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ZombieFred
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Interfectum said:
Well to be fair it was only in one game out of the series. The main thing I would be worried was if they ever removed the results and your ranking at the end of each mission.
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Hitman Absolution Director: "We won't be dictated to by the fans"
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Well to be fair it was only in one game out of the series. The main thing I would be worried was if they ever removed the results and your ranking at the end of each mission.
XANDER CAGE
Member
Interfectum said:
That was only in Blood Money.
Joseph Merrick
Member
:arr it wasBrobzoid said:mini ninjas was cool damn it
FrontalMonk
Banned
don't know if trollDMczaf said:
I guess, in this case they feel they have IP awareness because of the movie?
Why else would you take a beloved hardcore game, and change it so that the built in audience for the game is going to hate it?
Just so you can try appeal to the fickle mainstream/COD crowd? Who most likely will just ignore it? Now you are left with a dead IP, you have alienated the fans, and failed to get the critical mass of new ones that you were hoping for.
I just really don't get it in most cases. In this case, because of the movie, I at least understand how they could be led down this idiotic path, but it is no excuse.
Why else would you take a beloved hardcore game, and change it so that the built in audience for the game is going to hate it?
Just so you can try appeal to the fickle mainstream/COD crowd? Who most likely will just ignore it? Now you are left with a dead IP, you have alienated the fans, and failed to get the critical mass of new ones that you were hoping for.
I just really don't get it in most cases. In this case, because of the movie, I at least understand how they could be led down this idiotic path, but it is no excuse.
XANDER CAGE
Member
DMczaf said:
Won't someone PLEASE think of the fans!?
"Developers, make your own game according to your own vision! Unless we don't like it. Then make exactly what we want. Otherwise we'll bitch all day long.
Also don't use focus groups. Unless said focus group is comprised entirely of people who like exactly the kind of games that we like."
Also don't use focus groups. Unless said focus group is comprised entirely of people who like exactly the kind of games that we like."
Joseph Merrick
Member
:arr it wasBrobzoid said:mini ninjas was cool damn it
we shall see how death to spies 3 turns out (or Ghost of Moscow: Death to Spies, as it's called now LOL). it looks like they are doing some weird changes to that as well. although it certainly could use some improvements, death to spies moment of truth is one of my absolute favourite games from the last few years, and weird magic vision modes definitely will not improve it.Van Buren said:
ShinobiFist
Banned
duckroll said:
Hitman games allows you to play the game anyway you want, that's the beauty of them. Trying to get a "Perfect Assassin" rating is up to you. The great thing about Hitman games is the replay value of them. trying to get that ranking is fun as hell to me. Reloading on missions to me is similar to "training" before the actual combat. If Hitman games had mock stages of the actual mission before you start the real one, would that help? I think so. But reloading was the only option for such a thing back then.
phosphor112
Banned
Looks like I'm never buying that game. =]
Fuck you IO, FUCK YOU!
Speedymanic
Banned
duffyside said:
Actually, there's nothing to think about as it's pretty obvious they are listening to the wrong 'fans'.
I'd actually really like to meet the Hitman fans who suggested/asked them to remove the map, restrict freedom, add in a checkpoint system that makes levels less emergent and more linear and add a mode that allows you to look through walls, enter disguise mode, see guard paths and generally act like a god tier mode...
MMaRsu
Banned
He sees the oldschool hitman games like that? No wonder we are getting a fucking gimped ass bullshit hitman game.
No fucking buy, no goddamn way. Maybe in a bargain bin or second hand. The idiocracy these developers have shown towards their FANS and the people who made the old games fantastic is just puke worthy.
Fuck you io, FUCK YOU.
staticneuron
Member
I liked conviction, while I felt it was a departure from the earlier cannon, I still enjoyed the title. If the new hitman is going to be as enjoyable, I think I might give it a try.
