MrCunningham
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I'd hate to burst your bubble...
I thought they were going with AMD for their CPU? Is it ARM now, or something?
I'd hate to burst your bubble...
Go hardcore
Release a powerful console, advertise it as such, get same architecture as the others, make some exclusivity dlc deal with a few big 3rd party games
Ditch gimmicks, Pro controller only
Nintendo should pay Apple to design their hardware for them.
Make the hardware look cool and have Apple branding to attract widespread marketshare. Nintendo left to focus on making quality games.
start acting like a company that get's most of its revenue from North America, instead of a Japanese company that happens to release stuff in North America. Before it even builds the damn console, start talking to developers all over the world to negotiate what they want with what it can provide (probably while still being profitable or near-profitable on hardware). This might require Nintendo to let go of the Japanese console market -- which may already be a lost cause, when designing its hardware. It should still definitely develop the games it does, which remain internationally successful, but it should take overseas developers into heavy consideration when designing the hardware and infrastructure. Japanese developers will probably follow the success of Nintendo's own software (or go multiplatform).
Most people are saying, basically, "make a PlayStation that plays Nintendo games." That's what people have wanted since the N64 days.
There are various components to all this, so I'll just state the most important one: make a console third parties actually want to develop for.
Nintendo's biggest problem is that it has basically never played ball with third parties. Even during the NES and SNES days the only reason Nintendo got third party support is because publishers were forced to play their game due to Nintendo's gigantic market share. As soon as publishers found a way out the deal, they never came back. Nintendo hasn't fully adjusted since.
In that regard Nintendo kinda just gave up around 2005/2006. The Wii and Wii U have been partly focused on offering low-wattage machines for the Japanese market, an objective the AAA publishers don't give a shit about. For the PS4 Sony has basically done the opposite. The PS3's early troubles were due to it being a very Japanese platform right at the time Microsoft turned the console game industry into an American industry. In response Sony allowed PlayStatoin to become an almost entirely American operation with Cerny, the focus on western studios, the move to x86, etc.
Nintendo did what they did because they don't think there's enough room for a third competing console in the AAA market, and I think they're right, especially seeing how stagnant the core console gaming consumer base has become. To that end they've focused on a different audience which worked with the Wii, but Nintendo really let that drop around 2010. Now mobiles have taken up that market.
For starters I think for there to be enough marketshare in the traditional console market for Nintendo to grab, either Sony or Microsoft would have to seriously fuck up. One of them would have to make huge mistakes at the same time at which Nintendo makes moves with freaking clairvoyance.
After that, Nintendo would have to, generally speaking, start acting like a company that get's most of its revenue from North America, instead of a Japanese company that happens to release stuff in North America. Before it even builds the damn console, start talking to developers all over the world to negotiate what they want with what it can provide (probably while still being profitable or near-profitable on hardware). This might require Nintendo to let go of the Japanese console market -- which may already be a lost cause, when designing its hardware. It should still definitely develop the games it does, which remain internationally successful, but it should take overseas developers into heavy consideration when designing the hardware and infrastructure. Japanese developers will probably follow the success of Nintendo's own software (or go multiplatform).
This would also probably require Nintendo to give NOA a lot more power, which is unlikely to happen. Some might reference the N64 era when Nintendo's software output actually was a lot more NA-centric. Back then the western side was run by a guy who was in deep with the Yamauchi family. Something tells me some kind of Kyoto-style family business politics still play heavily into how Nintendo operates, and that previous era was a result of one westerner making it inside. Sony on the other hand is a much more internationally-run company. Nintendo being a Kyoto-based company is probably a very central factor in how it behaves in regards to the rest of the world, but it's something I don't have a lot of knowledge on.
Not sure if it's been said ITT, but Nintendo hasn't yet lost this gen. It's not over yet. With a proper marketing push and a Wii Sports Resort 2 (now in HD!) they could probably once again trounce everyone. The good games on Wii are not what sold the Wii.
Not sure if it's been said ITT, but Nintendo hasn't yet lost this gen. It's not over yet. With a proper marketing push and a Wii Sports Resort 2 (now in HD!) they could probably once again trounce everyone. The good games on Wii are not what sold the Wii.
Lmao
Not sure if it's been said ITT, but Nintendo hasn't yet lost this gen. It's not over yet. With a proper marketing push and a Wii Sports Resort 2 (now in HD!) they could probably once again trounce everyone. The good games on Wii are not what sold the Wii.
