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Halo Infinite graphical comparison 2020 2021
- Thread starter Iced Arcade
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The screens with the more detailed looking textures are after.
(The last demo received criticism primarily for its graphics during the single player gameplay, not the cutscenes. It's not clear to me how we would expect to see huge improvements in something that was never shown)
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IDappa
Member
I was very impressed by FH5 when that was shown and while I agree they should be striving for a higher fidelity and feel there's plenty of room for improvement, saying that there is no improvement like you have is absolutely ludicrous. I would say if you truly believe there is no change between the two showings you should get some glasses or if you have some already get new ones.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I always thought the game looked pretty good for a title targeting 60 fps on base xbox one, so I'm probably an outlier.
Looking at the gun model comparisons being shared around the Internet and it's a huge improvement that I didn't know I wanted. I'll take it. I just can't wait to play the damned thing.
Looking at the gun model comparisons being shared around the Internet and it's a huge improvement that I didn't know I wanted. I'll take it. I just can't wait to play the damned thing.
Negotiator101
Member
Nonsense.
Negotiator101
Member
Of course the campaign is 60fps the MP 120fps. What they showed of the campaign looked impressive, but it's still got another 4 months of development time, it will improve again.
GTFO here those textures are a MASSIVE improvement. Lighting is marginal.
Robb
Gold Member
This all looks good but what I'd really like to see is the main enemy again. The models for the enemies was the main thing that really stood out as bad to me in the orginal reveal.
The guy that came out of the hologram and was shown in a close-up had very plain textures and teeth that looked like plastic.
The guy that came out of the hologram and was shown in a close-up had very plain textures and teeth that looked like plastic.
shubik
Member
It does look better. Lighting seems to be improved. Texture quality as well. But they also changed the color palette. So it´s kind of hard to tell.
That being said: I thought it was kind of weird to show so little new gameplay of the campaign after all the negative feedback. I have the feeling that although it will be improved, it will not be a looker as people hoped it would be.
Judging based on SONY´s cross-gen titles so far, I have to say that I was much more impressed by Miles Morales and Horizon 2. Sure those are vastly different games but I still feel like you could do more with Halo...
That being said: I thought it was kind of weird to show so little new gameplay of the campaign after all the negative feedback. I have the feeling that although it will be improved, it will not be a looker as people hoped it would be.
Judging based on SONY´s cross-gen titles so far, I have to say that I was much more impressed by Miles Morales and Horizon 2. Sure those are vastly different games but I still feel like you could do more with Halo...
Helghan
Member
It's not so weird. Halo always has had their own huge marketing campaigns to share new information, specifically for the SP campaign. They don't necessarily need E3 for this. So I think it's normal that they chose to focus on MP.
shubik
Member
Sure, could be. I just thought that you want to show a little bit of after you received such backlash.
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Maybe first you should stop overlooking the fact that single player is in 60 fps and the multiplayer is in 120 fps. There is no "120 fps performance mode".
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Sony
Nintendo
I'm quite excited about Halo: Infinite. The gameplay look great and the visuals in the multiplayer overview video were an improvement over the 2020 demo.
However, this graphics comparison is pointless.
- The 2020 demo was a real-time cutscene that transitioned into gameplay
- The 2021 flyover was labeled in-engine and the Master Chief sequence had no label at all, so we don't now if it's gameplay.
One of the ways to do this is to keep the environmental geometry compexity simple, while increasing the texture quality and lighting.
That way they can cater to different people, randing from low-end PC/base Xbox One all the way to High end PC/ Series X.
People need to accept the fact that Halo: Infinite was never going be and never will be top of the line graphically, the target audience is way too broad for that.
However, this graphics comparison is pointless.
- The 2020 demo was a real-time cutscene that transitioned into gameplay
- The 2021 flyover was labeled in-engine and the Master Chief sequence had no label at all, so we don't now if it's gameplay.
Infinite will we a service game, the developers have confirmed that. A lot of people are overlooking the fact that they want to reach a broad audience.
One of the ways to do this is to keep the environmental geometry compexity simple, while increasing the texture quality and lighting.
That way they can cater to different people, randing from low-end PC/base Xbox One all the way to High end PC/ Series X.
