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Heavy Rain - A Neogaf Official Thread on the Gaming Forum

Lion Heart said:
Juno you did an amazing job on the OP but you should have used that banner for the thread title.

Heavy Rain | Official Thread | Love. Guilt. Fear. Lamp.
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Sorry Juno, but I also want to put in another vote for renaming the thread. It looks weird atm.
 
Gamesradar said:
You'll love
One of the most stunningly believable game worlds to date
It's genuine emotionally affecting at times
You'll be engrossed
You'll hate
It's badly written
It feels a little smug at times
You'll hate it if you're an action junkie
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That's all I needed. I'll check it out when/if it's cheap, but for now I'm gonna save my money for God of War 3 for now.
 
:lol

I originally only put Heavy Rain - A Neogaf Official Thread, and then a mod added "on the Gaming Forum"

Will change it to something else - just not sure what to...
 
Gamesradar said:
You'll love
One of the most stunningly believable game worlds to date
It's genuine emotionally affecting at times
You'll be engrossed

You'll hate
It's badly written
It feels a little smug at times
You'll hate it if you're an action junkie
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AAK said:
That's all I needed. I'll check it out when/if it's cheap, but for now I'm gonna save my money for God of War 3 for now.
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yeah, those things don't go together. It's gamesradar though, so awful writing and analysis is to be expected.
 
templeusox said:
Hype building. #3 on Amazon's top 100.
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That's awesome. I noticed it cracked the top ten a couple days ago. With the critical praise and the demo hitting tomorrow for everyone, it'll probably be #1 very soon.

I really, really want this game to be mega-successful.
 
jaekwon15 said:
has any information confirmed how long the game is, and if there are mulitiple endings?
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Roughly 8 hours. And according to some people it has about 20 different endings. (Not too sure about that though.)
 
jaekwon15 said:
has any information confirmed how long the game is, and if there are mulitiple endings?
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there are multiple endings and permutations within those endings. think of it sort of like Chrono Trigger.
 
So what difficulty are you going to play heavy rain on? normal or hard?

i think i'll try it on hard first. I'll be even more on the edge during the action scenes.
 
Juno said:
:lol

I originally only put Heavy Rain - A Neogaf Official Thread, and then a mod added "on the Gaming Forum"

Will change it to something else - just not sure what to...
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Heavy Rain | Official Thread | Guilt. Fear. Love. Lamp.
 
alr1ghtstart said:
yeah, those things don't go together. It's gamesradar though, so awful writing and analysis is to be expected.
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Maybe they were genuinely affected by the bad writing?
 
keuja said:
So what difficulty are you going to play heavy rain on? normal or hard?

i think i'll try it on hard first. I'll be even more on the edge during the action scenes.
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I'm confused as to how the game differs between difficulties. The way it's worded it sounds like it's simply a matter of making the controller inputs more or less complex. But I heard someone tried the demo on easy and it altered the Sleazy Place scene somehow.

Anyway, I'll be playing it on hard.
 
Blackout the response if it's a spoiler, but does anyone know whether this game is going to drift into
the supernatural
like Indigo Prophecy did? Because that game completely fell off the rails at that point and, IMO, ruined itself.
 
doktorpeace said:
Blackout the response if it's a spoiler, but does anyone know whether this game is going to drift into
the supernatural
like Indigo Prophecy did? Because that game completely fell off the rails at that point and, IMO, ruined itself.
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no supernatural stuff.
 
Thanks, skip. By the way, I went to the Brewers fanfest in Milwaukee and asked Ryan Braun how the shrimp at his new tavern & grill in Lake Geneva is. He says it's good.
 
doktorpeace said:
Thanks, skip. By the way, I went to the Brewers fanfest in Milwaukee and asked Ryan Braun how the shrimp at his new tavern & grill in Lake Geneva is. He says it's good.
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haha, awesome. I'll have to go the next time I'm back home.
 
KAOz said:
Roughly 8 hours. And according to some people it has about 20 different endings. (Not too sure about that though.)
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thanks. i hope that is the total count of "finished game endings" and that does not include the "game over" scenes. i was told Indigo Prophecy had 20 different endings, but in reality, there were only 2 "finished game endings."
 
Wow, this game is getting really good reviews,

I was expecting a 50/50 split between the media, half absolutely loving it and half absolutely loathing it but it seems the majority had a really great time with it.

Not long now, the 28th can't come soon enough.
 
was at fry's yesterday and they are heavily advertising this game there. you couldn't walk through the entrance without seeing the game and the boxart and origami
 
I'm so happy reviewers didn't bash the game. I loved the demo and I definitely think we need new game genres.

Now let's hope sales are good too and Quantic Dream gets the funds they need for another creative game...
 
I thought the Destructoid review was pretty refreshing to be honest. And I fear that in the end, I may end up agreeing with Jim on most things mentioned :( I found his article about how it's insulting to gaming/gamers to be pretty spot-on as well, in some ways.

Will buy though. I just hope that Gamestop has nice some trade-in deals :P It would be pretty cool to be able to say in 15-30 years that I was there, when Heavy Rain has paved the way for future games, if that's what's gonna happen. I just hope my family will be able to enjoy it without being ignorant pricks about it :lol
 
Minamu said:
I thought the Destructoid review was pretty refreshing to be honest. And I fear that in the end, I may end up agreeing with Jim on most things mentioned :( I found his article about how it's insulting to gaming/gamers to be pretty spot-on as well, in some ways.

