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kittens
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I don't agree. I think ADS in general clutters the screen and feels claustrophobic. But hopefully Halo does it well. I'm open to it.
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Halo 5 beta preview [Game revolution] [Update: Big Screens]
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oflaherty01
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Round 2 of yesterday's thread. Lets not start until we see how it actually works in game.
Cynn
Member
I understand your viewpoint on it. Technically though Halo came at a time when most shooters did the crosshair screen. It was standard when they implemented it. COD has since made ADS the common standard.
The poster relating it to viewpoints in a racer has the right idea. I always race with the in dash/cockpit view selected. Most of my friends do the chase cam. They say chase cam gives them a larger field of view. I get a better sense of presence from the dash view and perform better with it. The car meanwhile has zero change in physics no matter how we look at it. If H5 allows both views then I see nothing wrong with that.
The bigger issue here I think is that Halo fans feel like every shooter today is molded after COD and Halo should be unique. That's not untrue. As a serious Battlefield player I saw my own series get a COD makeover. If 343 allows the old view to remain in addition to ADS I can't see a problem with it though.
Because the change isn't made for the game to be better or more fun. It's just there because they want to cater to an audience that doesn't like Halo in the first place.
I know it's a pretty contentious thing to say, however from that leak the red dot site on the BR looks really cool.
CloudyTuba
Member
Thank you for this. I was wondering the same thing for years.
No, it's just dad.
I find that that's not the case. You know, bullshots and whatnot.
BuggeryBugz
Member
So catering to a new audience to get more people to play halo and changing something cosmetic that most likely won't affect gameplay, is bad?
Miles Quaritch
Member
I'd actually be on board for something like that. Locke playing like ODST with MC playing as traditional Halo would be a pretty nice contrast between the two.
It'll be bitterly disappointing, but it's becoming pretty clear I'm no longer their target audience and as sad as that is, I just have to accept it and move on.
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Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
thats a real lazy ground texture is it even a texture lol
Keep in mind some of us use to love halo.... Alot...
We were just introduced to a more enjoyable play style (our opinion)
Give us ads with no hip fire penalty and then everyone will be happy. Me aiming down the sights should not effect you, shoot me from the hip from across the map it's all good I should be easy prey
I think it's one if the forge palettes. Set inside the infinity as a training facility for Spartan IVs. But I could just be overly optimistic.
Twilight Gap
Member
reminds me of one of my favorite levels from Star Fox Assault.
I hope this game is good
i don't like that they put it on top of the platforms. It looks cool but it seems like it'd be difficult to distinguish elevated geometry from the floor.
I hope this game is good
i don't like that they put it on top of the platforms. It looks cool but it seems like it'd be difficult to distinguish elevated geometry from the floor.
It is also an arena style shooter so... Graphics will definitely get better. I hope we at least get some sick executions.
No vast distances to worry about and maybe 5v5. 343 has the talent to push those polys. I owned a 360 and before gears 3 and halo 4 it was graphically stagnant.
Thug Waffle
Member
wow that demo arena gives off this CS:S custom map/Unreal Tournament vibe and i fucking love it.
let's see how this shakes out
let's see how this shakes out
Yeah, I find ADS interferes not only with visibility (which might be by design) but also feedback clarity. In Destiny I often have to watch for numbers to pop up to make sure I killed something, as the combination of recoild and the gun model block visibility to the enemy after firing on them.
There are five Halo games demonstrating that not using ADS works very well in Halo games. Using ADS but removing movement and aim penalties seems like an attempted compromise with the CoD vs. Halo crowd; keep the movement options of the latter and the visual style of the former. A common critique of Halo 4 is that it attempted to chase the CoD crowd while still being a Halo game, while failing at both. It seems this is another crack at the same, though less egregious than say, global ordnance drops.
FaintColt388301
Member
Same. I actually like the look. It has that arcade arena style. But it looks very out of place on top of platforms. Would like to see that changed.
Thug Waffle
Member
Seems to me that ADS is a more immersive animation mechanic. As long as it functions the same as scope-in, I don't see much of an issue. If Halo were to use ADS mechanics, it would demand the player not be penalized for using it (keeping in line with its arena shooter background). That's always been my thought on it. I'm glad that 343 is willing to make that compromise since they seem so set on the mechanic.
DATABASE DATABASE
Member
For a year out, not bad at all.Can't wait to see how it looks running at 60fps with all the bells and whistles next year near launch.
Glad that I read the first 100 pages before clicking the link - such garbage reasons to subtract points. Complaining that a game called The Master Chief Collection doesn't have Reach & ODST? You hate shooters yet you're reviewing one? TOO MUCH content?
