DynamiteCop!
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Anyone who actually watches these crapgamer level shit videos isn't worth having a conversation with.
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Halo Infinite analysis | DF was Dishonest
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The Fartist
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DUDE, we have no idea?
Say that's true, the PS3 didn't deliver 'for basically half of the generation', and we still have no idea who came out on top? Holy shit that's some next level denial.
It might be time in general to stop holding Digital foundry in such high regard, in the past few years they've moved from strictly analytical to now purely speculative, they've done this to keep up with YouTube and garner as many hits as possible. I think this is unfortunate and cheapens them completely, from analyzing to speculation by comparing pcs of equal specs which don't have the same niche level optimization as said console.
When you clicked on a DF video you knew you were getting the gospel, they were brutally honest, skewered everyone equally, showed the reasons why, and it all made sense. They only made videos when necessary, now we get some click bait hype videos from the, I guess they were immune for only so long.
As an example, they've turned a blind eye for Nintendo and started using hyperbole when talking about some of their products (Luigis Mansion looks like a Pixar movie in motion). Glazing over the Zelda GB ports framedrops in their conclusion of the video despite analyzing the issue for a good portion of said video.
The Halo video in question, really repeated the same phrases repeatedly and became redundant quickly, making most of its run time filler(as this sentence most of these words are filler).
That halo video was very apologetic about the lighting, but instead of building the case it just repeated the same phrases.
TL;CR(too long;Can't read): I used to love DF, but there's too many issues now, it's become systemic, either we need a return to form or move on.
Edit: I'm not saying this trash guy is better than DF I'm just making a point about DF no longer being infallible as they've shifted from strictly pure analysis to speculation and are allowing biases to make it into their videos. I realize this thread isn't the best place to post this, IL probably copy pasta elsewhere later.
When you clicked on a DF video you knew you were getting the gospel, they were brutally honest, skewered everyone equally, showed the reasons why, and it all made sense. They only made videos when necessary, now we get some click bait hype videos from the, I guess they were immune for only so long.
As an example, they've turned a blind eye for Nintendo and started using hyperbole when talking about some of their products (Luigis Mansion looks like a Pixar movie in motion). Glazing over the Zelda GB ports framedrops in their conclusion of the video despite analyzing the issue for a good portion of said video.
The Halo video in question, really repeated the same phrases repeatedly and became redundant quickly, making most of its run time filler(as this sentence most of these words are filler).
That halo video was very apologetic about the lighting, but instead of building the case it just repeated the same phrases.
TL;CR(too long;Can't read): I used to love DF, but there's too many issues now, it's become systemic, either we need a return to form or move on.
Edit: I'm not saying this trash guy is better than DF I'm just making a point about DF no longer being infallible as they've shifted from strictly pure analysis to speculation and are allowing biases to make it into their videos. I realize this thread isn't the best place to post this, IL probably copy pasta elsewhere later.
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DynamiteCop!
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No one outside of Sony and Microsoft know which console actually sold more, it's too close to call. You can speculate until the cows come home, but it's still completely unknown.
This is inarguable.
supernova8
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I was totally willing to watch it (everyone deserves at least one view so we can pass judgement) but I really couldn't get to the end before thinking "Nah fuck it"
supernova8
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Well given how badly Sony was losing at the start and how they pulled it back half way through, it's not crazy to speculate that they would've won if it weren't for the 'Cell processor' and the terrible pricing. It pretty much shows the power of a strong first party lineup - it can literally save you from disaster as it did with Sony.
The Fartist
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Thicc Enigma
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In a hilarious manner that riles people up
thelastword
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I post everybody's videos, KingThrash, DF, NX, VGtech. You could speak like the queen of England and if it is that you are just being dishonest and not telling the whole story it matters little to me. It's all about the analysis. KingThrash analyzed and showed me what he was saying, I understood and saw things from his videos I did not see elsewhere. Communication is about understanding, and being truthful about the content you are delivering, not spewing sweet nothings that you may want to hear, no matter how nicely said...
DynamiteCop!
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Kingthrash
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King dumbass?
Ahh.......accurate lolIn a hilarious manner that riles people up
Kingthrash
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So because I dont speak like you'd prefer its painful to you...not the actual content.....thats fair.
nowhat
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Is he though?
Kingthrash
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Woah....please tell me how I compare to crap gamer?
