Diablohead
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Halo 5: Guardians Beta Thread | Hot Red on Blue Action
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in the MCC? reset your xbox one if you have not already, as in fully power cycle it.
rumors suggest that BTB will be going larger scale. i'm super excited to see what this looks like
Diablohead
Member
Stuck on this screen when I try to play, servers bugging out?
ArchedThunder
Banned
Why do I only have recruit armor? I have the achievements for the 4 special armors...
nhlducks35
Member
Onyx 1
Diablohead
Member
agreed, allow us to pick a region 343i so we can garentee close proxy servers.
The Shogun
Banned
In celebration of the Beta / CE announcements, go to your local GameStop this week / weekend and get a nice Halo 5 poster with brand new artwork
Are those rewards for the retail game or the Beta?
It's based on the other teams ranks, if you lose to a lesser opponent, you're going to lose more points.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Welp, Halo as we know it is officially gone forever, it seems.
That's not to say Halo 5 is a bad game - my first impressions are okay - but it's certainly not the Halo of old.
In my opinion:
Halo 2 > Halo CE > Halo Reach > Halo 3 > Halo 4
Halo 2 is one of my Top Ten favorite games of all time. LOVED that game. Halo CE was a blast, and is a fantastic game; just not quite as much "fun" as it sequel. Then there's a big drop for me... I liked Reach's Invasion mode, but the maps were garbage. Halo 3 felt like a step back from Halo 2 in a lot of ways for me, and felt very "same-y," so that's why it comes in behind. And Halo 4 was a decent title, but felt too far removed from its predecessors. I hoped that would change with 5.
Nope.
Played a handful of games on each map, but there' just too much here that takes away from the core experience for me.
First off, there's way too much on the screen. It has Killzone syndrome. I have markers and arrows and bloom and dust and reflections and things moving outside windows and the illusion of speed and a visor and whatnot. I hate that. I like a very barebones HUD - and this is anything but.
Grendade spam. Grenades. Grenades.
The time to kill is way too low, especially when up against an SMG. I've gotten the drop on several people already with the SMG, and it's basically a guaranteed kill. I hate "I saw you first, so I get a guaranteed kill" gameplay. You should always have a chance to turn the tide.
Hate ADS. Hate it. Takes away from the feel of Halo. The time to get into Sniper ADS seems like AGES.
Boost is okay, I guess. Doesn't really seem to add much. It's just there. Only thing it does is frustrate, IMO.
Announcing when power weapons are coming? lol... I don't want faux choke points. It seems to unnaturally move the central battles, and I don't care for "racing" to things all the time.
Overall, though, my biggest issue is that it's just way too damn fast. This has been the gradual progression of Halo through the ages, I'm aware. But going back to Halo CE from this, and you'll immediately recall the feeling of slow, steady gameplay. Strategy. Map control. Stealthy maneuvering. The perfect sniping spot. The balanced choke points. The team work to even get to a place on the map, and then owning it.
Halo 5 already feels too much like "spawn, shoot, shoot, kill, die, repeat." I know it's popular. And I know people will like it. But, honestly, it's not for me. Makes me sad.
There's a lot that's good.
Graphics are very nice, especially for this early.
Control is as tight as ever.
Sound design is nice.
The rumble triggers feel awesome... or whatever they're called.
I like the chatter - seems a bit "bro," but it is helpful and a nice band-aid to a poor use of microphones.
343 is a very competent studio. I think it's important that I don't think they're "ruining" Halo, or that they're incapable of making what I want. They have wonderful artists and engineers and developers. But it's obvious they're not *trying* to make a Halo game similar to the original titles. It's clear they want to take it in a different direction. They want faster gameplay and more thrown at the player and a more "visceral" feel. And that's okay - there's a HUGE audience for that, and I hope it treats them well. Halo 5 might very well turn out to be an exceptional game. It just likely won't be the game that I'd have liked.
That's not to say Halo 5 is a bad game - my first impressions are okay - but it's certainly not the Halo of old.
In my opinion:
Halo 2 > Halo CE > Halo Reach > Halo 3 > Halo 4
Halo 2 is one of my Top Ten favorite games of all time. LOVED that game. Halo CE was a blast, and is a fantastic game; just not quite as much "fun" as it sequel. Then there's a big drop for me... I liked Reach's Invasion mode, but the maps were garbage. Halo 3 felt like a step back from Halo 2 in a lot of ways for me, and felt very "same-y," so that's why it comes in behind. And Halo 4 was a decent title, but felt too far removed from its predecessors. I hoped that would change with 5.
Nope.
Played a handful of games on each map, but there' just too much here that takes away from the core experience for me.
First off, there's way too much on the screen. It has Killzone syndrome. I have markers and arrows and bloom and dust and reflections and things moving outside windows and the illusion of speed and a visor and whatnot. I hate that. I like a very barebones HUD - and this is anything but.
Grendade spam. Grenades. Grenades.
The time to kill is way too low, especially when up against an SMG. I've gotten the drop on several people already with the SMG, and it's basically a guaranteed kill. I hate "I saw you first, so I get a guaranteed kill" gameplay. You should always have a chance to turn the tide.
