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Hillary Clinton Regains Momentum Against Donald Trump: Poll
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I see. Thank you.
ryutaro's mama
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LMAO @ Washington state being on that list...you have no idea what you are talking about, friend.
Stick to Trump Stanning. 🙂
wowbaggerBR
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The US kind deserves Trump after putting so many dictators on power in Latin America.
Empyrean Heaven
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You think that will stop it? Trump is the new Republican superstar. He has basically erased 50 years of ever-so-slight progressiveness in the GOP, and turned them from a party who was increasing its tolerance of other races, religions, and sexualities and sent them right back to the Jim Crow days. They straight up said they were going to have a more progressive party statement for 2016, and then Trump happened.
The only way that this can turn out well is if more progressive Republicans split off and form their own center-right party, or possibly join with the Libertarians who are likely going to get more powerful after this election with Johnson expected to breach 5%.
AuthenticM
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That the USA still has 45% of its voters support someone like Trump is already a disgrace.
Overall it's between 37% on a bad day and like 43% on a good day for trump in terms of support. He has never broken 45% in the majority of the polling aggregates/models in this election compared to romney.
Would never happen. If you are legit, your fear about guns driving you to condemn all minorities is just ridiculous. The Republicans are fear-mongering. Nothing more. You should, you know, actually listen to facts.
Overnight? NY would ban guns the same damn day. Shit's a scourge and should be far more controlled than it is.
That said, don't use this as an excuse to vote for nu-Hitler, own that shit.
DontBeThatGuy
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It's a lost cause.
AuthenticM
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still a disgrace
Fox Mulder
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Two party system and the winner picks Supreme Court justices that will be in place for decades.
EatinOlives
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Except for that I didn't say that. Note I said "invest in education" as well. That's the key difference.
In regards to this and their view on the trans community: I would like to believe it's not.
In the case of guns: Republicans have been saying for years that Democrats want to take away all guns. When 1) that hasn't happened. 2)no actual policy put forth by Democrats comes close to doing what the Republicans claim.
If Alucard is aware of the facts, then they are being dishonest and hiding why they want to vote for Trump.
If they aren't aware of the facts, I have to question why they are so scared of the facts changing their view on the matter given how invested they are in the fear-mongering in relation to guns.
In the case of trans identity: Alucard would do well to listen to the advice and words of others in the TransGaf community in regards to Alucard's own transness. They seem to have this belief they're too manly/can't transition when they totally could. And by extension because of their own view of themselves they're completely okay with screwing over everyone else in the trans community with a Trump presidency.
Everything about it comes across as lashing out at others because they feel they themselves are a lost cause. I don't believe they are. But they do need some serious help and be willing to take it.
Alex_Mexico
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That's only one poll. Overall you could say that Hillary is maybe stabilizing, but not improving.
Also, Trump flipped Florida recently.
As it stands, right now, Trump would only have to flip NH to win.
This post is making me really fucking nervous. Like, legit palm sweating.
Get your shit together, America!
It is a disgrace, no doubt.
On one hand, I have to believe that it's no more than 25% actual supporters (which is still way too high) and about 20% of "Hold my nose because anything but Hillary Clinton" Republicans.
Even so, imo, anyone voting for Trump is a deplorable, either by conviction, or association.
100%.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
#deplorables
Trump Makes Massive Gains with Black Voters
Anything's possible in this election. Just a week's a long time in politics and there's still a couple of months left.
Anything's possible in this election. Just a week's a long time in politics and there's still a couple of months left.
It's lifezette. We need better sources.
I mean. Pretty much. Republicans are despicable hoomin beings for what they wish to do their fellow humans. We can't mince words with them when we let them run rampant with their hate-speech/laws for decades. Let's just be blatant and less PC about how deplorable any Republican period is. Isn't that what Trump wants anyway? (Obviously not in use against him/the fascists he's aligned himself with of course) Let's be scathing to the scum of humanity.
balladofwindfishes
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When a poll shows such a drastic change in numbers like that, you should always question what is going on. Support doesn't just increase by 16% in a week, that didn't even happen for Hillary right after the convention.
Yeah, cautiously "optimistic" that a lot of it is just "I will always vote Republican over Democrat." But that isn't a very healthy mindset either because it ignores if a candidate is capable and has solid policies in favor of just blindly following a party, and that can exacerbate the problem as it enables Tea Party nuts to infiltrate the party or Trump to be considered a legitimate candidate at all, then as a consequence others like me go all D because the Republicans currently are largely toxic (and I don't think there's any respectable ones in the running where I'm at anyway.)