Gamerguy84
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That was comical AF. He did point out a lot that DF is never willing to.
jigglet
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King Trash is the epitome of console warrior. The way the motherfucker speaks
lol yeah
Kingthrash
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There is alot of info that can be obtained in a slice of gameplay
Bumblebeetuna
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Is this that clown who also had a Gears 5 video? Sounds like the same clown. Why exactly am I supposed to take his word over DF again? Some console warrior nonsense over professionals? Pass.
TheGreatWhiteShark
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I had a quick browse at that channel 
You can measure the effort by the rap song
"four point two was greater than six
no one wants an xbox no matter the services or t-flops
you can keep that little game pass we're good bro
if you ain't focused on games what you're good for? nothing!"
I'm still laughing, I give full marks for trying
You can measure the effort by the rap song
"four point two was greater than six
no one wants an xbox no matter the services or t-flops
you can keep that little game pass we're good bro
if you ain't focused on games what you're good for? nothing!"
I'm still laughing, I give full marks for trying
Bryank75
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PlayStation leadership has changed every generation... still delivered
The first Uncharted came out 2007 and the Resistance series began the year after and MGS4 came out 2008 also.... so I don't agree with them not delivering for half that gen, many people just came late. I bought mine oin 2008 but didn't really move fully from 360 to PS3 till 2010.
TheGrat1
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"People are reading too heavily into what is a tiny fraction of the game and completely disregarding everything else"
So you post a fraction of that fraction and call it "awesome".
A sizzle reel is supposed to make a game look nice but the gameplay trailer is like watching sausage get made.
This is you right now:
Kingthrash
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bitbydeath
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Sony don't dump all their games in a single holiday, this has been known for years.
Bumblebeetuna
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I had a quick browse at that channel
You can measure the effort by the rap song
"four point two was greater than six
no one wants an xbox no matter the services or t-flops
you can keep that little game pass we're good bro
if you ain't focused on games what you're good for? nothing!"
I'm still laughing, I give full marks for trying
skipped about 45 minutes into this. yikes.
like I said, clown. OP, why would you even post this
Yea they need to be shown at three E3s minimum before release.
supernova8
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You can twist it however you like. Speaking in a such a vulgar way to the point that one thinks "Wait what?" is, at least to me, akin to having bad sound quality and so yes I won't get to the end of the video to see all of your content. I saw the other video (the discussion with a few people on the video) and you were doing it there. Every fifth or sixth word was 'niggaaa' It's to the point that it is, as I said, painful to listen to.
Maybe your subscriber base likes it but yeah not for me thanks.
Entroyp
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To be fair at least they release games.
Stuart360
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A lot of pent up frustration was let out for some users when they saw Halo (and i still thought it looked good lol, but whatever), thats why they became almost tribal like with the memes and constant trolling.
Its why i left the forum for a couple of days, let them get it out of their system.
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bitbydeath
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Nah. Most of the titles they showed were announced to be out before the end of next year.
Kingthrash
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Like i said....fair enough....dont know what more you want.
My channel isnt for you, cool. I dont expect it to be for everyone...just those who know my culture or who accept my culture...you dont know or accept it and im perfectly fine with it bro...have a good evening.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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That's how Alex from DF is gonna see the final product of Halo Infinite: Too Much Lightining.
Kingthrash
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I never heard of that...they spent millions on the slipspace engine so I doubt it.
DavidGzz
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Laugh of the week.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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And they almost always deliver at the end of the day.
Kazza
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I think you need to stay away for at least a couple more days, because judging by the endless Halo/Xbox threads they are obviously far from finished
. Personally, I'd give it a week if I were you.grfunkulus
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I'm inclined to give credence to an alternate explanation. Also, DF defends BOTH Sony and MS at different times. You think it's in THEIR best interest to bash things? Lets not be stupid here. They were properly critical but not overly harsh. It's the only way they'll preserve access. If the build was 4 months old as the below video alleges, AND running on mid-range PC hardware, I'm not worried that there will be enough of an improvement by launch to satisfy my FPS itch if I were to buy a Series X. It's a cross-gen game. Anyone expecting it to be a Gears of War transformative moment for not just the console, but the industry as a whole, was deluded.
Knitted Knight
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Summary:
No shadows under NPCs, including Chief. No shadows under plasma grenade (shadow inconsistency/lack-off everywhere).
Texture/object pop-in everywhere (far away and close), not just lighting reflection lag.
Lack of reflections on muzzle flash. Lack of muzzle flash effect but yet gun displays reflections. Reflection glitches everywhere basically.
Static environments - no dynamism on trees, wind etc on troop carriers. World feels lifeless.
