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Halo: Infinite - No Co-op or Forge at launch
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Absolutely gutting, will have to wait 3 months for my legendary co op run.
heroic single player it is, game better be amazing.
heroic single player it is, game better be amazing.
coffinbirth
Member
How polished can it possibly be if they are STILL delaying major features and it STILL doesn't even have a release date, lol.
Stuart360
Member
From what they are saying in the video, it seems almost like the extra year has been almost a semi waste because its been a Covid year. It seems the year has been used more for polishing the stuff that was going to be ready for launch, as oppose to the year being used to get everything they want in the game ready for launch.
For me, i never played co-op campaign, but i know a lot do.
For me, i never played co-op campaign, but i know a lot do.
Interfectum
Member
Yup, slicing two major features and still no release date in sight. This sucker will be coming in mega-hot.
coffinbirth
Member
Pretty ironic, but still accurate.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
False. What's cringe is 343i shipping a Halo game without Campaign co-op, whilst simultaneously calling the feature, "fundamental to the Halo Experience" and saying how they realized, "how essential that experience of playing campaign together with your family and friends, whether network or split-screen, really is."
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Stuart360
Member
They always talked about Halo Infinite as a '10 year project' that will continue to grow other the years, a GAAS game if you like. It has nothing to do with Gamepass. Gamepass isnt litered with Early Access games.
DeepSpace5D
Member
Bummer for those who love to play in co-op, I always played the campaigns solo personally.
I’d like to see more of the campaign though myself.
I’d like to see more of the campaign though myself.
Perhaps they meant 10 years to develop project?
GHG
Member
"I think the team made a trade-off based on what they see happening in the market today and what they wanted to do with their game," Spencer explained. "I love the nostalgia of the couch co-op of what Halo did in the past, but I also know in the realities of the day with people's busy lives, it's not as easy to get everybody in the same physical place. It's one of the advantages that Xbox Live Game Pass obviously offers."
www.gamespot.com
Xbox Boss Explains Why Halo 5 Has No Split-Screen
The "vast majority" of people play co-op across Xbox Live, Phil Spencer says.
www.gamespot.com
clarky
Gold Member
Stuart360
Member
coffinbirth
Member
Hey, Dwight...relax. Dismissing a game you haven't played and you obviously won't be good at "whilst" emotionally melting down over it is, in fact, cringe.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
343 stinks. An untalented bunch with an unlimited budget, a zillion employess, and 0 good games to their credit. At least we got the MCC.
R6Rider
Gold Member
Interfectum
Member
I think the Forge delay may be slightly more disappointing. We are talking 6+ months after Infinite launch... The people interested in making maps for Forge would probably like to release their creations within the release zeitgeist for maximum feedback and exposure.
Naked Lunch
Member
Fine by me.
I usually dont even touch campaign until Ive played multiplayer to death.
My first run through Halo campaigns is done solo too - lets me absorb the story more than chatting it up with a friend.
They really cant delay this again so it looks like getting co-op running was the hang up.
I usually dont even touch campaign until Ive played multiplayer to death.
My first run through Halo campaigns is done solo too - lets me absorb the story more than chatting it up with a friend.
They really cant delay this again so it looks like getting co-op running was the hang up.
PleaseDontBanMe
Banned
I dont have any friends
online or IRL
so I dont care about co op
online or IRL
so I dont care about co op
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Never cared about co-op, sucks for people who do though.
Stuart360
Member
Dont be a part of the 'defence force' Bernd!, you have to show faux concern over this.
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
The most unproductive huge AAA studio out there right now. Their only challenger to this title is Rocksteady.
Gameplaylover
Member
It's not a 10h singeleplayer game with linear level design. Open world + campaign + pvp + coop + map editor take some time.
Genesis Knight
Member
Hey, Dwight...relax. Dismissing a game you haven't played and you obviously won't be good at "whilst" emotionally melting down over it is, in fact, cringe.
lol @ calling out a guy for saying whilst
for some reason this is so petty it cracks me up
Edit: "and you obviously won't be good at" lmao
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Captain Toad
Banned
Goodness gracious. After a full year delay at the last minute, it's still not ready?
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Well with GamePass, I guess it's easier (cheaper) to get the online co-op....but then again Infinite does not even have one, so.... Sort of does not work what he said."I think the team made a trade-off based on what they see happening in the market today and what they wanted to do with their game," Spencer explained. "I love the nostalgia ofthecouchco-op of what Halo did in the past, but I also know in the realities of the day with people's busy lives, it's not as easy to get everybody in the samephysicalplace. It's one of the advantages that XboxLiveGame Pass obviously offers."
Xbox Boss Explains Why Halo 5 Has No Split-Screen
The "vast majority" of people play co-op across Xbox Live, Phil Spencer says.
