hate Owen Jones. Horrible little cunt.

 

[SurprisedPikachu]

Isn’t this fair use and protected under parody laws? I don’t think they can do that and I am not a lawyer.

 

[Thing on a Spring]

If their team of "journalists" werent such utterly humourless spastics, they wouldn't have to suffer the warranted ridicule in the first place.

 

[B-universe]

These sorts of things are used less for fun, and more for targeted hate. So good.

Yes, "targeted" "hate" speech justifies everything.
It even has you welcoming censorious behaviour with a straight face.

If I say that the Guardian amounts to "hate Speech" when it criticizes or uses humour can I get it closed down as well?
No?
Oh, I see.
The cowardly trick only works for the kind of sites you happen to dislike.

 

[Stilton Disco]

The Guardian has been taken over by hateful, ideologically driven cultists that just want to tear everything down and divide people.

The fact these obviously ridiculous memes can so easily be taken as real is just proof of what total bollocks they print on a daily basis.

I hope the court throws this petty bit of thin skinned spite our. It's satire, and very accurate satire at that.

 

[John Mullins]

At least the Guardian's progressive SJW BS is driven mainly by opinion pieces. With tabloids their agenda is woven into the fabric.

"Dividing people" is something tabloids do just as bad though, if not more, they galvanize half wits with inaccurate stories and biased reporting.

They are two sides of the same coin.

 

[cormack12]

Isn’t this fair use and protected under parody laws? I don’t think they can do that and I am not a lawyer.

That was my first thought too

UK Copyright Law, implementing the EU Copyright Directive, provides an exception to copyright ‘for the purposes of caricature, parody or pastiche’. This means that in principle it is possible to create parodies that re-use works protected by copyright without having to obtain permission from the rightsholders. However, it is important to note that the use of copyright works for parody purposes is only allowed insofar as it can be considered ‘fair dealing’.

According to the UK government, under this copyright exception, ‘a comedian may use a few lines from a film or song for a parody sketch; a cartoonist may reference a well known artwork or illustration for a caricature; an artist may use small fragments from a range of films to compose a larger pastiche artwork’; whereas ‘it would not be considered “fair” to use an entire musical track on a spoof video’.

Another important element of the legislation is that contractual terms seeking to prevent or restrict the making of parodies permitted under this exception are ‘unenforceable’ in law. In other words, the parody exception cannot be overridden by contract. This means that you may still be able to make a parody of something, even if other terms and conditions imposed by a platform owner or publisher would otherwise restrict your use of the underlying source material.

There's loads of other shit to read though as well that this could fall under...

For example, a parody of a fashion magazine that copied the cover pixel-for-pixel and simply added a moustache to the model, might be found to take too much of the original work and therefore be infringing. A parody that evoked a fashion magazine cover without using the same text, typeface, or photograph of the original magazine is unlikely to be found infringing. In no case is it acceptable to copy something in near entirety and use parody as an excuse – the spirit of parody is the creation of new work and social commentary.

Another thing that UK courts will consider when evaluating whether an unlicensed parody is infringing is the potential for economic harm to the original rightsholder as a result of the new parody

Let's be real. This is just because people can't take having their views and shit articles laughed at. Same as twitter and everyone else who just wants to post a blog and only hear about how great it is.

 

[Burger]

Wow neogaf has really tilted over to the right eh?

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

 

[cormack12]

Wow neogaf has really tilted over to the right eh?

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

And if you were legit, you'd know we call it the Torygraph or the Dacre Times.

 

[Squirrel Killer]

Wow neogaf has really tilted over to the right eh?

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

Are they suing parodies too?

 

[Scotty W]

Great news! Cannot wait to see the Streisland effect in full swing!

 

[V4skunk]

That Owen Jones got his head slapped off a few months back while out drinking on a night out lol.

 

[Cunth]

Wow neogaf has really tilted over to the right eh?

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Wow neogaf has really tilted over to the right eh?

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

Common sense and humor is right?

 

[Phunkydiabetic]

These sorts of things are used less for fun, and more for targeted hate. So good.

 

[oagboghi2]

These sorts of things are used less for fun, and more for targeted hate. So good.

Fucking

 

[cormack12]

 

[llien]

cormack12
I wonder if rules that protect parody, also apply to "parody generator".

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

Welp, look what would need to happen:

1) Someone would need to create "Times meme generator"
2) Someone should have used it long enough and somehow offended the fragile Times team
3) Times should have decided to sue that hate speech (hate as in "speech that I hate")

Let us know, once any of the 3 takes place.

 

[Kadayi]

Wow neogaf has really tilted over to the right eh?

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

Please, I'm about as central as they come, but I've read enough BS from the guardian over the years to realise they've been huffing their own farts for quite some time from the comfort of N1 , London.

 

[B-universe]

Wow neogaf has really tilted over to the right eh?

