Blackquill
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How do you think Nintendo should handle Smash 4 Port on Switch?
- Thread starter ShadowFox08
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Fast Forward
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All stages/content from both versions, All DLC, and a couple of new characters, like fan requests like Ice Climbers. I for one would like to see Young Link, along with Toon Link. Also a few more retro stages.
Also, a nitpick here, but can we please call it Super Smash Bros. 4 Deluxe? Official name literally being "Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U" always sounded dumb to me. Really dumb.
Also, a nitpick here, but can we please call it Super Smash Bros. 4 Deluxe? Official name literally being "Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U" always sounded dumb to me. Really dumb.
For all the people mentioning "Smash Deluxe", it definitely won't be called that, considering that there already is a Smash Deluxe (it's the Japanese name for Melee).
Honestly the things that would get the biggest applause from me are:
- Port the 3DS stages (I don't even care if the textures are still 3DS quality)
- Port Smash Run
- Port the 3DS Classic mode, rename the Wii U Classic mode
- Make custom moves settable from the character select
- Make custom moves easier to unlock
- Split custom moves from equipment. Fix it so that the Random character has no equipment when moves are turned on
- Add a hazard toggle (if you want to go all in do it My Music style)
- Bring back offline tourneys
- Swap the shoulder buttons back the way they're supposed to be
New characters would be nice but I don't need them, and this stuff is mostly simpler
- Port the 3DS stages (I don't even care if the textures are still 3DS quality)
- Port Smash Run
- Port the 3DS Classic mode, rename the Wii U Classic mode
- Make custom moves settable from the character select
- Make custom moves easier to unlock
- Split custom moves from equipment. Fix it so that the Random character has no equipment when moves are turned on
- Add a hazard toggle (if you want to go all in do it My Music style)
- Bring back offline tourneys
- Swap the shoulder buttons back the way they're supposed to be
New characters would be nice but I don't need them, and this stuff is mostly simpler
ShadowFox08
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Nah.. Considering how the Wii U sold and how many people that didn't buy a Wii U could buy Smash and Mario Kart, its really easy money to port the Wii U version with all the 3DS content with all the DLC. I can't think of any solid reason not to miss this opportunity. They don't have to add new content per se, but it would really help. If Nintendo came out with adventure mode, it would literally be that battlemode fix the wii u version of MK8 didn't have, and could have smash deluxe port retain a solid mid 90s score.
Would still work for the US and Europe.
But it will likely be called "Super Smash Bros for Nintendo Switch" to keep it line with the others.
Fast Forward
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I agree, but I think that will happen. Nintendo will announce/show SSB4 Deluxe (or whatever it may be called) at this year's E3, and release it by year's end. SSB4 and Super Mario Oddesy would make a nice one-two punch for the holiday season.
I would be pretty happy with all the DLC, the 3DS stages and modes ported over, maybe a few new/returning characters (Wolf and Ice Climbers seem like obvious returning character choices, maybe Inklings as new characters, possibly Charazard made Pokemon trainer again) and a few new or returning classic stages.
Candescence
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Sorry, I goofed the wording of my post - what I actually meant was basically it'd be more work than a straight port but not as much as building another game from scratch. An "Ultimate" or "Super" edition ala Street Fighter would suit Smash fairly well and reasonably appropriate for a new platform, a full sequel wouldn't make sense outside of the addition of a new story mode or some other big new feature to justify it.
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I think that'd definitely be the title.
polyh3dron
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Give me all DLC and GameCube controller adapter compatibility, plus 4 player mixed joycon/pro controller/grip/gc controller multiplayer, and I'll be happy.
Obviously the adapter wouldn't work when not docked, but as long as all the other control schemes work, all good.
Obviously the adapter wouldn't work when not docked, but as long as all the other control schemes work, all good.
Needs less lag on everything.
I personally would expect it to be an early 2018 title. So it would give them some more time for development and helps against software droughts in upcoming year.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Remove the terrible board game, add Smash Run
It doesn't complicate it at all. "Super Smash Bros for Switch" in the fall, "Super Smash Bros. SubtitleGoesHere" three years later. They'll both sell millions and there will be no issue.
lol they're not dropping the name "Super Smash Bros."
And there's no story so there's nothing to reboot.
Wolfgang Jr
Banned
How? That's like getting Forza Horizon 2 mixed up with Forza Horizon 3. They'll be called different things, if you're dumb enough to buy the wrong thing, sucks to be you, or return it for the other one.
It will most likely to be a port that combines the content from the 3DS and Wii U versions with a few new and returning characters although I'd prefer they treat it as Smash 5 by combining all the content of Smash 4, giving it a substantial update with new content, and bringing back all the stages and characters from previous games as regular content updates over the years.