People need to accept the fact that Halo: Infinite was never going be and never will be top of the line graphically, the target audience is way too broad for that.
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Derktron
Banned
Interfectum
Member
Razvedka
Banned
Well, I'd counterpoint that this follows the trend for all cross-gen titles.
That said, I think this looks pretty solid. I'm not sure how I'd stack it up against that initial tech teaser with the warthog, though. I'd need to rewatch both.
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AJUMP23
Gold Member
They got rid of the pesky trees and greenspace.That alone shows
Dust-by-Monday
Member
Different lighting conditions. Put that gun in the same light as the original and see how it looks.
ResilientBanana
Member
Joking, right?
AJUMP23
Gold Member
Yes. Trees are great. Greenspace though......verdict is still out.
Wandering Leopard
Member
It's definitely improved, arguing by how much is up for debate until they show more of the campaign; people should remember devs will have to make tradeoffs if they target up-to 4k / 60 in a (pseudo) open world game.
The key thing is that the multiplayer looked fun.
The key thing is that the multiplayer looked fun.
Mister Wolf
Member
The only game this can be fairly compared to is Assassin's Creed Valhalla. Both open world, same performance target, same systems supported including PC day one.
ResilientBanana
Member
I'd say the draw distance, LOD, and overall presentation is much better.
E3 2021
E3 2020
To think, they even have 4-5 more months to polish it.
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you damn right, fucking game doesn't look like a flagship console seller
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
If they missed the console launch for these minimal graphical upgrades than it did not seem worth it to me. Anyway graphics aren’t key to Halo they’re only intriguing it’s a gameplay first game.
TheGodfather07
Member
halo infinte isnt meant to be graphics powerhouse. it never really was. its more about how fun it felt to play and the multiplayer.
Leyasu
Banned
The game certainly ain't a looker and I still think that they will push it out the door then release an XsX upgrade next year, it is without a doubt an improvement.
I can't say that I am shocked to see the same people in here saying it is just the lighting though. The same people who laughed at digital foundry when they said the lighting was bad, now all of sudden it is just the lighting...
All in all, it is clear that 343 need a massive shake up.
I can't say that I am shocked to see the same people in here saying it is just the lighting though. The same people who laughed at digital foundry when they said the lighting was bad, now all of sudden it is just the lighting...
All in all, it is clear that 343 need a massive shake up.
SafeOrAlone
Banned
Surely they've been polishing the gameplay as well.
But I think the graphical improvements are a big plus.
Bear*Walken*the*Sweeper
Member
It's like 343 Studios had to be reminded of what textures are. Better late than never.
BbMajor7th
Member
Difference is definitely appreciable and (thank god) no longer meme-able - I think in motion it'll look just fine. At the end of the day, it's targeting the OG XB1 and will (rightly) prioritise performance over pixels and post-effects. Anyone expecting this to set benchmarks for next-gen visual fidelity is asking for 343i to push a square peg through a round hole.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Textures and lighting model have been given serious attention.
Did 343 say if Ray Tracing was in for this E3?
Did 343 say if Ray Tracing was in for this E3?
01011001
Banned
That alone shows
yeah it almost looks like the AR in the reveal gameplay was missing a whole texture layer and the PBR was turned off or something lol
itsjustJEFF
Member
Much much improved. It looks way more like a next-gen game this time around. I especially liked the way the multiplayer looked, looked great. This is what happens when you're not satisfied and you say something about it. Imagine if no one said anything, the game would have released as it was last year. Granted, you weren't able to enjoy it for a year... but I think what you'll get to play this holiday season will blow away the 2020 version, not in just looks either.
Iced Arcade
Member
yeah exactly. the texture of the gun and glove
Dr Bass
Member
Yeah I do too. I remember feeling so embarrassed when the lady would come into the room when I was playing Halo 4 (skipped 5 so no idea on that one), and Cortana would be standing there basically looking like a nude robot.Looks awesome! Gonna look amazing on PC in Ultrawide!
I love the "new Cortana" too
This just looks so much more ... normal.
For the record I feel the same way about any game that does that sort of silliness. Street Fighter 6 is one of 'em too. So I like this a lot more. And no it has nothing to do with the current "political scene" and everything to do with not wanting to be perceived as a weirdo that's into that stuff.