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Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince

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Kobun Heat said:
Exactly. I think it's more meaningful than that. First off, there's no way Ginny will just roll over and accept Harry's decision. She waited five years for him, after all.

Second, there's something else that's constantly reinforced throughout the series: Ginny's power. We're constantly shown, if not outright told, that she is one of the most powerful girls at Hogwarts. Usually it's just mentioned in passing by Fred and George, but in this volume we see it confirmed by another outside source -- Slughorn, who invites her to his club for reasons entirely related to her magical ability. He's not just bringing ANYBODY who can pull off a Bat-Bogey Hex; so what he saw had to be extraordinarily impressive.

Additionally, Snape and Malfoy both knew that Ginny and Harry were going out, BEFORE Harry broke up with her at the funeral. Whether or not Harry thinks distancing himself no will make a difference, there are already a couple with Voldemort who know, at least, that he was dating her. It's bound to get back how important she is to him. She's involved whether Harry wants it or not, at this point.

One general question I do have. Why can house elves apparate in Hogwarts?
 
Soul4ger said:
Additionally, Snape and Malfoy both knew that Ginny and Harry were going out, BEFORE Harry broke up with her at the funeral. Whether or not Harry thinks distancing himself no will make a difference, there are already a couple with Voldemort who know, at least, that he was dating her. It's bound to get back how important she is to him. She's involved whether Harry wants it or not, at this point.

One general question I do have. Why can house elves apparate in Hogwarts?

As to the first,
these things are typical. It's obvious that Ginny's going to be a major player in the next book regardless, or especially because of what happened between Harry and her at the end of this one. Just all setup.

As to the second, House Elves have been demonstrated as early as CoS that they have loads of power. Come on, Lucius was attempting the Avara Kedavra death charm on Harry when he realized Harry had freed Dobby, and Dobby totally owned Lucius with a wave of his hand...

Then again, the anti-apparating enchantments may not apply to House-Elves by default. First of all, their effectively slaves (aside from Dobby), and second, they need to be able to stealth throughout the castle for cleaning purposes anyway.
 
Mejilan said:
As to the first,
Then again, the anti-apparating enchantments may not apply to House-Elves by default. First of all, their effectively slaves (aside from Dobby), and second, they need to be able to stealth throughout the castle for cleaning purposes anyway.
Yeah, but as the descriptions in the book always indicate, there's a loud "popping" noise whenever someone apparates. I hardly call that stealthy...
 
Am I the only one who thinks:

a) We havent seen the last of Dumbledore (whether still alive or a spirit or whatnot)
b) Snape isnt truely on the "evil" side
c) The whole thing was potentially some kind of elaborate ruse to trick Voldemort into over confidence?

Perhaps Im grasping at straws here though...
 
Soul4ger said:
Yeah, but as the descriptions in the book always indicate, there's a loud "popping" noise whenever someone apparates. I hardly call that stealthy...

When wizards apparate. House-Elves seem to have a completely different kind of magic. No spoken charms, no wands. They aren't wizards, and their abilities are innate. The wizarding rules don't apply to them. Well, aside from those of enslavement, essentially.
 
Solo said:
Am I the only one who thinks:

a) We havent seen the last of Dumbledore (whether still alive or a spirit or whatnot)
b) Snape isnt truely on the "evil" side
c) The whole thing was potentially some kind of elaborate ruse to trick Voldemort into over confidence?

Perhaps Im grasping at straws here though...

I suspect this may be somewhat true. There was one specific line at the end of HBP that made me suspicious, but when I looked for it after finishing the book, I couldn't find it again. It was something that Harry was contemplating, at the time.
 
