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JJDinomite, you should stan for Taylor Swift. She's a real artist by your definition. She writes, composes, and produces all Her music, and even has an album where every writing and composition credit is Hers alone. Slay!

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Fusebox said:
Nobody has kept it real since Milli Vanilli, those guys kept it real.
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I wouldn't go that far, but they certainly were pioneers when it came to putting on concerts where they performed by not singing the songs that they didn't write.


Oh, snarky comment aside, considering that pop vocalists are now expected to have a dance routine for every song, I'm not surprised they have to lip sync. Also, I'm a fan of the Spice Girls, a catchy song is a catchy song.
 
JJDinomite said:
But you guys didn't prove me wrong because pop artists still don't write their own songs, which was the initial argument. Am I talking to five year olds? Posting a bunch of animated GIFs doesn't make someone right.
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Wait.

They identified a number of very popular, mainstream pop stars both current and past who wrote and co-wrote their own songs, and criticized the very premise of the topic that writing your songs is a necessary prerequisite to being respected as a musician or as an artist by pointing out examples of singers who did not write but are well-respected for their interpretive abilities.

... So in what world were you not proven wrong?
 
Mumei said:
Wait.

They identified a number of very popular, mainstream pop stars both current and past who wrote and co-wrote their own songs, and criticized the very premise of the topic that writing your songs is a necessary prerequisite to being respected as a musician or as an artist by pointing out examples of singers who did not write but are well-respected for their interpretive abilities.

... So in what world were you not proven wrong?
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Keep it cute, y'all.

PopGAF's den mother has arrived.

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DMeisterJ said:
For two years you have been trying it in various threads that deal with POPGAF. For someone who is seemingly uninterested an the music, you constantly are buzzing around for no reason.

GIVE IT UP
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while you were gathering these blanks did you by any chance hear the roar of a jet engine pass over your house summer camp bunkbed*.

*location changed to reflect navy demographics tbh
 
royalan said:
J.Lo is actually incredibly talented. She is the perfect Pop vehicle. She can sing well enough for a producer to be able to work with her, while to this day being one of the fiercest performers in the business.
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Yeah, but he seemed to be pretty clearly talking about her vocals, and she doesn't even attain mediocrity.
 
Actually, I'm curious. True Artiste Brandy Norwood only has a single songwriting credit on her magnum opus Afrodisiac for the track 'Finally', but she helped to produce every single song on the album. So how would a 'real music fan' define her, because she may not have been involved in the conceptual stage but she basically helped mould each song into a masterpiece?

Moreover, she stated that: "Everything I do has something to do with what I've gone through in my life [and] I definitely wanted to incorporate that in my art. It makes it more real when you add what's been going on in your life in your music. I've grown and I've gone through some things in my life, and I celebrate that, I honor that."

So her music is basically hers in every way and she has an emotional connection to it but because of her lack of writing credits we're supposed to discount its artistry?

Mumei said:
Yeah, but he seemed to be pretty clearly talking about her vocals, and she doesn't even attain mediocrity.
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omg, bye. I wonder how many more recording engineers have similar stories to tell
 
JJDinomite said:
Pop stars don't write their own songs? I always found it funny how whenever a new hit song is released, PopGAF loses their shit and starts debating who's favorite singer is better. It all seems so moot to me, since the pop singers have such little say in actually writing their songs. A hit single by Katy Perry could have easily been sung by Lady Gaga, and so on.

Is it sort of like Wrestling or the NBA, where everyone acknowledges that it is fake, plays along with it just for fun, or are these people genuinely serious?
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Seems like we're talking about 'authenticity' in music which I've always found quite a nebulous term. Is there a hard and fast, objective way of describing 'authenticity' in music or is it something that is different from person to person? Is it something that stays the same or does it perhaps change over time? I used to think part of what was really important about music was for it to be written by the performers, but I'm not so sure these days.

Throughout history you find that songs are nearly always being passed down from generation to generation, mutating and evolving as they go. It seems to me that performers who perform their own material are in the minority: From communal folk songs sung round a campfire in a time before written or recorded music, to the sea shanties passed from crew to land, to orchestras performing the great works of long dead composers, to the more recent Blues, Jazz and Rock standards (or covers or copycats) that resurface in the charts every so often; people have always sung or performed songs and music that they did not write. In many respects, once a song is out 'there', it kind of becomes everybody's. But does any of it make these performers and their performances any less valuable? I don't think it does, not without negating a sizeable chunk of music history.

Apart from my general distaste for the music, what makes AAA Pop so 'fake' and unbearable to me, isn't the fact that they don't write their own music, but the endless garish howls of each artist's PR machine. That shit is tiring.
 
Never Forever said:
True Artiste Brandy Norwood only has a single songwriting credit on her magnum opus Afrodisiac for the track 'Finally', but she helped to produce every single song on the album. So how would a 'real music fan' define her, because she may not have been involved in the conceptual stage but she basically helped mould each song into a masterpiece?
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who are you


are you a member of popgaf

leave that place

leave

please

they don't deserve you



and what's with this extended absence bit I thought kyon was struck down by people who didn't understand him, which is a shame

he really enjoyed batting things around and most reasonable people knew where he was coming from

he deserves to be here more than someone like say bootAPEtroll
 
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