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[hardcastlemccormick]

Sometimes I wonder if I'm playing Mario Kart 7 or StarCraft II. But then I see the wheels on the screen and I know.

It's all those colors man, that generic art style between the two is all basically the same. Fuck that cartoony bullshit.

 

[ymmv]

The only two that I can understand people getting confused over are Mario and Luigi Dream Team and Mario and Luigi RPG 4.

They are all different genres.

Well, I do think parents looking for a new 3DS game for one of their children will get confused. They often don't exactly know what games their kids play. If all they know little Timmy enjoyed various Nintendo games with Mario and Zelda, they'll probably spend a long time looking at the various covers wondering if they already got that game or not.

I'm not a traditional Nintendo fan and to me too all those new titles seem to melt into one if I don't investigate further. It's not like only FPS shooters all look alike ("Call of Heroes: Modern Battlefield 5"), it's just as easy to create realistic sounding new Nintendo titles:

Super Luigi Party 9
New Super Yoshi Bros
Zelda Party Brawlers 4
Paper Mario Resort U
...

 

[BlackJace]

I think the argument is not that the games play similar, but are aesthetically very similar....which is true and not crazy regardless of someones post history

When youve got 5 games coming out from the same universe and another taking cues from this universe (Zelda) its not hard to understand why someone would find this confusing

EDIT: Glad some people have joined the conversation who arent content with just calling the OP and idiot and calling it for the day

There's already a thread for the topic that you wish to discuss, as already linked to by Stump.

 

[The Awesomest]

I read the OP and could've swore we've had this exact thread before. Hasn't someone made this exact thread before? I read all the way through the OP and I was like, "Heh, I remember this thread" before I saw the date.

 

[Duffyside]

New Mario Bros. Dream Team Bros.
New Super Luigi U

... Are these real things? Serious question.

 

[Diablos54]

... Are these real things? Serious question.

The first is the new Mario & Luigi RPG on the 3DS, the second is the NSMBU DLC.

 

[RoninChaos]

Sometimes I wonder if I'm playing Mario Kart 7 or StarCraft II. But then I see the wheels on the screen and I know.

It's all those colors man, that generic art style between the two is all basically the same. Fuck that cartoony bullshit.

No you don't.

Am I really seeing these replies from a forum that has bitched regularly about how bland looking NSMB is?

 

[Linkstrikesback]

... Are these real things? Serious question.

That's the Europe title for Mario & Luigi 4, and the second is the name of the Luigi DLC mode (replaces all 82 stages with new ones, plus old style floaty luigi).

So yes, they're both real.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

No you don't.

Am I really seeing these replies from a forum that has bitched regularly about how bland looking NSMB is?

Damn, you got me. I posted in jest.

How dare I make jokes. This is console warfare, men, we have no times for silly games!

 

[Ace Harding]

I get it, lists of games titles can look like algebra sometimes, find the value of these games:

SMT x FE
x+y
SMT4
SM3DL
NSMB2
LM2
OoT3D
x

Seventy one.

I don't have trouble with those particular games, no. But yeah sometimes certain releases will blend together. The Mario and DK game I keep forgetting about and I'll see the name and it takes me a second to process. Like didn't that game come out on the GBA years ago (something about Minis marching?). The New Luigi U takes me a second to place too, but that's DLC.

Also Devil Survivor and Devil Summoner. I think I can be forgiven for mixing those up.

I used to mix up NSMB2 and SM3DL.

 

[Jacksonlee]

No you don't.

Am I really seeing these replies from a forum that has bitched regularly about how bland looking NSMB is?

nintendo fanboys?

in all seriousness guys, anyone else have a problem with the blend character design and weak 3d models of the characters? that alone makes me cringe.

 

[sn00zer]

There's already a thread for the topic that you wish to discuss, as already linked to by Stump.