Veritigo_X
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I mean, yeah? Or do you think those that want a white nationalist as our president are good people? It's hard to gather what you're trying to say here. Usually I see that hashtag being used as a badge of honor by actual white supremacists on twitter, used in conjunction with pepe memes with David Duke and Milo photoshopped onto it.
One key difference between the Federal AWB and recent state laws (CA and MA specifically) is that the AWB grandfathered in pre-ban items. The MA AG's clarification of their state AWB did not grandfather anything, and the new CA laws do not grandfather magazines or other previously compliant devices, and prevents transfer of weapons that were grandfathered, even in cases of inheritance from deceased parent to living child.
CA is especially troubling to gun owners because CA previously required registration of affected weapons, and said registration will now be used for some level of confiscation through the-above mentioned law that the weapon "dies" with you.
Additionally, with the MA AG's clarification of the state's AWB, there was little to no time for owners to prepare. People impacted felt as if they woke up one morning and were suddenly felons. That's a huge deal to the gun-owning community. Others may not understand why, or they may not sympathize, but it creates distrust and in the eyes of gun owners it invalidates claims that "they're not coming to take away your guns."
DontBeThatGuy
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6%? So, that "what the hell do you have to lose" garbage is actually working?
Going to black churches is probably helping.
That poster supports Drumpf so....Probs saying it as a badge of honor.
ElectricBlanketFire
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The fact that this isn't a slam dunk for Clinton is ridiculous.
Isn't that where he's been pretty much the whole time?
Lots of Americans are frankly speaking pure evil. Be it by malice or ignorance they are. The ignorant ones could still perhaps learn but the ones who operate by malice are a lost cause. That's the unfortunate reason as to why it's not. Even conservatives should be sickened by the amount of shit Drumpf spews but let's be real here. He's only speaking to the same bs that their media has for decades. They deserve Drumpf. And frankly deserve to lose all relevancy as a party. The rest of America sure as hell doesn't tho.
DontBeThatGuy
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I'm pretty sure he's polled closer to 0 among AA the vast majority of the time, maybe hitting 2% here and there?
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
I would have been a slam dunk for Bernie.
bob_arctor
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Plus he has Don King promoting him! That can only help.
tedrotheredro
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Lol, pure evil is a bit harsh, no? Low empathy with an unsubstantiated victim complex is my explanation.
Me as well. Which is why supporting a man who holds the complete opposite views in regards to policy baffles me. Bernie and Trump hold nothing in common. If you ever want a shot at Bernie's america, you don't throw a temper tantrum and elect a man who will regress the country for decades thanks to the SC. You elect the one who is closet to his ideals.
Not to mention Hillary is the best chance to get rid of CU considering it was made to target her. But why let pesky things like facts get in the way of your diehard belief that Trump will actually do a single positive thing for the people.
I mean, he won't harm straight white christian rich cis-men, sure. But anyone else will most definitely face hardship. Which you seem to be perfectly fine with by supporting Trump so that speaks to how little you actually cared about Bernie's message.
Mercury Fred
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Not at all.
I'm not going to mince words with the party that wants to legalize torture for millions and set back civil rights. They are pure evil. And all Republicans are be it by purposeful malice or ignorance due to eating up fear-mongering. The ignorant ones can at least have the potential to change. The ones who operate by malice are a lost cause.
I agree, they have low empathy and they most definitely have victim complexes. I'm not going to sugar-coat it though. Those two factors tie directly into why they're scumbags.
We should listen to the concerns of the disenfranchised who are voting for Republicans out of ignorance. We should. What we shouldn't do is continue to let this extremist right-wing walk all over us.
Dyson Industries
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...ok
DontBeThatGuy
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Oh, he's plenty capable of doing that as well.
Oh, he'll harm them economically, sure. Since that demographic is often the one left suffering from right-wing economic policies. And that is one of my biggest issues personally. But in regards to civil rights they'll be just fine.
DontBeThatGuy
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Yes, absolutely.
Bernie lost get over it.
AuthenticM
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That would be amazing.
Alex_Mexico
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Stop listening to Hannity and talk radio. As much as I'd like the 2nd amendment abolished it's not happening.
Rabbi_Vole
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I will vote for Hillary if she can perform an unassisted slam dunk on a regulation goal. Tongue out optional.
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