Banjo64
Just because one game sucks, does not mean that other have too. I mean, 343 so far, has really prove them selves with diversity(of problems)I wonder if people laughing at OP also laughed at Factions for… well, not even having a release date yet
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HoodWinked
Member
343i is such a garbage studio.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I couldnt care less about Halo coop.
But I did play Halo 3 and Reach coop from start to finish lol. It's pretty insane that they had a year long delay and still couldnt get such a crucial mode in at launch.
That said, I was worried they were not going to be able to release the campaign this year since we havent seen anything from the campaign since the Craig demo. So this couldve been worse.
But I did play Halo 3 and Reach coop from start to finish lol. It's pretty insane that they had a year long delay and still couldnt get such a crucial mode in at launch.
That said, I was worried they were not going to be able to release the campaign this year since we havent seen anything from the campaign since the Craig demo. So this couldve been worse.
Interfectum
Member
Halo has been made and remade like 8 times over. The template is there as was 5+ years and $100+ million. They also had to bribe original devs to come back to help.
There is no doubt the hammer is down on 343 right now with 'release in 2021 or bye bye studio' as MS doesn't want to release yet another round of Halo Infinite merch with no game.
kyoji
Member
with the next gen visuals, ray tracing shown off like never before and the power of game pass youre right it needs 10 years easy to complete such an ambitious project
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
As long as the single-player and present MP options are slick & polished (and the SP meaty enough), I don't see too much an issue here. SP & the main MP modes are the most pertinent for launch, the others can come in a timely fashion via roadmap.
Quality over quantity, basically.
Quality over quantity, basically.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
That was my honest take on it. But man, people are pissed in here lol.
That review thread is going to have a body count. People have the knives ready.
Gameplaylover
Member
Hell yeah, can't wait for the review thread. Will be more entertaining than the cinema this year and accounts will die.
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DeceptiveAlarm
Gold Member
Doesn't make a difference to me. Is this no coop at all or just couch coop?
Roberts
Member
If a game has co-op, I’m sure as hell will play it sooner or later with friends, but my first playthrough is always solo, so personally it‘s not a big deal for me, but I feel bad for those of you who cant live without co-op. Also, It will most likely impact review scores which is not great.
That said, I understand the difficulty of trying to make a huge game during motherfuckin covid times. Cant really blame them.
That said, I understand the difficulty of trying to make a huge game during motherfuckin covid times. Cant really blame them.
kyoji
Member
whoa, man chill. thats taking it a bit far i think, dont underestimate the power of game pass, even the shittiest of games get +10 user points higher score, its incredible value so itll be fine no worries.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Seems typical at this point for major AAA releases, but especially so for Halo Infinite given the circus last year with Craig and whatnot.
Like, the game needed a delay for quality polish. That obviously meant everything, but especially the story campaign and base MP modes. I never honestly thought they'd have all the big content ready Day 1 at a level of polish the base MP and (I'd assume) the single-player campaign are at given what's been shown lately.
And that's okay. Should still be a lot of content with even that at least for the first few months. But most importantly the quality and polish need to be top-notch there, that first impression at release will mean everything. If the campaign in particular is very strong with the story, plot, characters, set-pieces and gameplay loop, scenarios etc. that'll take the game a long way during its lifespan.
Maybe you should go see the actual scores for most GamePass titles. In terms of content curation it's at least as good as PS Now (likely better), and quality control is much tighter than the Nintendo eShop (not a gaming subscription service but just to illustrate a point).
Parroting popular misguided talking points mockingly won't add much to discussion.
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coffinbirth
Member
They have a LOT on their plate, to be fair. I think they weren't being managed properly, either internally or by their overlords, but it all sounds like a lot of swirling madness.
First of all, they developed an entirely new engine, Infinite Campaign is a semi-open world that is bigger than Halo 4 & 5 combined, multiplayer, co-op, Forge, Battle Royale all while trying to make that run on an 8 year-old potato, pc and XSX...
Secondly, Master Chief Collection was a pretty massive undertaking, and whether it was pressure from Microsoft or an internal decision, they had to have dedicated a sizeable amount of resources to it, which was dumb. Sure, that Halo rollout on pc made headlines, and sure the SX/S upgrade was nice to get, but at what cost?
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed in the reveal and subsequent delay last year, but honestly I think Microsoft is more to blame here than 343i just by virtue of not even being aware/being ok with the state of Halo mere months before the launch of a new console. Be that by being too hands-off during the development process as they claim to be, or by wanting to avoid any and all accusations of crunch for fear of negative press despite giving them a LOT to do. I dunno.
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Stuart360
Member
Hades has rattled you a bit eh?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
I realize from this thread that you think your gamepass jokes are genuinely hilarious.
Good for you!