Bring back these brands for Japan and the western world:
But obviously go beyond the "Super".
Switch to Nvidia "Denver" ARM 64 + Pascal graphics (2016-2017).
Nintendo has a major branding issue. They have absolutely zero appeal outside of children and die hard Nintendo fans. Casuals who purchased Wii's are not coming back, and the remaining core gaming market will have nothing to do with the brand. And we know they won't mess with the brand.
I don't see a way out. They'll continue to milk hardcore fans as the userbase keeps dropping. Then they'll either be purchased or go third party.
They aren't even smart enough to do THAT.
I WANT to give them another $250 for an N3DS.
But I want the regular version.
A version that EVERYFUCKINGWHERE ELSE ON THE GOD DAMNED PLANET gets.
But I do not?
Fuck right off, Nintendo... fuck right off.
Across the last two gens, I bought a DS, a 3DS, a Wii, and a Wii U.
I won't be giving them another dime, next gen.
Sodomize Nintendo with a Steam shovel, for treating me as less than the rest.
Sodomize Nintendo with a Steam shovel, for treating me as less than the rest.
Nintendo has a major branding issue. They have absolutely zero appeal outside of children and die hard Nintendo fans. Casuals who purchased Wii's are not coming back, and the remaining core gaming market will have nothing to do with the brand. And we know they won't mess with the brand.
I don't see a way out. They'll continue to milk hardcore fans as the userbase keeps dropping. Then they'll either be purchased or go third party.
You need to chill out bro. Sorry the US Market didn't lap up the regular sized 3DS when they had the chance.
How many plastic figurines did you buy though?
If anything I think going back to that would be confusing.
And that sounds really confusing to me. I also think a lot of the other things you listed would hurt more than help.What I'm saying is Nintendo needs to resurrect the Famicom and Nintendo Entertainment System brands, in a modern sense. From name, casing and hardware components.
Get developers and publishers really excited to work on the platform. $249 ~ $299 price point. A clear leap beyond PS4. Game assets can be scaled back for the new handheld / common Nintendo OS.
A serious and sensible online network. Market towards both the hardcore and mainstream gamers, with children and casual gamers included but secondary. Needs an outstanding but fairly conventional controller with some nice new features yet zero gimmicks.
If the next system were to focus more on the hardcore, it will definitely end up like the GC or the Wii U... The best they can do is attract the Wii crowd.
I don't see Nintendo gaining back the core home console market anymore... It ended during the reign of the PS1.
Hardware this. Hardware that. Sod that. Take a leaf out of Valve, Google & Apple's book and have a storefront with a universal OS as the platform.
NintendOS. Nintendo eShop.
The hardware(s) can play second fiddle.
I think they need to buckle down even more in the face of adversity. A lot of the trouble Nintendo faces right now isn't their fault. The market change was sudden, and no one could have predicted what would happen. It's more that consumers sent the incorrect signals, and they couldn't have anticipated what would happen.
The fact is that Nintendo IPs are the strongest in the gaming industry, and they can carry an ecosystem quite comfortably. Replayability in games is a huge thing, and one Mario game can last someone many months, so the argument used by detractors regarding sparse releases doesn't make sense. This isn't like playing a generic AAA production where you'll tire out after ten hours. It's about longevity, and Mario has lasted for decades already, which tells you the most significant fact. People loves these games, and always play them. The difference in the meticulously planned mechanics allows for several playthroughs which are dynamic.
A lot of people talk about third party support, but that's hypocrisy at its finest. How many times do you see complaints about the same generic big game amongst the hardcore community? Why does Nintendo need these games? So they can pretend to be someone else? Here's a truth that people are uncomfortable to accept, Nintendo doesn't need to be someone else. They don't need to appeal with media content. They don't need to say we're going to be the same. They don't need to do any of that. Nintendo is Nintendo. People play games, that's what it comes down to. Nintendo has games, and they just need to make people aware of that. It's that simple.
A great man once said, never give up. That's how you overcome adversity. I truly think Nintendo will be able to do it, and a few years from now, this period will be looked back on regret by many for mocking the fathers of the modern gaming industry.
Placating traditional AAA 3rd parties is an obvious non-starter. That's only a sure road to ruin for Nintendo.The amount of responses that say "make a console like everyone else. Then third parties will be back with their aaa killing games and ______.... profit!" is truly, truly predictable and disappointing.
This would be the nail in Nintendo's coffin. As much as many of us would enjoy this console.