Will buy though. I just hope that Gamestop has nice some trade-in deals :P It would be pretty cool to be able to say in 15-30 years that I was there, when Heavy Rain has paved the way for future games, if that's what's gonna happen. I just hope my family will be able to enjoy it without being ignorant pricks about it :lol
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Sorry but after he said that the game was a disservice to videogames,I really cant trust anything he said.
 
keuja said:
So what difficulty are you going to play heavy rain on? normal or hard?
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The default for that EU demo was set on "Hard" so maybe the real game would be the same?

Heavy Rain | Official Thread | Love. Guilt. Fear. Lamp.
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Another vote for thread title change to this one please!
 
BlazingDarkness said:
There is one, but it's full of spoilers, so i didn't look
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Ah damn! Really?

They should have given them silly titles an ambiguous descriptions...like finish chapter xxx or what ever...
 
Jim Sterling's cornucopia of hate:
I try and be an open minded person. I work hard at improving my world view, I attempt to put aside all prejudice, and I always aim to accept different points of view. However, I have learned that my opinion of myself is an illusion. I am not open minded. My world view is terrible, my prejudice defines me and alternative points of view disgust me.
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^the opening paragraph to a non-heavy rain article he wrote
Less demanding players may be tricked into thinking the game is telling a brilliant story simply because it's not telling the kind of story that gamers are used to seeing[...]
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^from his HR review
It's a disservice to videogames to claim that your title is good because it's as entertaining as a movie. That essentially discredits the hard work of game writers and directors, who have a hard enough job as it is in trying to convince people that games are a legitimate work of creative entertainment. The last thing they need are having members of their own industry implying that credibility comes from a direct comparison to other mediums.
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^article he wrote Jan'10
 
RedRedSuit said:
Heavy Rain | Official Thread | Guilt. Fear. Love. Lamp.
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no! keep the (pseudo) in-jokes out of the thread title.
 
BobFromPikeCreek said:
I, uh, didn't say it wasn't...
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I don't know. There's plenty other reviews from a lot more reputable places that have praised the story in the game. I'm hoping for the best.
 
This game is so exotic compare to what's out there in the market right now that I'm really contemplating getting this day one. last time I played an adventure/detective game was back in 06 "Dreamfall" Its been quite a longtime I must say.
 
major_killjoy said:
Jim Sterling's cornucopia of hate:

^the opening paragraph to a non-heavy rain article he wrote

^from his HR review

^article he wrote Jan'10
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All of you can burn me in the main plaza, but after reading that last quote I clicked and the full article is not bad at all. The title is where he looses his point, but he is not hating Heavy Rain for what it is.

Jim Sterling said:
You've doubtless heard game director David Cage talking about his "interactive drama," likening it to movies and almost distancing it from videogames, trying to make out that it's something more than a mere game. I would like to direct you to the aforementioned promo material I received, and two statements that really stuck out for me. They are as follows:

* "Film Quality Narrative -- Heavy Rain brings a high-quality story filled with tension, emotion, intrigue, and dramatic sequences."
* "Hollywood Production Values -- From the length of the script, to the musical core, to the number of hours of motion capture, Heavy Rain is a vast and ambitious project that delivered a true film noir feel as well as production values that rival a cinematic experience."

Spotted the problem yet? If you haven't, let me make it clear -- Quantic Dream is not in the movie business. It's in the videogame business, and it should be comparing itself to the best of its medium, not the best of other mediums. When I see a game promoting itself by saying it's "movie quality," do you know what that says to me? It says that videogames are not as good as movies. It says that the more gaming emulates film, the better videogames will be. And that's bullshit.

It's a disservice to videogames to claim that your title is good because it's as entertaining as a movie. That essentially discredits the hard work of game writers and directors, who have a hard enough job as it is in trying to convince people that games are a legitimate work of creative entertainment. The last thing they need are having members of their own industry implying that credibility comes from a direct comparison to other mediums.
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Jim Sterling said:
I would ask that game developers stop looking from side to side and spend more time looking at themselves and the industry they chose to get into. Games don't need to be compared to movies. There has been so much wonderful writing, emotional attachment, astounding insight and technological achievement in the medium of interactive entertainment that we don't need to keep looking at books, films or television and trying to hold a measuring stick to them. Let videogames be judged by their own merits, not the merits of a completely different world.

Whether or not Heavy Rain succeeds in what it tries to do is a subject for another day, but the way in which Quantic Dream and Sony have chosen to promote the game seems to me to be a slap in the face of gaming in general. Let it not be said that Heavy Rain has "Hollywood production values" and a "Film quality narrative," Let it instead be said that Heavy Rain has "Sony production values" and a "Quantic Dream quality narrative."

Have some damn pride in yourself, in your industry, and in what you have created. Have enough respect for your creation that you let it stand on its own two legs without using Hollywood as a crutch. It's high time developers stopped living in the shadow of the movie world and started to cast some shadows of its own.
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He is against the promotion model and some comparisions.
 
Have some damn pride in yourself, in your industry, and in what you have created. Have enough respect for your creation that you let it stand on its own two legs without using Hollywood as a crutch. It's high time developers stopped living in the shadow of the movie world and started to cast some shadows of its own.
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This is complete bullshit and Exhibit A in why he is just fishing for attention. He just comes off as a spurned nerd who is bitter about being slapped in the face by someone who seeks to rise above the typical shitty videogame narrative.
 
I asked this once but... Does this game have point-and-click (like King's Quest, Police Quest, Phantasmagoria, etc.) features? :P
 
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