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

Do you miss the good old days when your opinions won by default, as any opposition was met with bans?

I certainly can see you fawning over that kind of dictatorial moderation. How else would you be able to win an argument, right? Certainly not with the usual calibre of your posts.

That would be perfectly in line with your authoritarian desire to outlaw taking the piss at the Guardian.

GAF didn't tilt. Left-leaning people are just as free to post as right-leaning people.

That you would frame the ability to express a diverse range of opinions as tilting right is what's most revealing here.

 

[Burger]

Wow doesn't take much to trigger all the crazies.

 

[Cunth]

Wow. Yikes.

 

[Hudo]

Why would the Guardian sue one of its best employees?

 

[Nymphae]

Can't they just change it to free images of randos and use random names, keeping the structure and design the same? Hilarious shit all around, the generator and the attempts to shut it down.

 

[Mahadev]

Wow neogaf has really tilted over to the right eh?

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

Let's be real, neogaf HAS tilted to the right but most of the things posted here aren't pro-rightwing, more like anti-woke lunacy. This includes this thread, if you're actual left you wouldn't support corporate media abusing copyright laws to bully individuals and restrict their speech. Same applies to internet freedom that the "left" is staunchly against the last few years supporting tech corps takeover of the internet. I'm a socialist that believes in rationality, democracy and facts and feel more at home here than woke shitholes like resetera or reddit. Yeah, I disagree with many people here especially when it comes to rightwing identity politics like abortion and their short-sighted economic policies but at least I can disagree with them.

 

[Burger]

Let's be real, neogaf HAS tilted to the right but most of the things posted here aren't pro-rightwing, more like anti-woke lunacy. This includes this thread, if you're actual left you wouldn't support corporate media abusing copyright laws to bully individuals and restrict their speech. Same applies to internet freedom that the "left" is staunchly against the last few years supporting tech corps takeover of the internet. I'm a socialist that believes in rationality, democracy and facts and feel more at home here than woke shitholes like resetera or reddit. Yeah, I disagree with many people here especially when it comes to rightwing identity politics like abortion and their short-sighted economic policies but at least I can disagree with them.

The only reason I think it might be time for that 'meme' site to go (and I'm with the Guardian on this) is that the only times I've seen it being used is to create fake, provocative quotes. I've only seen them made by right wing/racist nutters, and the main outcome was twitter pile ons. I've not seen it used to make anything funny or clever. The fact that Owen Jones was stalked, harassed and assaulted in public by nazis sort of proves the point.

Sure some of the Guardian opinion pieces might be a bit fucking weird, but it's no different from any other major newspaper - and the actual real news stuff the Guardian goes after is the amongst the best in the world. This looks less like the Guardian trying to censor anyone, and more like they are trying to protect their staff.

 

[Woo-Fu]

Wow neogaf has really tilted over to the right eh?

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

TIL satire is inherently on the right side of the political spectrum

 

[supernova8]

The only reason I think it might be time for that 'meme' site to go (and I'm with the Guardian on this) is that the only times I've seen it being used is to create fake, provocative quotes. I've only seen them made by right wing/racist nutters, and the main outcome was twitter pile ons. I've not seen it used to make anything funny or clever. The fact that Owen Jones was stalked, harassed and assaulted in public by nazis sort of proves the point.

Sure some of the Guardian opinion pieces might be a bit fucking weird, but it's no different from any other major newspaper - and the actual real news stuff the Guardian goes after is the amongst the best in the world. This looks less like the Guardian trying to censor anyone, and more like they are trying to protect their staff.

(1) People having been doing that to right-wing people for years. You just take it on the chin and keep going.

(2) You don't find it funny because you have no sense of humour.

(3) What about the time when Nigel Farage was hounded (with his family) to the point he had to hide inside a pub and get police to escort him away? Or the time when he had an egg thrown in his face and then one of the people working for the national broadcaster (Jo Brand) made a 'joke' about hoping it was battery acid instead and then refused to apologise for it?

People on the left justified all of that by claiming Nigel Farage is a vile human being. I think Owen Jones is a vile human being but I wouldn't go around harassing him like that.

If we're going to allow one side to make jokes (and potentially dangerous at that) then surely it's only fair we all get a pop.

 

[Aggressive Carrot]

 

[Mod of War]

Wow neogaf has really tilted over to the right eh?

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

So do it. You have the freedom to do so here, unlike many other places.

 

[Puncheur]

It is genuinely hard to tell which ones are the parody headlines.
Instead of suing, the guardian should buy up the website and sack their headline writer to save some cash. No one will notice the difference.

 

[supernova8]

So do it. You have the freedom to do so here, unlike many other places.

Practically everyone on this thread would've been permabanned by now if it were ERA.

 

[Codswallop_]

Of course these activist hacks have zero tolerance for critical satire and want this shut down. Sad that so many on the 'left' support censorship and suppression, surely you will never be on the receiving end of this.

