Himuro said:rofl The new Gryffindor Tower password is abstinence. wtf :lol
Had me cracking up!
Himuro said:rofl The new Gryffindor Tower password is abstinence. wtf :lol
Kobun Heat said:Exactly. I think it's more meaningful than that. First off, there's no way Ginny will just roll over and accept Harry's decision. She waited five years for him, after all.
Second, there's something else that's constantly reinforced throughout the series: Ginny's power. We're constantly shown, if not outright told, that she is one of the most powerful girls at Hogwarts. Usually it's just mentioned in passing by Fred and George, but in this volume we see it confirmed by another outside source -- Slughorn, who invites her to his club for reasons entirely related to her magical ability. He's not just bringing ANYBODY who can pull off a Bat-Bogey Hex; so what he saw had to be extraordinarily impressive.
Soul4ger said:Additionally, Snape and Malfoy both knew that Ginny and Harry were going out, BEFORE Harry broke up with her at the funeral. Whether or not Harry thinks distancing himself no will make a difference, there are already a couple with Voldemort who know, at least, that he was dating her. It's bound to get back how important she is to him. She's involved whether Harry wants it or not, at this point.
One general question I do have. Why can house elves apparate in Hogwarts?
Mejilan said:As to the first,Then again, the anti-apparating enchantments may not apply to House-Elves by default. First of all, their effectively slaves (aside from Dobby), and second, they need to be able to stealth throughout the castle for cleaning purposes anyway.
Soul4ger said:Yeah, but as the descriptions in the book always indicate, there's a loud "popping" noise whenever someone apparates. I hardly call that stealthy...
Solo said:Am I the only one who thinks:
a) We havent seen the last of Dumbledore (whether still alive or a spirit or whatnot)
b) Snape isnt truely on the "evil" side
c) The whole thing was potentially some kind of elaborate ruse to trick Voldemort into over confidence?
Perhaps Im grasping at straws here though...
Mejilan said:When wizards apparate. House-Elves seem to have a completely different kind of magic. No spoken charms, no wands. They aren't wizards, and their abilities are innate. The wizarding rules don't apply to them. Well, aside from those of enslavement, essentially.
Soul4ger said:Go back and read any time Dobby or Kreacher apparates in HBP, and they also say there's a loud popping noise, sometimes accompanied by a squeek. Especially when they're in the hospital wing,. My assumption, really, is that it's just one of those things you have to accept as is.and Harry comes up with the idea for an Elf Tail for Malfoy
Kobun Heat said:About Ginny and the diary, though,you need to commit a murder to make a Horcrux. Plus, the real Voldemort would have had to do it -- not the memory he left behind in the diary. So I kind of doubt that.
What we do know is that Voldemort was attempting to make a Horcrux when he went to the Potters'. We might ask if he succeeded.
Kobun Heat said:What we do know is that Voldemort was attempting to make a Horcrux when he went to the Potters'. We might ask if he succeeded.
Mejilan said:This would, obviously, be a potentially dark way to finish the last book, however.I've been thinking more about Ginny and Tom Riddle (CoS). I get the feeling she's going to be the last of the Horcruxes, not the snake, Nagini. Remember what Riddle said at the end of CoS, before his memory was destroyed and the Diary Horcrux was mutilated? "So Ginny poured out her soul to me, and her soul happened to be exactly what I wanted... I grew stronger and stronger on a diet of her deepest fears, , her darkest secrets. I grew powerful, far more powerful than little Miss Weasley. Powerful enough to start feeding Miss Weasley a few of my secrets, to start pouring a little of my soul back into her..." Didn't Dumbledore say that the Diary was more than just a Horcrux, but also a weapon? Perhaps a perpetuating weapon that would "infect" a trusting, weaker bearer with that piece of Voldemort's soul...