I've been thinking more about Ginny and Tom Riddle (CoS). I get the feeling she's going to be the last of the Horcruxes, not the snake, Nagini. Remember what Riddle said at the end of CoS, before his memory was destroyed and the Diary Horcrux was mutilated? "So Ginny poured out her soul to me, and her soul happened to be exactly what I wanted... I grew stronger and stronger on a diet of her deepest fears, , her darkest secrets. I grew powerful, far more powerful than little Miss Weasley. Powerful enough to start feeding Miss Weasley a few of my secrets, to start pouring a little of my soul back into her..." Didn't Dumbledore say that the Diary was more than just a Horcrux, but also a weapon? Perhaps a perpetuating weapon that would "infect" a trusting, weaker bearer with that piece of Voldemort's soul...
This would, obviously, be a potentially dark way to finish the last book, however.
 
Mejilan said:
When wizards apparate. House-Elves seem to have a completely different kind of magic. No spoken charms, no wands. They aren't wizards, and their abilities are innate. The wizarding rules don't apply to them. Well, aside from those of enslavement, essentially.

Go back and read any time Dobby or Kreacher apparates in HBP, and they also say there's a loud popping noise, sometimes accompanied by a squeek. Especially when they're in the hospital wing,
and Harry comes up with the idea for an Elf Tail for Malfoy
. My assumption, really, is that it's just one of those things you have to accept as is.
 
Soul4ger said:
Go back and read any time Dobby or Kreacher apparates in HBP, and they also say there's a loud popping noise, sometimes accompanied by a squeek. Especially when they're in the hospital wing,
and Harry comes up with the idea for an Elf Tail for Malfoy
. My assumption, really, is that it's just one of those things you have to accept as is.

Ahh, I missed that. Good call. And I agree. I guess it is something we'll just have to accept. :) There's a lot about the Elves' abilities that aren't explained.
 
Yeah, it's pretty well-established that house-elves have powerful magic and that the usual rules don't apply to them.

About Ginny and the diary, though,
you need to commit a murder to make a Horcrux. Plus, the real Voldemort would have had to do it -- not the memory he left behind in the diary. So I kind of doubt that.

What we do know is that Voldemort was attempting to make a Horcrux when he went to the Potters'. We might ask if he succeeded.
 
Just finished. I'm not sure about who dies. I was surpised that a lot of people get murdered outside of the storyline though. But questions are not really answered, except for the as of yet useless identity of the HBP and some Voldemort story.

The link between Severus and Lily (Severus Snape = Persues Evans) had better go somewhere. Possibly explaining why James Potter was murdered and Lily given the option to live.

I don't know wtf JKR is doing with the relationships. The Ron/Hermione/Harry triangle was working great and now we have Harry pulling the "If my enemies knew I loved someone, they would hurt them" breakup line. Lupin and Bill also end up with very strange chicks. IMHO irrelevant to the story, but nonetheless repeated ad nauseum.

The format that worked great for 6 books is invariably going to change. Dursleys-->rescue-->Hogwarts-->final battle. Now it seems that Harry is going to duke it out LOTR style (epic quest with impossible odds).

This leads me to believe that the last book will have way too much expectations to tie up all the loose ends. I envision a 1000 page book or else a radical writing style change.
 
Kobun Heat said:
About Ginny and the diary, though,
you need to commit a murder to make a Horcrux. Plus, the real Voldemort would have had to do it -- not the memory he left behind in the diary. So I kind of doubt that.

What we do know is that Voldemort was attempting to make a Horcrux when he went to the Potters'. We might ask if he succeeded.

Except, what if the purpose of the Diary wasn't to create a Horcrux, but merely transfer the soul to another vessel (should true resurrection fail.) It'd be an interesting twist, regardless.

As for the Potter parents. Undoubtedly their murders were intended to be part of the process. Not really relevant, at this point.
 
Kobun Heat said:
What we do know is that Voldemort was attempting to make a Horcrux when he went to the Potters'. We might ask if he succeeded.


Harry himself can't be a Horcrux (if that's what you're implying). They all have to be tracked down and destroyed, and THEN Voldemort can be killed. It would be an interesting twist if Harry realized he had to sacrifice himself to make Voldemort vulnerable, but it just doesn't make sense. Then someone else would have to finish the deed.
 