 

[Kadayi]

Practically everyone on this thread would've been permabanned by now if it were ERA.

I don't think there's any practical about it, I think it's a given. They'd be all.

 

[Virex]

Wow neogaf has really tilted over to the right eh?

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

 

[supernova8]

I don't think there's any practical about it, I think it's a given. They'd be all.

Yeah and they don't realise that by coming on the 'enemy' forum to have a dig and not getting banned proves the point about why free and open criticism/discussion (without fear of getting banned/cancelled) is important.

 

[Aggressive Carrot]

 

[Mahadev]

The only reason I think it might be time for that 'meme' site to go (and I'm with the Guardian on this) is that the only times I've seen it being used is to create fake, provocative quotes. I've only seen them made by right wing/racist nutters, and the main outcome was twitter pile ons. I've not seen it used to make anything funny or clever. The fact that Owen Jones was stalked, harassed and assaulted in public by nazis sort of proves the point.

Sure some of the Guardian opinion pieces might be a bit fucking weird, but it's no different from any other major newspaper - and the actual real news stuff the Guardian goes after is the amongst the best in the world. This looks less like the Guardian trying to censor anyone, and more like they are trying to protect their staff.

A satirical/comedy site makes up fake, provocative quotes? SHOCKING! And even if it wasn't satirical why are you do eager to restrict speech of anyone just for being provocative or writing something that according to you is fake? Because I assume this standard applies to everything else too and you want to censor them too, right? Cumtown for example, a satirical leftwing podcast that is highly provocative and offensive, ban them too, right?

Also it should be noted you're not the arbitrator of humor, it might not be funny to you but it is to many other people, you're will not and cannot dictate what is supposed to be "funny or clever". I would also like receipts of that harassment, a lot of people receive "harassment" yet only pretentious liberals/neolibs seem to whine about it to enforce their talking point or justify mass censorship.

Last but not least the Guardian is complete garbage, it used to be a respectable investigative newspaper and now it has been taken over by British intelligence services (in case you don't know about that you really need to read about what happened to the Guardian after the Snowden leaks and how the spooks bullied them into submission) to only serve sensationalist idpol garbage to the public in order to divide and distract. Gee, I wonder who benefits from all that.

 

[Mahadev]

Practically everyone on this thread would've been permabanned by now if it were ERA.

Oh c'mon, that's just wrong. Burger wouldn't have been banned.

 

[Mistake]

These sorts of things are used less for fun, and more for targeted hate. So good.

 

[Cockles & Whelks]

Brilliant. Owen Jones is a pious little twat knobhead who deserves to be parodied to infinity.

 

[Spukc]

Sorry for being a white male guys

 

[Raven117]

Wow neogaf has really tilted over to the right eh?

You could obvs post any of the weird shit from the nutters at the Telegraph and Times and it would be just as shite.

Then join in the conversation and tell everybody what you think about it. You wont be banned for "concern trolling, history of derailing sensitive topics." And perhaps lighten up. You can have some fun here.

 

[newtypepilot]

instead of suing a meme site, maybe they should just focus on journalism, something they are supposed to be doing?

 

[bender]

Hurt my feelings and I lawyer up.



You meme, I sue.

 

[Burger]

A satirical/comedy site makes up fake, provocative quotes? SHOCKING! And even if it wasn't satirical why are you do eager to restrict speech of anyone just for being provocative or writing something that according to you is fake? Because I assume this standard applies to everything else too and you want to censor them too, right? Cumtown for example, a satirical leftwing podcast that is highly provocative and offensive, ban them too, right?

Also it should be noted you're not the arbitrator of humor, it might not be funny to you but it is to many other people, you're will not and cannot dictate what is supposed to be "funny or clever". I would also like receipts of that harassment, a lot of people receive "harassment" yet only pretentious liberals/neolibs seem to whine about it to enforce their talking point or justify mass censorship.

Last but not least the Guardian is complete garbage, it used to be a respectable investigative newspaper and now it has been taken over by British intelligence services (in case you don't know about that you really need to read about what happened to the Guardian after the Snowden leaks and how the spooks bullied them into submission) to only serve sensationalist idpol garbage to the public in order to divide and distract. Gee, I wonder who benefits from all that.

Here are some receipts. Owen Jones in particular claims that a high proportion of the death threats he receives are due to these fake headlines being spread by racists. Show me where the comedy/satire is? Can you see it?

To finish off such a fine counter argument with a load of Alex Jones style conspiracy nonsense is a bit of a self own is it not? If not the Guardian pray tell where I can get the real truth from? The Sunday Sport?

 

[AV]

Wow doesn't take much to trigger all the crazies.

You think it's good that someone can be sued for what amounts to a Photoshop template and we're supposed to believe you're not crazy?