GDJustin said:Harry himself can't be a Horcrux (if that's what you're implying). They all have to be tracked down and destroyed, and THEN Voldemort can be killed. It would be an interesting twist if Harry realized he had to sacrifice himself to make Voldemort vulnerable, but it just doesn't make sense. Then someone else would have to finish the deed.
jiggle said:If Dumbledore is actually dead (I have my doubts, but if he is, I feel like it was by choice...), wouldn't he be framed into a painting in the headmaster's room? Doesn't all headmaster get one there? I remember what Headless Nick said in OoP though...
Solo said:Oh, snap. I would love it if Rowling went "dark" like this. Great idea.
Harry having to kill the potential love of his life for the greater good? Yes please. Fuckin' eh!
jiggle said:If Dumbledore is actually dead (I have my doubts, but if he is, I feel like it was by choice...), wouldn't he be framed into a painting in the headmaster's room? Doesn't all headmaster get one there? I remember what Headless Nick said in OoP though...
I wonder what Dumbledore was doing during all his trips outside of Hogwarts. Also, wh gave him the info on the locket's location.
Mejilan said:This would, obviously, be a potentially dark way to finish the last book, however.I've been thinking more about Ginny and Tom Riddle (CoS). I get the feeling she's going to be the last of the Horcruxes, not the snake, Nagini. Remember what Riddle said at the end of CoS, before his memory was destroyed and the Diary Horcrux was mutilated? "So Ginny poured out her soul to me, and her soul happened to be exactly what I wanted... I grew stronger and stronger on a diet of her deepest fears, , her darkest secrets. I grew powerful, far more powerful than little Miss Weasley. Powerful enough to start feeding Miss Weasley a few of my secrets, to start pouring a little of my soul back into her..." Didn't Dumbledore say that the Diary was more than just a Horcrux, but also a weapon? Perhaps a perpetuating weapon that would "infect" a trusting, weaker bearer with that piece of Voldemort's soul...
jiggle said:Hocruxes are things that are precious to Tom though. And since they contain parts of his immortality, they would need to be protected or hidden away. Ginny was just a stupid girl to him, not a trophy. Plus, Ginny was supposed to die in that book. And they didn't meet Tom, just his hocrux. the real tom still have that 6th part of his soul if he didn't place it within somethign else already.
The hocrux transfering from the diary to her can be possible though?
Kobun Heat said:Okay, here's the list of Horcruxes so far.
1) The diary: destroyed
2) The ring: destroyed
3) Slytherin's locket: destroyed?
4: Hufflepuff's cup: at large
5) Something from either Ravenclaw or Gryffindor: at large
6) Nagini(?): still slithering around.
7) May not exist (Voldemort sought to create it when he killed Harry)
Despite what Harry says, he'll be back to Hogwarts for his seventh year at least some of the time -- where better to start searching for artifacts that belong to the school's founders than in the school? In, say, the Chamber of Secrets?
In reply to Soul4ger:
True, now that he's back he could start creating them again. But why, when he thinks they're all in perfect working order?
DrForester said:So, any ideas as to who R.V.B. might be? I'm finding it hard to beleive it's not someone we've seen mentioned in the book at somepoint. My guess it it's someone from the Black family.
Mejilan said:Oh, I know you weren't complaining. Just showing my approval of your final statement, is all.
I particulary loved how clever and intuitive Harry's grown. He's truly become insightful and politically savvy. The way he handled the new Minister of Magic was just fantastic... both times they had an encounter. Also, I was pleased with the way he was generally able to Dumbledore's reasonings, deductions, etc. Never perfectly, but just enough so that you felt proud of his accomplishments. He's REALLY come to his own in this book, particularly given how angsty he was in the last.
borghe said:Well whaddaya know?? He is!!!! *sigh* Now of course this could all be resolved somehow in the final book, but I just don't have hope it will be. I think it will just turn out to be that Snape is an ass and that's that.
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Been there, done that.xavean1 said:Ron is Voldemort
xavean1 said:Ron is Voldemort