Something else I've been thinking about re: Snape...

The rumor's always been that Dumbledore didn't give Snape the DADA job because he didn't want him too close to his old subject. But now we find out that all the jokes about the job being "jinxed" are entirely true. Voldemort probably really did put a curse on the job. Sort of puts a new twist on Dumbledore's hiring practices, no? Maybe he wasn't keeping Snape away -- rather, he was saving him until he was most needed.
 
Mejilan said:
I've been thinking more about Ginny and Tom Riddle (CoS). I get the feeling she's going to be the last of the Horcruxes, not the snake, Nagini. Remember what Riddle said at the end of CoS, before his memory was destroyed and the Diary Horcrux was mutilated? "So Ginny poured out her soul to me, and her soul happened to be exactly what I wanted... I grew stronger and stronger on a diet of her deepest fears, , her darkest secrets. I grew powerful, far more powerful than little Miss Weasley. Powerful enough to start feeding Miss Weasley a few of my secrets, to start pouring a little of my soul back into her..." Didn't Dumbledore say that the Diary was more than just a Horcrux, but also a weapon? Perhaps a perpetuating weapon that would "infect" a trusting, weaker bearer with that piece of Voldemort's soul...
This would, obviously, be a potentially dark way to finish the last book, however.

Oh, snap. I would love it if Rowling went "dark" like this. Great idea.

Harry having to kill the potential love of his life for the greater good? Yes please. Fuckin' eh!
 
Pretty good book. Not my favorite, but I'm glad lots of questions get answered.

If Dumbledore is actually dead (I have my doubts, but if he is, I feel like it was by choice...), wouldn't he be framed into a painting in the headmaster's room? Doesn't all headmaster get one there? I remember what Headless Nick said in OoP though...


I wonder what Dumbledore was doing during all his trips outside of Hogwarts. Also, who gave him the info on the locket's location.


I think Harry will be back to Hogwarts in the next book, if only to visit the Chamber of Secret. I remember distinctly Rowling said, in an interview in COS's DVD, that there's something significant in there still. Also, re-reading COS, I noticed Rowling snuck in a brief mention of some kind of door in the Chamber. Maybe one of the hocruxes is in there?








Ron was annoying. Harry was a little also (after 6 years, he still doesn't listen to Hermione's advice???), but not as much as he did in OoP.
 
GDJustin said:
Harry himself can't be a Horcrux (if that's what you're implying). They all have to be tracked down and destroyed, and THEN Voldemort can be killed. It would be an interesting twist if Harry realized he had to sacrifice himself to make Voldemort vulnerable, but it just doesn't make sense. Then someone else would have to finish the deed.

Scar.

jiggle said:
If Dumbledore is actually dead (I have my doubts, but if he is, I feel like it was by choice...), wouldn't he be framed into a painting in the headmaster's room? Doesn't all headmaster get one there? I remember what Headless Nick said in OoP though...

Um, his picture is in the office at the end...
 
Solo said:
Oh, snap. I would love it if Rowling went "dark" like this. Great idea.

Harry having to kill the potential love of his life for the greater good? Yes please. Fuckin' eh!

Indeed. It would take either a bit of fudging, or more creativity from Rowling than I have (not hard, for her, I'd imagine) to make it work, but I think it'd be doable. And the books have gotten undeniably darker.
 
jiggle said:
If Dumbledore is actually dead (I have my doubts, but if he is, I feel like it was by choice...), wouldn't he be framed into a painting in the headmaster's room? Doesn't all headmaster get one there? I remember what Headless Nick said in OoP though...

He is framed in a picture. It was mentioned when Harry and McGonagall were speaking in Dumbledore's office.


I wonder what Dumbledore was doing during all his trips outside of Hogwarts. Also, wh gave him the info on the locket's location.

Harry asked that of Dumbledore, and he responded that he was looking for the Horcruxes.
 