This guy actually listed having too much content as a negative point in a gaming world where DLC is pre-planned or even cut out to be sold or locked away on disc today.
Well.
I rate your review a 0 out of 5 myself.
This guy shouldn't be anywhere near Halo, he is tired of shooters
Glad that I read the first 100 pages before clicking the link - such garbage reasons to subtract points. Complaining that a game called The Master Chief Collection doesn't have Reach & ODST? You hate shooters yet you're reviewing one? TOO MUCH content?
This guy actually listed having too much content as a negative point in a gaming world where DLC is pre-planned or even cut out to be sold or locked away on disc today.
Well.
I rate your review a 0 out of 5 myself.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
What happened to it wasn't ADS? Ohhh, it is ADS.
Right.
343, we love Halo so much, we are going to change everything about it.
Right.
343, we love Halo so much, we are going to change everything about it.
Regret Upon Approval
Member
Yes.
The smart-linked optics lore held up and worked. Changing it to be more like other shooters such as CoD especially considering how H4 was perceived is only going to be seen negatively. Another go about at chasing distinct crowds.
Considering the linked optics, ADS doesn't even make sense from a lore perspective, making it all the more a questionable change.
Edit: And I don't know about it being more immersive. Or maybe there are only so many games of staring down the rifle rails the entire time before it gets utterly tedious.
Thug Waffle
Member
I understand that the ADS trend may have a lesser effect than it did when it first started popping up, but that's how humans actually operate firearms so there's really no question that it's more immersive.
I didn't think about the lore-based reasoning for scope-in. That is kind of disappointing that we'll lose out on that. ADS seems gratuitous in that context. I won't have a real solid opinion of it until I get to see the pros jam out in H5 tonight. Let's hope there are some silver linings.
Kurt Angle
Member
negativesThis guy shouldn't be anywhere near Halo, he is tired of shooters
-no odst reach
-massive time sink
so not enough content AND too much content?
Isn't this Heretic from Halo 3?looks decent
FaintColt388301
Member
Which is a remake of the Halo 2 map Midship
I still think the idea of Multiplayer taking place in Infinity as a canon part of the story or something like that is dumb. I hope it doesn't hinder them from creating nice looking maps because they want to canonize everything, ugh.
I just don't care for that synthetic look 343 has given to Halo.
I just don't care for that synthetic look 343 has given to Halo.
It didn't hinder them from creating different map designs in Halo 4, the aesthetics in 4 varied a lot.
block tower
Member
thats the most genious idea for the Halo multiplayer. it means 343i canonically can make any map from any place in the Halo universe and it "makes sense". its Spartans fighting in a simulation program of combat fields, training grounds, and alien worlds.
and very old lol
That's some GeoW 1 level graphics.
More like Halo 4.5 right guys?
Getting flashbacks to the Halo 3 beta leaks.
E3 of this year. We're 3 hours and 15 minutes away from the gameplay reveal so hold tight.
matchmaking in TMCC needs to work god dammit
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
RSB
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If ADS is only "cosmetic" (works exactly like traditional scope, but with the appearance of CoD-style ADS) then they better give us the option to use the classic scope as an alternative.
I don't want half my screen obscured by the weapon every time I use the zoom. The traditional scope looks so much better, way more elegant than that ugly ADS bullshit.
Anyway, I want to say that agree with what others have already said, the homogenization of the FPS genre is really quite sad.
I don't want half my screen obscured by the weapon every time I use the zoom. The traditional scope looks so much better, way more elegant than that ugly ADS bullshit.
Anyway, I want to say that agree with what others have already said, the homogenization of the FPS genre is really quite sad.
Also they were making it on 8 year old hardware that is far less powerful than what they are working with now.
They look like Advanced Warfare maps.
Crossing Eden
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Did people suddenly forget that this is a 2015 title that will be out in a year?
I mean seriously. Halo 5 does look good but not even remotely close to KZ:Shadowfall.
Just compare those pictures to this (a multiplayer screenshot)
Son of Sam
Banned
one month to see how this turns out, should be interesting
rokkerkory
Member
I will keep my hopes up... hopefully the beta we'll get the feedback we needed.
Darryl M R
Member
Is there suppose to be a Halo 5 video announcement tonight?
i'd like them to return, but the button timing to do them vs just a quick beat down needs to be significantly lengthened. no more accidental assassinations
Yea, during the HaloFest stuff tonight, there's supposed to be a match played from the beta content.
Yep, I agree with you. A tap should always be a melee and a hold, say 1 full second, is an execution.