Gangxxter
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Don't say that. CoD 1-4 were awesome (especially 2).
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Have you ever genuinely wanted a game to fail?
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Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
No, I have never wanted a game to fail.
I am not threatened by games or the actions of game publishers.
I am not threatened by games or the actions of game publishers.
So, you hate fun? Good to know I guess.
Oh and btw: PS2 launched 18 months prior to Xbox/GC.
Many of the things you have enjoyed through out life started as a pitch by "greedy marketing men" out to make lots of money. Most things, actually.
Regardless of your cartoon-vilain view on how marketing works, the development part is usually fueled by one or more individuals that have a vision, and a team that contributes and works hard and passionately to get it done.
The team at NT was obviously passionate about making their take on DMC, and even though entertainment is made to be criticized, going beyond the "vote with your wallet" mentality to actively wishing everyone hates it so it crashes and burns while you laugh at their misfortune, is a fucking disturbing thing.
Specially if it comes from anyone older than 12.
We are all selfish to some degree. But maybe, just maybe, the continual success of these games shows high demand and appreciation for what they offer.
Maybe if I have a boiling hatred for everything company X does, I should stop praying for their failure and being angry at how others seem happy about their products, and look for shit I like somewhere else.
I also don't see how Smash Bros is guilty of being "the same shit over and over" when there are only 3 games out, and all of them play differently.
And we don't know much about Mario3DW. But I find it funny that we live in a world where a sequel to Galaxy gets almost universal praise but a main console game that apparently uses the foundation of the original 3D Land to build something new is suddenly target of angry fans that cry for innovation. Seems like a case of people crying that its not what they wanted, more than being mad because it isn't something new.
And the game is not even out yet. Not like that matters much anyway lol
I hate all of that crap as well.
Best and worst thing Nintendo has ever done is making and then ignoring this beast:
R_thanatos
Member
Aside from DmC ?
That's like the only game where i genuily felt i wouldn't want it to be a sucess , that was before and after i tried the game.
That's like the only game where i genuily felt i wouldn't want it to be a sucess , that was before and after i tried the game.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Not since I became an adult. But as a teenager I enjoyed the idea of clones of my favorite games not doing well.
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I feel stupid for engaging now
Haeralis The BRave
Banned
Yes, every FFXIII sequel, especially Lightning Returns. If it doesn't fail, then we might get more XIII spin offs.
ShockingAlberto
Member
oh my god are you guys arguing with Brera
I want all EA games to fail as I have had it with this company. Its practices of releasing games ever year that is just the same game with minor changes needs to stop.
I wanted Live to fail and I wanted the first Halo to fail. I hated what live has turned console games into...a monthly fee . I was very excited for Halo when it was announced for PC...when it changed to Xbox I skipped it. I still wonder to this day what Halo would be like if it stayed PC only.
I wanted Live to fail and I wanted the first Halo to fail. I hated what live has turned console games into...a monthly fee . I was very excited for Halo when it was announced for PC...when it changed to Xbox I skipped it. I still wonder to this day what Halo would be like if it stayed PC only.
LowEndTorque
Member
Not a game, but I genuinely wanted the Kinect to fail. Unfortunately, it didn't and now we have the $500 Xbone.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
It's funny because the ones I usually want to fail, I usually end up buying into later on. But right now, I want the Xbox One to fail, so that Microsoft may learn the error of their ways with it and just end up dumping the console market (so realistic, I know).
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I'm sure some people are doing that, just like some people sent NT death threats through email and on their message boards, but is that really the majority of activity in this thread?
I don't see why extending the "voting with your wallet" mentality to feeling satisfied when sales reflect the message you wanted to send makes someone an irredeemable asshole.
Sure game failures can result in lost jobs, and I don't wish ill on anyone who gets tossed aside in the midst of all that, but that's a problem the industry has to deal with. As a fan I just want there to be games being made that I want to buy.
Basically I just don't agree with the idea that wanting games to underperform to send a message = Wishing the devs of that game were jobless/homeless.
There are A LOT of people here in GAF that proudly announce that they would rather see the DMC franchise dead than watching Capcom release DmC 2 instead of DMC 5.
Do I even need to comment on how retarded this is?
Its one thing to be happy that voting with your wallet got you the game you wanted in the end. Its another to cheer the death of a product and misfortune of their creators, without even knowing if these events will lead to the development of whatever you wanted in the first place.
yeehamuffins
Member
The Old Republic, mostly because of how it diverted so many resources from BioWare's SP properties and ended up producing worse games as a result (although I doubt it's the only thing to blame for DA2 and ME3's ending).
And while I don't really sit around hoping for them to fail, I must admit to getting a little bit of satisfaction every time another shallow attempt to create a "WoW killer" (usually by making an MMO that's 90% just like WoW) fails miserably. Just because it'll hopefully mean that studios will eventually stop trying and start spending their resources on games I have more of an interest in. Yeah, I'm petty.