Mejilan said:
I've been thinking more about Ginny and Tom Riddle (CoS). I get the feeling she's going to be the last of the Horcruxes, not the snake, Nagini. Remember what Riddle said at the end of CoS, before his memory was destroyed and the Diary Horcrux was mutilated? "So Ginny poured out her soul to me, and her soul happened to be exactly what I wanted... I grew stronger and stronger on a diet of her deepest fears, , her darkest secrets. I grew powerful, far more powerful than little Miss Weasley. Powerful enough to start feeding Miss Weasley a few of my secrets, to start pouring a little of my soul back into her..." Didn't Dumbledore say that the Diary was more than just a Horcrux, but also a weapon? Perhaps a perpetuating weapon that would "infect" a trusting, weaker bearer with that piece of Voldemort's soul...
This would, obviously, be a potentially dark way to finish the last book, however.



Hocruxes are things that are precious to Tom though. And since they contain parts of his immortality, they would need to be protected or hidden away. Ginny was just a stupid girl to him, not a trophy. Plus, Ginny was supposed to die in that book. And they didn't meet Tom, just his hocrux. the real tom still have that 6th part of his soul if he didn't place it within somethign else already.

The hocrux transfering from the diary to her can be possible though?





Oh, oops, must've missed that part near the end:)
 
jiggle said:
Hocruxes are things that are precious to Tom though. And since they contain parts of his immortality, they would need to be protected or hidden away. Ginny was just a stupid girl to him, not a trophy. Plus, Ginny was supposed to die in that book. And they didn't meet Tom, just his hocrux. the real tom still have that 6th part of his soul if he didn't place it within somethign else already.

The hocrux transfering from the diary to her can be possible though?

As I said, it was take lots of creativity and/or some fudging to get my cool though unlikely theory to work. Horcruxes were just introduced, so obviously we know little about how they work. All we know is that the Diary differed from a more conventional Horcrux in that it was intended as a weapon before vessel. After all, he has 5 other (presumably) more conventional Horcruxes around. Dumbledore pretty much confirmed this. The diary was special, and the wording at the end of CoS rather specific... all that talk about soul transferring. Riddle was a memory, for sure, but an obviously sentient one. Just... limited and tied down, much like Voldemort as a wraith before his resurrection.

We can't know EXACTLY what Voldemort planned with the Diary, because he never got to execute his plan in regards to it. Lucius had it for safe keeping, but gave it to Ginny OF HIS OWN VOLITION, thinking that the Dark Lord was dead. Putting the Diary into play as it had been wasn't something that Voldemort knew about or could control, at that point. But Riddle showed resourcefulness in trying to make the best of the situation. Regardless, unlike the rest of the Horcruxes, the Diary was actually entrusted into the care of a Death Eater, something that Voldemort would NEVER have done with the rest of his true vessel Horcruxes. Remember, he has no friends, not even amongst his Death Eaters. They are merely a means to an end for him.
 
My question:

Voldemort knows that his diary, at least, is destroyed, so couldn't he create another "seventh" Horcrux. I know Dumbledore said he becomes less human with each one, but I don't think humanity is really holding Voldemort back..
 
Okay, here's the list of Horcruxes so far.

1) The diary: destroyed
2) The ring: destroyed
3) Slytherin's locket: destroyed?
4: Hufflepuff's cup: at large
5) Something from either Ravenclaw or Gryffindor: at large
6) Nagini(?): still slithering around.
7) May not exist (Voldemort sought to create it when he killed Harry)

Despite what Harry says, he'll be back to Hogwarts for his seventh year at least some of the time -- where better to start searching for artifacts that belong to the school's founders than in the school? In, say, the Chamber of Secrets?

In reply to Soul4ger:

True, now that he's back he could start creating them again. But why, when he thinks they're all in perfect working order?
 
Kobun Heat said:
Okay, here's the list of Horcruxes so far.