MMaRsu
Banned
Aside from my previous post I would like to add I'm getting really fucking sick of developers telling us and press "you know that old game we made that you all liked? It wasn't really that good after all, instead here's everything that was wrong with it, and we are determinated to fix it in this here sequel!"
It's like Molyneux all over again. "Yeah Fable II wasn't as great as we wanted to make it, but in Fable III everything is much better!"
So you're telling me the game I really like is shit? Fuck you.
It's like Molyneux all over again. "Yeah Fable II wasn't as great as we wanted to make it, but in Fable III everything is much better!"
So you're telling me the game I really like is shit? Fuck you.
MMaRsu
Banned
Anastacio said:
Please, just print out this thread on a huge piece of paper and stick it all over their office. Make them read that.
Dabanton said:
Uhm doing away with your loyal VA staff and throw in some damn Hollywood actor who nobody even cares about shows me how much they really care about the Hitman franchise. They just want that mainstream money while making a game that tries to cater to the idiot demographic who needs instinct to complete the game and the people who loved their old games.
I'm already done with this game though, I'm not going to support these assholes.
-BLITZ-
Member
Speedymanic said:
They made up about this excuse. IO took note that, if other developers manage to make the series as one by the other every year just for profit (COD, NFS, Conviction, etc), why not to do as well like the others. I don't know, something is fishy about this answers from them. They are involved in other things.
All I think is that in what we are looking now at IO are other young new people with some ideas and few but their personal interest is more directed to money, yo know everybody what's to be famous than the other game company. We lost the old talented people.
Superimposer
This is getting weirder all the time
I just can't express my indignation and exasperation at the comments. Why won't you listen to the fans? They're the ones who are your damn audience, not Singstar fans in a fucking focus group. I'm prepared to eat my words but I don't think I'm going to have to... this game is going to suck fucking balls. Such a disappointment.
ShinobiFist
Banned
Yup, to "John Doe" so awesome.tiff said:
Broder Salsa
Banned
I won't buy your games either so guess that's fair.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Well, the quote in the header is nothing to be concerned about, you cant make a game dictated by the fans, that just wont end up being good.
As for the rest of the interview ... yeah, not so great.
As for the rest of the interview ... yeah, not so great.
Joseph Merrick
Member
bu bu bu bu don't press printscrn before I can say FUCK YOU IO
(also fuck you haggard and 1c)
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bluedeviltron
Member
Lol'd @ X button controller.
He's absolutely correct, though.
He's absolutely correct, though.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Always try to know what your fans like, but (generally) never listen to them about specifics.
Unfortunately, it sounds like IO doesn't even know what their fans like going into the project. Maybe this is just another case of trying to "expand the audience" (read: shit on your long-time fans to try--and almost certainly fail--to reach the dudebro audience and casuals).
Unfortunately, it sounds like IO doesn't even know what their fans like going into the project. Maybe this is just another case of trying to "expand the audience" (read: shit on your long-time fans to try--and almost certainly fail--to reach the dudebro audience and casuals).
Gunmonkey36
Member
I generally don't like to make statements like this, but I hope this game fails hard. Like under 100k copies hard.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Speedymanic said:
That quote says everything about this game design. This is NO Hitman game. This is alternate Splinter Cell Universe.
fredrancour
Member
Mindlog said:
Interfectum
Member
BigJiantRobut said:
True, still a worthy addition to the series and one that should have been expanded upon, not taken out completely.
ElRenoRaven
Member
MMaRsu said:
Oh yea. That's just such bullshit. I hate that with a passion.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
I don't think Squeenix executives meddled here. At least, they didn't for Deus Ex: Human Revolution. This particular stupidity is likely purely on the part of the dev team.fredrancour said:
MMaRsu
Banned
Tacitus_ said:
Those shops were made to show the developers how far they are taking things. It's an comic relief example of something that we don't want the game to turn into.
And like those people are the only fans they could listen to. They know what we ( the real fans ) want. They just don't give a fuck and are chasing that $$$$$$$$
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Hmmm... will cancel the preorder. What a shame.