Im not talking just about the reuse of characters, but it is very apparent that since the Mii-verse came into being, many if not all Nintendo games took some inspiration from it.... very rounded shapes, large bubbly icons, a short of muted sheen to everything... its a bit hard to describe and outside of my vocab, but I think my Disney analogy still works....

When you see a mainline Nintendo game, you instantly recognize it as such regardless of what character is on screen, there is a certain aesthetic they follow and while its not as set in stone as someone like DIsney, it is there

EDIT: Actually Brawl is the one Nintendo game that steps outside of this....I give a ton of credit to Brawl for showin a grittiness to Nintendo

 

[RoninChaos]

Damn, you got me. I posted in jest. How dare I make jokes. This is console warfare, men, we have no times for silly games!

Considering the joke you made was old three pages ago, you can understand my post.

So is this thread going to have a real discussion or 14 my pages of this guy's recycled joke?

 

[I Stalk Alone]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Heavy's is always stuck on doomed o'clock

 

[Ace Harding]

Oh wait a minute I actually didn't know there were two Mario RPG games announced. Dream Team Bros AND SM RPG4? I have no idea what the differences are there. Is the latter coming to Wii U?

 

[RionaaM]

No, I don't. If I ever have any doubt about a game, a quick Google search solves it for me.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

So is this thread going to have a real discussion

It's not like the OP actually gives a fuck.

 

[lethial]

Where's an eye roll gif when you need one. I mean holy shit, open your eyeballs and read the descriptions of the games.

 

[SturokBGD]

I get it, lists of games titles can look like algebra sometimes, find the value of these games:

SMT x FE
x+y
SMT4
SM3DL
NSMB2
LM2
OoT3D
x

42.

 

[The Boat]

Sometimes I wonder if I'm playing Mario Kart 7 or StarCraft II. But then I see the wheels on the screen and I know.

It's all those colors man, that generic art style between the two is all basically the same. Fuck that cartoony bullshit.

I hate when I get Zerg rushed on Rainbow Road.

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

Considering the joke you made was old three pages ago, you can understand my post.

Considering the topic you want to discuss is as old as the Earth itself, can we please for the love all that is good in the world not talk about how New Super Mario Bros is a derivative graphical abyss for five goddamn minutes?

So is this thread going to have a real discussion or 14 my pages of this guy's recycled joke?

If by real discussion you mean laugh at people who don't like Nintendo try and rationalize their generalizations, then sure. I hear there's some good talk in other threads.

 

[Salsa]

Mario & Luigi and Yoshi's Island seem to be going for a similar style that takes me back to Yoshi's Story and that kind of claymation-sorta-looking-thing

other than that im not sure what you're saying

 

[RoninChaos]

Please point me to some then.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Oh wait a minute I actually didn't know there were two Mario RPG games announced. Dream Team Bros AND SM RPG4? I have no idea what the differences are there. Is the latter coming to Wii U?

There weren't. The OP listed the same game twice because he's Heavy.

 

[Hanmik]

If you can't look at these screen shots and tell it's 4 different games, then you clearly have problems far greater than anything gaf could help you with. I'm not trying ot be funny here, I'm being serious. You should get an MRI done, and make sure everything is working alright. Yes they share a similar aesthetic but there is clearly enough different to be able to use a quick glance and know they aren't the same thing. I could see how maybe a 5 year old, or some one with a double digit IQ might have some trouble, but a grown intelligent adult would not.

I'm sorry but if I didn't know these are different games (because you said so in your post) then I could easily mistake these pictures for the same game, just different levels..
An just to check if I'm the only one I just showed the pictures to my wife and kids, they all said "what is that mario game called?". Lol (wife is 33 kids are 8 and 9, i am 38)..

 

[Interceptor]

All these colors! All these pixels! How can anyone differentiate them?

 

[chickdigger802]

idk, I do kinda get what Heavy is saying. They all look like they can be part of mario galaxy 3 or something.

But luckily video games have titles. And with the power of youtube and the title of the game, people can figure out which game is which.