1) The diary: destroyed
2) The ring: destroyed
3) Slytherin's locket: destroyed?
4: Hufflepuff's cup: at large
5) Something from either Ravenclaw or Gryffindor: at large
6) Nagini(?): still slithering around.
7) May not exist (Voldemort sought to create it when he killed Harry)

Despite what Harry says, he'll be back to Hogwarts for his seventh year at least some of the time -- where better to start searching for artifacts that belong to the school's founders than in the school? In, say, the Chamber of Secrets?

In reply to Soul4ger:

True, now that he's back he could start creating them again. But why, when he thinks they're all in perfect working order?

He KNOWS the diary was destroyed, because he heard it from Lucius. Since he thinks everything is more powerful in sevens, why not create another one, to get back to that number?
 
Flaming Duck is correct. There are six Horcruxes, and the 7th bit of soul resides within Voldemort himself, and must be the last to be destroyed for Voldemort to truly die. Harry cannot be a Horcrux, as the prophecy pretty much guarantees that were one will live, the other will die. Both won't die. Besides, it was the Avara Kedavra curse that Harry survived. It was a curse that was intended to kill him, thereby denying the prophecy.
 
ok, just finished.

overall I was VERY dissatisfied with the book. and believe it or not, it had nothing to do with
dumbledore dying

first, I think Snape has turned out to be a HORRIBLY developed character.

Harry: He's evil
Dumbledore: No he's not
Harry: He's evil
Dumbledore: No he's not
Harry: He's evil
Dumbledore: No he's not
Harry: He's evil
Dumbledore: No he's not
Harry: He's evil
Dumbledore: No he's not
Harry: He's evil
Dumbledore: No he's not
Harry: He's evil
Dumbledore: No he's not

Well whaddaya know?? He is!!!! *sigh* Now of course this could all be resolved somehow in the final book, but I just don't have hope it will be. I think it will just turn out to be that Snape is an ass and that's that.

Second off, I hated that for 500 pages (seemingly) the books was "So have you heard ______ is going out with ______?" An absolute waste of space. Not that I am against teen romance, but really, it did NOTHING to further the plot in the slightest. At the end, literally NONE OF THAT mattered. I just read 500 pages of teen gossip only at the end for harry to say i the sunset "I'm going after Voldemort alone." and Ron and Hermione to say "Like hell you are, we're coming with." Seriously, why the hell did we have to endure 500 pages of nothing going on except for teen romance to end with that? uggh..

I hate how nothing further about Harry, you know, the central character, was developed at all in this book. I mean last one, with annoying as he was at the beginning, at least it was about Harry going through puberty (essentially) and dealing with all of that on top of the world threatening stuff. This one, umm, not only is it 500 pages of teen romance, but it is all about RON AND HERMIONE, BOTH OF WHOM ARE NOWEHERE EVEN OF SIGNIFICANCE IN THE END!!!! They should have called this: Year Six: Ron and Hermione Act Awkward Towards Each Other and Harry Uses a Book to Cheat. I swear..

ok, so did I like anything about this book? A few things. I liked that she at least made Draco deeper. sort of. his lack of resolve at the end was uncharacteristic of his behaviour through the rest of the book, but aside from that he still could turn out to be interesting in the final book.

I loved dumbledore, even his death. If there is one character Rowling has ALWAYS gotten right, IMHO it was Dumbledore. Don't really think his death was necessary, but aside from the utter disappoinment in Snape as a character I was fine with it.