- All the content from 3DS/WiiU with touched up 3DS stages
- All the DLCs included
- A few new characters and arenas (inklings, Elma, ice climbers, ribbon girl and spring man with relative stages)
- Offline tournaments
Do this (which i consider to be the bare minimum tbh) and i'm in at d1.
- All the DLCs included
- A few new characters and arenas (inklings, Elma, ice climbers, ribbon girl and spring man with relative stages)
- Offline tournaments
Do this (which i consider to be the bare minimum tbh) and i'm in at d1.
ZombiePlatypus
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I'm down for everything you mentioned OP.
All I'd want added is Snake and freaking KOSMOS.
All I'd want added is Snake and freaking KOSMOS.
Probably but would prefer Super Smash Bros All Stars
Bah to KOSMOS, if you're that gagging for a Namco represtitive this side of the 90's then Lloyd for sure.
ZombiePlatypus
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I mean, I won't say no to Lloyd.
I think PlayStation have tainted that moniker.
ZombiePlatypus
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I didn't even think it was a possibility that Cloud wouldn't be included. He MUST be since they're giving him two amiibos.
xochipiltontli
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- Ice Climbers
- Inkling
- Rhythm Heaven character
- Spring Man
- Bomberman
- All DLC characters
- SOME of the 3DS stages... I personally feel like most of them are garbage. Give me Yoshi's Island, Pac-Maze, Birdman-less Magicant, and Corneria. That's about it.
- Splatoon stage, ARMS stage, Bomberman stage, RH stage.
- More trophies.
- Balance updates and maybe some small changes to overall gameplay.
- Make Bayonetta's default design her Bayo 1 outfit/hairdo.
- A rudimentary adventure mode similar to Melee's.
- A menu that isn't a mess
- A commitment to more balance updates and dlc.
They were smart and got rid of subtitles for the last entries so they could just call it Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch and pass it off as a non port with the above updates and a slightly different presentation. Seeing as it hasn't been announced yet but has been heavily rumored, I'm assuming that's probably what's going to happen.
- Inkling
- Rhythm Heaven character
- Spring Man
- Bomberman
- All DLC characters
- SOME of the 3DS stages... I personally feel like most of them are garbage. Give me Yoshi's Island, Pac-Maze, Birdman-less Magicant, and Corneria. That's about it.
- Splatoon stage, ARMS stage, Bomberman stage, RH stage.
- More trophies.
- Balance updates and maybe some small changes to overall gameplay.
- Make Bayonetta's default design her Bayo 1 outfit/hairdo.
- A rudimentary adventure mode similar to Melee's.
- A menu that isn't a mess
- A commitment to more balance updates and dlc.
They were smart and got rid of subtitles for the last entries so they could just call it Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch and pass it off as a non port with the above updates and a slightly different presentation. Seeing as it hasn't been announced yet but has been heavily rumored, I'm assuming that's probably what's going to happen.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Smash needs a gameplay reboot imo. Controversial opinion I'm sure, but Smash 4 is too convoluted and gimmick-based. I'd love for the series to return to a formula similar to 64, so in essence Smash 64 2 lol.
But since that won't happen, just add Bomberman.
But since that won't happen, just add Bomberman.
wildvine47
Member
- All of the 3DS and Wii U content + DLC in one place on disc
- This includes Smash Run, which is updated to have characters able to interact with each other within a session, and there is an options menu to change time limits and rules
- 3 vets: Ice Climbers, Snake, Wolf
- 3 Newcomers: Inklings, Ridley (the dream will never die), King K. Rool (never die I tell you)
- Separate Alph from Olimar as originally planned, give Alph Rock Pikmin to use to differentiate him.
- A proportional amount of new/returning stages not in Smash 3DS/Wii U
- A full rebalance of the roster, focusing on getting the lower half of the tier list caught up (#BuffThePuff)
- Custom moves for the previously DLC characters and the newly added ones.
- Break the Targets/Board the Platforms/Race to the Finish
- Player 2 amiibos for the remaining characters with alternate costumes like Robin and Wii Fit Trainer
- If they're feeling particularly generous, a new wave of DLC just like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is inevitably going to get. This is where I'd be ok with an ARMS character making it in once the series has had a chance to prove itself. Let the game prove it's actually worthwhile before it earns a character slot in Nintendo's most prestigious crossover. Same with new-on-the scene indies like Yooka-Laylee, who are way too new to get anywhere near this game. They need to be at least the level of Shovel Knight/Shantae to even be considered imo.
There's no way in hell all of this will happen but this is how they SHOULD do it.
- This includes Smash Run, which is updated to have characters able to interact with each other within a session, and there is an options menu to change time limits and rules
- 3 vets: Ice Climbers, Snake, Wolf
- 3 Newcomers: Inklings, Ridley (the dream will never die), King K. Rool (never die I tell you)
- Separate Alph from Olimar as originally planned, give Alph Rock Pikmin to use to differentiate him.