 

[donny2112]

He is talking exclusively about Nintendos recent output, and with that I agree

If he's not going to put in any time to differentiate the games, then, yes, they may all look the same, because...

If the way you tell games apart is by watching what the main character looks like, then, yeah, 3-D Mario games are all going to look alike. However, the games themselves have wide-ranging mechanics and different purposes. e.g. Mario in Mario Golf and Mario in Mario & Luigi 4 may be the same model, but they have vastly different functions. Same for Mario Party 3DS. Watching the games would make that clear with more than a cursory inspection.

Edit:
See Stumpokapow's post above.

You're being deliberately obtuse.

There is no game called "New Mario Bros Dream Team Bros.". Mario and Luigi RPG 4 is subtitled Dream Team Bros in Europe. That game is an RPG.

New Super Luigi U is downloadable content for New Super Mario Bros U.

Mario Party is a Mario Party game.

Mario and Donkey Kong is a series of puzzle games, the newest release of which is a top-down title with some sort of Pipe Dream-like mechanics.

Yoshi's Island is a series of games where you play as Yoshi. There are two unreleased Yoshi games right now: Yoshi's Island 3DS, and a Yoshi game for Wii U featuring a yarn aesthetic.

I've bolded the words you need to tell the games apart.

If what you meant was "LOL boy Nitnendo spends all their time cashing in on nostalgia and the same old characters", that thread is currently on the front page

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

Please point me to some then.

I've only heard, I think a mod posted in the threads to tell people where to chitchat. But it's all just hearsay. It's not like there's a place to look at all the stuff people are talking about on NeoGAF somewhere, and it's not like that list might be populated with a shit-ton of Nintendo related posts such as "Has Nintendo convinced you to buy a 3DS yet?" or "Is Nintendo incapable of creating games that don't rely on nostalgia?"

Quick, try and find another way to defend your precious criticism of the NSMB series, it's so fresh and innovative. I don't think anybody ever said anything about how they're all basically the same looking.

 

[Sendou]

idk, I do kinda get what Heavy is saying. They all look like they can be part of mario galaxy 3 or something.

That's the last game I would compare them to. Galaxy has pretty iconic artstyle and nothing on that list really compares to it.

 

[donny2112]

and another taking cues from this universe (Zelda)

So a Link to the Past remake sequel that looks like Link to the Past from 1992 is taking cues from Mario games in 2013.

No.

 

[Hobbun]

I have the same problem with bags of chips.

This should have been the first reply.

 

[Jamix012]

So a Link to the Past remake that looks like Link to the Past from 1992 is taking cues from Mario games in 2013.

No.

S'not a remake, it's a sequel. But your point stands.

 

[Jacksonlee]

If he's not going to put in any time to differentiate the games, then, yes, they may all look the same, because...


.

nobody's doubting the fact they all play differently.

but on a basic level for the consumers, they look the same.

i concur with Heavy.

 

[Impeccable]

I thought Super Luigi Wii U thing was a full game until I read this thread.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Can we actually get back on topic. OP may have a history but that doesn't mean you should regard all his posts/threads as agenda driven.

New Mario Bros. Dream Team Bros.
Yoshi's Island 3DS/U
New Super Luigi U
Mario and Luigi RPG 4
Mario Party 3DS
Mario vs DK Carnival

As a casual observer of Nintendo games, I have trouble differentiating these. Is anyone else? I can tell they're different games but they all sort of mesh together. Art styles are similar, characters, settings, it's confusing. I guess you could say the same for:

OP does have a point particularly (if not solely) the mario universe. The games seem to have an almost unified character model set, relatively similar art style and obviously the same characters. This is only most apparent superficially as the games play differently.

So a Link to the Past remake that looks like Link to the Past from 1992 is taking cues from Mario games in 2013.

No.

It does not look like LTTP at all in art style.

This

looks more like this:

than this:

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

nobody's doubting the fact they all play differently.

but on a basic level for the consumers, they look the same.

i concur with Heavy.