The background stuff on Riddle was decent. Actually it is the only thing that kept me reading for those middle 500 is pages. (ok, really it was less than 500, but it was hundreds, miltiple)

Overall I did not really like this book at all. That COULD change, as I said, if she picks up on some possible twists and surprises she planted in this book (and hopefully previous ones). This book could be redeemed by enlightening me towards things that she has planned.. but as of now, this is DEFINITELY my least favorite. Even worse than CoS which I have only read twice. To be honest, I probably won't read this one again, unless 7 turns out to be a real zinger and I go back through this to pick up on stuff I might not have remember when reading seven.

anyway.. uggh. not pleased.
 
ok

this really doesn't change my mind much about the book, however

in reading the last parts with snape, first, he said nothing to dumbledore, and the only thing dumbledore said to him was "Severus... Please...", which could mean anything. also, I noticed upon rereading that snape never actually HARMED Harry. Yeah he said the Dark Lord wants him, but still, he could have easily harmed harry and let Pomfrey mend him up or something.. so there is probably something deeper to snape. I hope. I pray. Eh, like I said, the final book can either redeem this one or just have no effect on it in which case it is my least favorite. Only time will tell. still didn't need 500 pages of teen romance not involving the title character. LAME. :(
 
seriously the
romance was not a big part of the book at all, it was small part in some chapters and harry didn't even get with ginny till the end. I don't know where you get the idea that teen romance was most of the book, when in fact most of the book was dedicated to history of tom riddle, snape's character, malfoy's plot and dumbledore and harry

oh and it's obvious that

that there is far more to dumbledore's death than simply snape showed up and killed him instead of malfoy. there is still a great mystery with snape and dumbledore - i was thinking a unbreakable vow between them. dumbledore is not as trusting as people would think, and he showed that in how he handled tom riddle after he arrived at hogwarts
 
Dumbledore would never beg for his life. Hence, I feel he was pleading for Snape to end it. For what exact reason, Im not sure...
 
Dumbledore might have already been dying. He did ask for Snape instead of Madam Pomfrey. We're meant to assume that Snape would whip up a potion to save him (as he did after the ring incident), but maybe he knew he was beyond all that and wanted Snape to be the one accused of killing him?
 
great book. just finished it.

i didn't find the book to have that much romance, like the guy above says. the book barely touched on that, just here and there, like salt and pepper on a steak (the meat of the story) Rowling would occasionally add something about Ginny/Harry/Ron/Hermoine love connections, but it was never elaborate or took up much of the page. it just seems like it b/c she salt and peppered a lot of chapters.

It's obvious to me that we will be still hearing more about and even from Albus Dumbledore (through the portrait) in the next book. I believe A.D. purposefully had his life taken by Snape... in either a prearrangement or a spur of the moment understanding. This is obviously going to prove without a doubt to all Death Eaters and to Voldemenort that Snape is in with them... but of course I don't think he will be.

A.D. asked for Snape when on his way back to the castle for a reason. He seen the Dark Mark over Hogwarts and knew then that the time had come. Therefore, he knew he had to have Snape come and kill him... to allow Snape full and total confidence with Voldemort and more importantly, his crew (Death Eaters). When A.D. said 'Severus... Please...' he was asking him to kill him. Which is why Snape hesitated and why the look described on his face was so pained (Harry I believe mistook this look for evil). A.D. would never quiver in the face of death. He told Harry earlier that people are only afraid of death because of the unknown, which obviously A.D. is not afraid of. For A.D. death is not to be feared.

I believe in the next book, A.D. will talk to Harry from the portrait and calm him and even explain some of his reasons... assuring Harry he is content where he is and not to worry, but to instead not let his death go in vain.

More thoughts... it's obvious Ginny is so powerful due to her encounter with Voldemort (with the diary). He poured some of himself into her soul (as was explained in an earlier book) and obviously some of his power was transferred to her... just like it was transferred to Harry with his encounter.

P.S. I was really surprised to see Ron fighting the Death Eaters in the end... kind of cool. She didn't elaborate about it, but I was fairly surprised to see that he was fighting, and not just 'tried to fight but got dealt with', or knocked out or passed out.
 
So, any ideas as to who R.V.B. might be? I'm finding it hard to beleive it's not someone we've seen mentioned in the book at somepoint. My guess it it's someone from the Black family.
 