Hate ADS. Hate it. Takes away from the feel of Halo. The time to get into Sniper ADS seems like AGES.
Boost is okay, I guess. Doesn't really seem to add much. It's just there. Only thing it does is frustrate, IMO.
Announcing when power weapons are coming? lol... I don't want faux choke points. It seems to unnaturally move the central battles, and I don't care for "racing" to things all the time.
Overall, though, my biggest issue is that it's just way too damn fast. This has been the gradual progression of Halo through the ages, I'm aware. But going back to Halo CE from this, and you'll immediately recall the feeling of slow, steady gameplay. Strategy. Map control. Stealthy maneuvering. The perfect sniping spot. The balanced choke points. The team work to even get to a place on the map, and then owning it.
Halo 5 already feels too much like "spawn, shoot, shoot, kill, die, repeat." I know it's popular. And I know people will like it. But, honestly, it's not for me. Makes me sad.
There's a lot that's good.
Graphics are very nice, especially for this early.
Control is as tight as ever.
Sound design is nice.
The rumble triggers feel awesome... or whatever they're called.
I like the chatter - seems a bit "bro," but it is helpful and a nice band-aid to a poor use of microphones.
343 is a very competent studio. I think it's important that I don't think they're "ruining" Halo, or that they're incapable of making what I want. They have wonderful artists and engineers and developers. But it's obvious they're not *trying* to make a Halo game similar to the original titles. It's clear they want to take it in a different direction. They want faster gameplay and more thrown at the player and a more "visceral" feel. And that's okay - there's a HUGE audience for that, and I hope it treats them well. Halo 5 might very well turn out to be an exceptional game. It just likely won't be the game that I'd have liked.
GringoSuave89
Banned
In celebration of the Beta / CE announcements, go to your local GameStop this week / weekend and get a nice Halo 5 poster with brand new artwork
Really? Free, or with preorder?
ArchedThunder
Banned
It's supposed to be for both.
ArchedThunder
Banned
And here I was hoping they had changed Chief's design to Mark VI Scarred...In celebration of the Beta / CE announcements, go to your local GameStop this week / weekend and get a nice Halo 5 poster with brand new artwork
FaintColt388301
Member
Is it gonna be only slayer the whole 3 weeks? Would be cool to have a oddball or ctf match mixed in.
Think there's an objective mode for week 3, but it's something new, *I think*.
Twin Tails
Member
Breakout game mode coming
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
I'm getting #rekt in the beta
dragonelite
Member
This... the game needs datacenter or region filters
Well I'll never be able to unhear it this way.
Diablohead
Member
Servers are failing all the time for me now, best time to quit for the night maybe.
Say what?
Halo CE was the fastest Halo by far. It's been steadily getting slower ever since with 4 being a slight exception.
Ok, now it randomly got fixed, strange.
Nervous Sausage
Member
Beta option is greyed out for me and I've hard reset the console. What's going on?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
not beta related but $250 Bones
Already preordered on Amazon. Can't wait to see what it includes.
blue_phazon
Member
I fucking love this game. LOVE IT! It's already more fun than previous games
MrMephistoX
Member
I like it but they really need to tone down the heavy weapon damage its unfair at this point.
Twin Tails
Member
getting lots of lag, also AR taking me out from mid/Long Range bullshit.
Twilight Gap
Member
this menu music though
Poodlestrike
Banned
Just unlocked the Recruit BRN helmet; that's some goooood shit.
(Would post pic, but phone camera only renders in barnvision).
(Would post pic, but phone camera only renders in barnvision).
Gravemind IV
Member
Just lost a game where I went 26/8, oh wow, proper matchmaking.
UnlovedJew
Member
I've played only 4 matches and it feels the most different of all the Halos in terms of core gunplay and pace. The TTK is slightly too low and the auto aim feels inconsistent across different weapons. The default control setup feels really awkward and scope really shouldn't be there on the AR. Makes gunfights feel too static with that.
Also, it feels like the base player movement should be raised, especially when compared to sprint.
Also, it feels like the base player movement should be raised, especially when compared to sprint.
Diablohead
Member
i'm in a match which feels like I have half the HP compared to the enemy team, ended 20-50
Princess Carl
Member
This loathe this sentence so much.
Twin Tails
Member
the reach statue was pretty badass.
WordsintheWater
Member
Game doesn't feel like Halo to me as it once was, but I did have fun in the games I played. Going to try and go into this and not think of Halo past.
The Shogun
Banned
No purchase required. While supplies last. Official hand out is this weekend but if you have a nice store they may give you one early.
It's great how the added maneuverability and clambering affords this fast 'n steady flow as you traverse through the maps.
All the beeping noises have to be toned down, I haven't played all that much and it's already gratin' on my nerves.
All the beeping noises have to be toned down, I haven't played all that much and it's already gratin' on my nerves.
If I were, I wouldn't be enjoying it.It's 343i Halo, stop living in the past
Twilight Gap
Member
this roster is almost as bad as the one in MCC
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Good for you, the contents will surely look good in my mancave. Hate all you want.
Yep and so was the TITANFALL statue.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Hire Juices IMO.
The Real Napsta
Member
I haven't found a single match I get errors every single time
Ascenion
Member
Yes! So goooooooood.