That's probably why they sell so poorly I bet.

 

[Thoraxes]

I was going to reply, but then I realized it's Heavy.

Yeah, that was me too.

 

[donny2112]

S'not a remake, it's a sequel. But your point stands.

Yeah, oops. Fixed.

 

[MisterHero]

Heavy maybe you should stick to Wrasslin GAF

 

[sn00zer]

Can we actually get back on topic. OP may have a history but that doesn't mean you should regard all his posts/threads as agenda driven.

PICS!

OP does have a point particularly (if not solely) the mario universe. The games seem to have an almost unified character model set, relatively similar art style and obviously the same characters. This is only most apparent superficially as the games play differently.

EDIT: and I would totally thorw in the new Zelda as well

 

[KarmaCow]

Don't worry about it, remember it's the Year of Luigi. Please be excited.

 

[Diablos54]

Heavy maybe you should stick to Wrasslin GAF

Something something HE'S LEGIT ANGRY MAN!

 

[zruben]

Can we actually get back on topic. OP may have a history but that doesn't mean you should regard all his posts/threads as agenda driven.


OP does have a point particularly (if not solely) the mario universe. The games seem to have an almost unified character model set, relatively similar art style and obviously the same characters. This is only most apparent superficially as the games play differently.

well, of course... it's the same franchise... halo games and CoD games looks the same... the same for Fifa games, "Tales of..." games, Metal Gear... Uncharted... most of the Tomb Raiders... etc...

that's how it works. They have to look similar because that's how people want them... REGULAR PEOPLE, not Gaf people.

 

[Jacksonlee]

EDIT: and I would totally thorw in the new Zelda as well

i was going to gather PICS as well, but thanks mate. you've done it!

im wondering if this uniformity between the Mario universe is deliberate on Nintendo's part.

 

[donny2112]

i concur with Heavy.

You concur that recently released Mario games all look alike, but recently released Battlefields/Call of Dutys are "not as bad" to the casual observers, because that's what Heavy was pushing in the OP.

 

[Jacksonlee]

well, of course... it's the same franchise... halo games and CoD games looks the same... the same for Fifa games, "Tales of..." games, Metal Gear... Uncharted... most of the Tomb Raiders... etc...

that's how it works. They have to look similar because that's how people want them... REGULAR PEOPLE, not Gaf people.

i thought they were separate franchises, or do i have that wrong..?

You concur that recently released Mario games all look alike, but recently released Battlefields/Call of Dutys are "not as bad" to the casual observers, because that's what Heavy was pushing in the OP.

only on mario.
i dont FPS,

 

[Bjoern the Smexy]

New Mario Bros. Dream Team Bros. << You're getting your names confused. It's called "Mario & Luigi - Dream Team Bros." and it's the fourth game of that Mario RPG series on Nintendo's handhelds
Yoshi's Island 3DS/U << It's that game where you play a green dinosaur and Mario's a baby, but this one's the second sequel to the original game
New Super Luigi U << This is the DLC for New Super Mario Bros. U
Mario and Luigi RPG 4 << This is the same as the first one, except "Mario & Luigi RPG 4" is its Japanese name
Mario Party 3DS << Come on, now
Mario vs DK Carnival << I can forgive you for not knowing what this is. In my opinion the Mario vs DK series is quite niche

But seriously man, how can you not tell at least three of these games apart?

 

[sn00zer]

i was going to gather PICS as well, but thanks mate. you've done it!

im wondering if this uniformity between the Mario universe is deliberate on Nintendo's part.

Absolutely...literally any major IP has a rule book somewhere that sets the expectations of every aspect of that IP...what you can and cannot do with that franchise, proportions of characters....the homogenizing of the Mario verse is very deliberate and I will not be surprised in the least if it creeps into other franchises (Zelda currently being the most obvious)

 

[Interceptor]

Twist: It's only one giant good game separated into many small ones!

related news: people are confused by the new pixar movie. 'we just can't tell them apart!'