Oh, I know you weren't complaining. Just showing my approval of your final statement, is all. :)

I particulary loved how clever and intuitive Harry's grown. He's truly become insightful and politically savvy. The way he handled the new Minister of Magic was just fantastic... both times they had an encounter. Also, I was pleased with the way he was generally able to Dumbledore's reasonings, deductions, etc. Never perfectly, but just enough so that you felt proud of his accomplishments. He's REALLY come to his own in this book, particularly given how angsty he was in the last.
 
DrForester said:
So, any ideas as to who R.V.B. might be? I'm finding it hard to beleive it's not someone we've seen mentioned in the book at somepoint. My guess it it's someone from the Black family.

I (and a few others here) believe it to be Regulas Black, before he was killed by Voldemort. The initials were R.A.B., btw, IIRC.
 
Mejilan said:
Oh, I know you weren't complaining. Just showing my approval of your final statement, is all. :)

I particulary loved how clever and intuitive Harry's grown. He's truly become insightful and politically savvy. The way he handled the new Minister of Magic was just fantastic... both times they had an encounter. Also, I was pleased with the way he was generally able to Dumbledore's reasonings, deductions, etc. Never perfectly, but just enough so that you felt proud of his accomplishments. He's REALLY come to his own in this book, particularly given how angsty he was in the last.

ohh i concur!
 
borghe said:
Well whaddaya know?? He is!!!! *sigh* Now of course this could all be resolved somehow in the final book, but I just don't have hope it will be. I think it will just turn out to be that Snape is an ass and that's that.
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I don't think it's that simple.
Remember Chapter 2? Snape makes an Unbreakable Vow with Narcissa Malfoy to 1. protect her son and 2. do what her son is tasked with if Draco is unable to do it.

Here's a theory for why
Snape could still be on the good side, more or less. Snape was very hesitant to make the vow, but he realized that his cover would be blown if he didn't do it. At some point he must've warned Dumbledore about it. Why do I say this? On the tower, Dumbledore shows no fear towards Draco or any of the Death Eaters, yet when Snape shows up, he is visibly shaken and pleads... because he knows that Snape has been tasked with killing him if Draco can't do it.

Either that, or Dumbledore and Snape planned this all along, and Snape's pained expression was regret.

Hmmm.

Well, we'll find out in 2-3 years, right? :)
 
Dumbledore has never been afraid of dying... suggesting he was pleading with Snape is rediculous. you should know better than thinking that, after so much has been revealed you about his character. Rowling even has Dumbledore mention in HBP how he is not afraid of 'the unknown'

p.s. can we just create a new thread for all the people who have already read the book to talk about everything without having to use these spoiler tags?
 
My wife just had the book ruined for her from a girl she teachs at church. Girl got the book at midnight Friday and has already finished it and then tonight just went off about how the book ends and everything. What a cow!!
 
xavean1 said:
Ron is Voldemort
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I think R.A.B probably stands for the last names of three people. Dumbledore said that Voldermort's cave puzzle would be impossible to complete alone, and if Dumbledore cant complete it alone i seriously doubt that Regalus Black could. Of course, Black could be one of the group, and that is likley because the group probably consists of disilusioned death eaters, because only they would probably have access to information on Voldermort like that.

It seems likely that the first step in finding the rest of the horcrux is finding R.A.B first to get their information on the Horcruxs, and if Regalus Black is one of the members of R.A.B, or is R.A.B then i think it would fit rather well because then Harry Potter would be forced to go back to the Black ancestral home in the hopes of finding some answers there. I think that makes some sense because then the Black home passing to Harry would be rather pointless, well besides the whole kreacher thing, but that wasnt very important in this book as well.

Oh yea, i really enjoyed the book. It's probably my favorite from the series, but i wished the classes and the learning of spells were discussed more because i always found that interesting. It seems really weird that we didnt get to see HP in DADA more because with snape being the teacher, and it being HP best subject it really seemed like a mist opprutonity for some interesting parts.
 
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