And while I don't really sit around hoping for them to fail, I must admit to getting a little bit of satisfaction every time another shallow attempt to create a "WoW killer" (usually by making an MMO that's 90% just like WoW) fails miserably. Just because it'll hopefully mean that studios will eventually stop trying and start spending their resources on games I have more of an interest in. Yeah, I'm petty.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
Why do threads like these ALWAYS breed DmC haters?
I loved the game and I also loved DMC1, 3 and 4, yet I think DmC did everything right in its own way.
Yes, the series as a whole has the sole problem of being owned by Capcpom, so there's always a chance that it just gets shelved and forgotten about, but DmC will definitely not be the final nail in THAT coffin, so please stop acting like it is.
I loved the game and I also loved DMC1, 3 and 4, yet I think DmC did everything right in its own way.
Yes, the series as a whole has the sole problem of being owned by Capcpom, so there's always a chance that it just gets shelved and forgotten about, but DmC will definitely not be the final nail in THAT coffin, so please stop acting like it is.
I suppose what you say is true, but it is also to be mindful that this is Devil May Cry. The whole core of the game is about style in combat. It's hard to have style when the systems in play are weak and broken to the point you can cheese the rating system and the enemies with no trouble. I am not even claiming DMC has the best fighting system in 3D games, but DmC is nearly around DMC2 in terms of genuine depth. It's all flash and nothing else. I would even argue characters as all of them are absolutely forgettable. The main antagonists aren't even threatening in the slightest, and the twist the end of the game has is absolutely poor. A DeviantArt twist if there ever was one for the series.
Now, I am not one of those who is claiming the game should fail and any idea moving forward with this type of game should never exist. I am only stating that DmC is a very poor Devil May Cry game. Maybe it's a decent action game, but that's the best it is. Decent. It does nothing to improve on the previous games in terms of core mechanics, and even goes so far as to take out things.
That sounds like something I'd find to be true, seeing as I think ArmA is hands down the best military first person series out there. But maybe I hate modern military games where you have nanotechnology and super healing abilities while being a one man army capable of dishing out World War III on your opponents.
Wiktor
Member
Did it actually divert any resources? I mean, it wasn't even made in the same country as their SP games.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
I don't understand the hate anymore for DmC having played it. When it first was announced I was in the "wtf have they done" group and was determined not to buy it. When I got it on steam and actually played it I really enjoyed it and I honestly don't see much difference between this Dante and the old one but that could be me.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
Every Aonuma Zelda game.
Y'know what's sad? There are probably 1 or 2 people on GAF who actually hold this opinion.
All those rip-off facebook and ios games.
Seeing ads that say "Animal Crossing on your iPhone!" or "Pokemon + World of Warcraft = This game!". Also that Ridiculous Fishing rip-off. God, that stuff makes me so angry.
Other than that... nothing much. I hope that yearly installments will start selling less (looking at you, CoD and Assassin's Creed) because it'll hopefully cause publishers to spend more time on their titles and thus increase quality.
Seeing ads that say "Animal Crossing on your iPhone!" or "Pokemon + World of Warcraft = This game!". Also that Ridiculous Fishing rip-off. God, that stuff makes me so angry.
Other than that... nothing much. I hope that yearly installments will start selling less (looking at you, CoD and Assassin's Creed) because it'll hopefully cause publishers to spend more time on their titles and thus increase quality.
WhiskeyKnight
Member
No, because that's insane.
pretty done
Member
Not really, but I want Monster Hunter 4 to underperform (it wont) so it gets ported to a console with appropriate controls for the series.
Melchiah
Member
This, and also REmake, as it wasn't available on the platform all the rest of the RE games were, and where most of the series' fans were. I partly got my wish, as it sold far less than RE1-5.
And this, as I feel the mobile trend is a threat to the future of consoles, and more traditional (and expensive) games.
Basically.
Bald Cleft
Banned
PSASBR.
lol, but they'll just port it to the Wii U and people will still complain.
I wanted ME3, Dead Space 3, and Dragon's Age 2 to fail. 2/3 ain't half bad.
Every casual games that Nintendo makes, Wii Fit or Wii Sports, don't care about those, don't want to see them again, and i want to see their Wii U versions fail so that Nintendo can put their resources only on non-casual stuff again, just like the old days.
The Bookerman
Member
DOTA 2.(Yeah I said it)
Personally I don't wish any ill will to a specific project. People in the industry though that I can't stand, wish they'd lose their job because they are opportunistic assholes, trying to get ahead.
Personally I don't wish any ill will to a specific project. People in the industry though that I can't stand, wish they'd lose their job because they are opportunistic assholes, trying to get ahead.