No windshield shading (Ship getting shot point blank but no cracks/effects or any sort of damage to the ship's hull while the scene plays out - just crappy "shaking"). I might add: crappy dialogue that doesn't sell aka poor script/voice acting. Facial animation is off too (aka get better mocap).
No bullet shading on armor of enemies getting shot.
Crappy animations - lack of detail and delayed reactions.
No animation reaction on naded' enemies compared to past Halo's. Enemy AI simply dumbed down.
Grappling hook poorly showcased with the level/encounter design (could have been better).
Poor particle effects/FX on plasma grenades compared to past Halo's.
No scorch marks - lack of shading for after effects of fire/grenade explosions on grass/environments.
Character models lack detail. Animations don't sell the emotion.
Conclusion: Looks like a current gen game missing last gen details. Digital foundry damage controlled by focusing on lighting and wasn't anywhere near thorough enough in pointing out the problems with the game.
Should update OP with this to avoid more driveby's.
A better, more technical eye could, without a doubt, spot even more issues and explain them better.
No shadows under NPCs, including Chief. No shadows under plasma grenade (shadow inconsistency/lack-off everywhere).
Texture/object pop-in everywhere (far away and close), not just lighting reflection lag.
Lack of reflections on muzzle flash. Lack of muzzle flash effect but yet gun displays reflections. Reflection glitches everywhere basically.
Static environments - no dynamism on trees, wind etc on troop carriers. World feels lifeless.
No windshield shading (Ship getting shot point blank but no cracks/effects or any sort of damage to the ship's hull while the scene plays out - just crappy "shaking"). I might add: crappy dialogue that doesn't sell aka poor script/voice acting. Facial animation is off too (aka get better mocap).
No bullet shading on armor of enemies getting shot.
Crappy animations - lack of detail and delayed reactions.
No animation reaction on naded' enemies compared to past Halo's. Enemy AI simply dumbed down.
Grappling hook poorly showcased with the level/encounter design (could have been better).
Poor particle effects/FX on plasma grenades compared to past Halo's.
No scorch marks - lack of shading for after effects of fire/grenade explosions on grass/environments.
Character models lack detail. Animations don't sell the emotion.
Conclusion: Looks like a current gen game missing last gen details. Digital foundry damage controlled by focusing on lighting and wasn't anywhere near thorough enough in pointing out the problems with the game.
Should update OP with this to avoid more driveby's.
A better, more technical eye could, without a doubt, spot even more issues and explain them better.
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If by week you mean until the end of the year sure. This one will be dragged up daily with some click bait or "new" opinion why halo sucks. Or the daily this is why Microsoft sucks thread.I think you need to stay away for at least a couple more days, because judging by the endless Halo/Xbox threads they are obviously far from finished
GreyHand23
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If you watch the video you'll see that the game is missing things that most games have had since the Xbox 360 even. He pointed out so many things and compared directly to all the other Halo games as evidence. I think he obviously has a preference for Sony, but this was an objective look at the game imo and Digital Foundry should be ashamed.
Kingthrash
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Whole video in word form...well done!
Kingthrash
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Wait, what? Lol you know...if you ask about things you don't understand, you might understand them.
Especially if you clam im a racial person.
Fact is you are ignorant to what I'm saying, but assume what i say is a racial slur.
Would you like ro know what im saying? or will you continue to think im saying a racial slur, that apparently you'd like to say so bad that you think its a double standard?
I suggest educating yourself like I do with other cultures. Its never safe to assume.
MaxwellParrish
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Will they ? ... because it's like 4 months from the launch and It seems that even Xbox exclusive are unable to run in any capacity on XSX hardware...
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LarknThe4th
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What's funny is I watched the video, you made some points about visual details and such i wouldn't catch, I dont really care about graphics as long as the hairstyle is creative in some way, so obviously i dont really agree with the theme I guess of the video overall
But you have been very gracious to everybody in here when you really didn't have to be, so I hope you keep at making videos, you put a lot of effort in so good luck with it dude
SupremeHoodie
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PS3 sold 10 million units in japan. Xbox sold like 1 million. Who cares if PlayStation outsells. lol There is a whole fucking country that only buys PlayStation consoles even when the competitor made quality games.The fact that the PS3 didn't deliver 'for basically half of the generation' and still outsold the 360 in the end means you need to shut the fuck up and rethink your statement
MaxwellParrish
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The first Resistance was a launch title in 2006
The Fartist
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Yeah, and somehow, Microsoft didn't get the memo.
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