- A proportional amount of new/returning stages not in Smash 3DS/Wii U
- A full rebalance of the roster, focusing on getting the lower half of the tier list caught up (#BuffThePuff)
- Custom moves for the previously DLC characters and the newly added ones.
- Break the Targets/Board the Platforms/Race to the Finish
- Player 2 amiibos for the remaining characters with alternate costumes like Robin and Wii Fit Trainer
- If they're feeling particularly generous, a new wave of DLC just like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is inevitably going to get. This is where I'd be ok with an ARMS character making it in once the series has had a chance to prove itself. Let the game prove it's actually worthwhile before it earns a character slot in Nintendo's most prestigious crossover. Same with new-on-the scene indies like Yooka-Laylee, who are way too new to get anywhere near this game. They need to be at least the level of Shovel Knight/Shantae to even be considered imo.
There's no way in hell all of this will happen but this is how they SHOULD do it.
nephilimdj
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Nov 2017 - Smash Celebration $50
Smash 64 remaster
Melee straight port with new graphic options added
Music player featuring songs from every game
documentary
May 2017 - Smash Wii U port
Crappy mini games removed
Classic melee homerun
Resdesigned UI
All DLC
Smash 64 remaster
Melee straight port with new graphic options added
Music player featuring songs from every game
documentary
May 2017 - Smash Wii U port
Crappy mini games removed
Classic melee homerun
Resdesigned UI
All DLC
Leafhopper
Banned
Nah.
MoogleMan
Member
I think they'll announce it at e3 this year to launch with their paid online service.
Probably a deluxe edition like mario kart 8 with all dlc and a few new tidbits to keep things sorta fresh. Also, probably compatibility with the wii u smash gc controller adapter or a rebrand/launch of that.
Probably a deluxe edition like mario kart 8 with all dlc and a few new tidbits to keep things sorta fresh. Also, probably compatibility with the wii u smash gc controller adapter or a rebrand/launch of that.
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It seems my post was poorly worded. My apologies.
I meant that it complicates things from a marketing perspective (to be specific, I'm thinking of the company-wide naming practices that fall under marketing responsibilities at a company) because Nintendo has historically used a system's name in a title when it was the only entry on a system. For example, Mario Kart 64, DS and Wii became the only Mario Kart games on those systems. Smash Bros. just did something similar with Wii U and 3DS. I was thinking of how, AFAIK, Nintendo has traditionally used a console title in their games when they've positioned a title as the franchise entry for that console generation. I was attempting to think about marketing here in the way that internal brand managers might and called it a complication because it deviates from past company policy (from what I can tell) if/when the next SSB game releases on Switch. That's not to say that I was thinking of it correctly; it was just speculation about internal brand policy and how it is executed.
I agree that a sequel would use a new subtitle like past games. What I meant by "reboot" was something that breaks Smash's pattern of sequential growth and expansion with more modes, characters, music, trophies, etc. with each entry. I would not be surprised if Smash 5 is a refocusing of the franchise rather than another attempt at 1-upping the game that came before it in terms of scale. "reboot" was poor word choice without proper explanation because of its connotations and meanings for other media. I can't imagine Nintendo ever dropping the Super Smash Bros. name.
I suspect I'm still not communicating my thoughts well. I can summarize my thoughts on what Nintendo will do as the following:
I expect a Smash 4 port to be called Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch. In X amount of years, when the next Smash game is made, I expect it to be called Super Smash Bros. _______.
Sword wielding Fire Emblem fighters.
giancarlo123x
Banned
This is easy, have all the stages, modes, and content of the 3ds and Wii u together on this version, all the dlc, and a few new characters. 60 dollars from my pocket easy.
See I imagine a game that is branded entirely as a sequel, but still built off the foundations of Smash 4.
Maybe this time it could even be called Super Smash Bros. 5
If we get new stuff or the Deluxe treatment, I'm hoping for this:
I'd love some more characters and I could see the Inklings making the cut, IF they can figure out some splat things with the engine. I'd also love someone from ARMS and King K. Rool as always. If there is another 3rd Party character, I'd have my bets on Bomberman.
- Stage hazard triggers
- Offline Tournaments and maybe online rooms like Mario Kart
- All exclusive Stages from the 3DS version (I want the Great Fox back)
- All prior DLC
I'd love some more characters and I could see the Inklings making the cut, IF they can figure out some splat things with the engine. I'd also love someone from ARMS and King K. Rool as always. If there is another 3rd Party character, I'd have my bets on Bomberman.
Quintin DM
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-All content from 3DS & Wii U versions
-All DLC on disc
-A couple new characters and stages
-All DLC on disc
-A couple new characters and stages