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How sluggish will the Gta 6 controls be?
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poppabk
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rofif
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Listen, you are talking to a man who just ordered XXL saints row jogger pants.
Show some fucking respect
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Show us you shooting in horse back while moving without any assist.I never understood these complaints. Like never.
I just think you all suck at gaming
Hrk69
Member
Lmfao that's it?
Guilty_AI
Member
Most people don't give a crap about the game being good or not, they just want to press buttons without worry and trigger cool cutscenes on the screen. Rockstar Games have been ultimate normie bait for a while now.
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The artful mincer
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It's not just RDR2 this dates back to GTA4. Every game super linear with shit controls. GTA4 98 metacritic is a real dick slap in the face.
Yeah the linear mission design is probably a bigger sin. I have seen people moan that games like the original uncharted don't really exist anymore. Well the RDR2 campaign is like playing about 10 of them back to back.
The artful mincer
Member
I think it's more the random rampages that bring in the mainstream.
Basically Rockstar got lucky they were first dev to build a 3d city where you could go nuts in. This brought in record cash so now they can just outspend everyone.
Until GTA3 Driver was the bigger franchise but the Driver devs thought rampaging in 3D would be to horrifying or some bullshit so they didn't include it.
Had they included rampaging I think Driver would now be setting youtube view records.
Guilty_AI
Member
It used to be that in the past, but i think they attract people nowadays with production values alone. Even games like RDR2 where you can't rampage as easily still break records.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Maybe I remembering this wrong in PS2 GTA games when they give you target to kill, you have total freedom how you want to kill the target, either killing him with car chase or put bomb on his care before he escapes.
GTA games used be so fun for me but these days R* just too fucking obsessed with graphics and cinematic to even fucking care about actual game designs
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Guilty_AI
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Yeah, they used to be like that during a time. GTA 2 in particular gave you full freedom on how to play the game, you could even pick factions and gain/lose respect.
The artful mincer
Member
Yep.
When you break it down EVERYTHING impressive about Rockstar games comes back to the money they can spend.
They have never been able to produce innovative or even polished gameplay.
The artful mincer
Member
Yeah GTA3 to San Andreas were like that but after GTA4 it went all linear.
MGS5 is the game that really tried to double down on GTA3 original gameplay. A Shame it didn't really influence much
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Guilty_AI
Member
Modern GTA/RDR can be separated into 2 gameplay loops within the game:
A) Do main missions where you follow a script, literally.
B) Wander around the world looking for easter eggs or shooting stuff randomly when you get bored of A.
And these two aspects of the game have few to no influence on the other either. Unless you really like following what words on the screen say, or do random stuff without sense or purpose, there is no fun gameplay to be found here.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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At 30 fps? Sluggish. This is why its such bullshit that Rockstar doesn't have the decency to update RDR2 for next gen consoles.
How can a company who has made so much profit off of one game, not respect its fans/customers enough to deny them the ability to play that game with responsive controls now that better hardware exists? It's not like this game came out long ago either and considering RDR2 with its many frames of animation and naturally sluggish controls.
It's frankly disgusting.
How can a company who has made so much profit off of one game, not respect its fans/customers enough to deny them the ability to play that game with responsive controls now that better hardware exists? It's not like this game came out long ago either and considering RDR2 with its many frames of animation and naturally sluggish controls.
It's frankly disgusting.
Then how come these games still have such long legs and seem to be enjoyed by millions?
Guilty_AI
Member
Long running famous IP + infinite amounts of money
.I said here before, most people don't care about gameplay, they want to press buttons and trigger cool cutscenes.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Not totally true. Rockstar table tennis is responsive and has great controls.
Midnight Club responsive and Max Payne 3 gets the shooting right.
It's more a matter of character MOVEMENT that they suck at.
Jayjayhd34
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I'm 22 stone so it's like real life for me lol
funking giblet
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Make it move like this, realism be damned!
Rocco Schiavone
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Just to show you when the game will be 30fps.
Kings Field
Member
Some of the worst controls in the business
ReBurn
Gold Member
Sometimes I don't want to try
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
What about online??
Guilty_AI
Member
Teens who want to ostentate online and don't have skill to play a proper game. I played GTA Online some years back and it was a miserable experience.
Guilty_AI
Member
And there are people who like deep fried butter. That doesn't make it good food.
Barakov
Gold Member
I'm fully expecting to press three buttons at the same time to pick up a garbage can.I played a lot of Gta 5 but I always noticed the sluggish controls. I was hoping that it would be better with Red Dead Redemption 2. Well, the controls became even more sluggish in rdr2. Now I'm wondering what the controls will be like in Gta 6. A mix of Gta 5 and rdr2 or will it be even worse?
Gta 5 character controls
Rdr 2 character controls
simpatico
Member
Horses for courses and all. I wouldn't want all games to control like RDR2, but I thought it suited the overall tone and pace of the game. I certainly wouldn't want to move around like Max Payne 2 in RDR. I thought the weight was well suited. Didn't strike me as something accidental that they couldn't overcome. It was deliberate.
Lucifers Beard
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It feels like the character is wading through treacle at all times. It's painfully bad, especially when paired with 30fps.
PC it's bearable due to the higher frame rate.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Now that's fair. That being said, I played a lot of RDR2 recently on my Steam Deck and even then at 40fps I don't think the controls are the worst thing on earth like many people.
I just fail to see a proper alternative that can preserve the realistic movement animations. Rockstar's solution isn't the best, but it helps a lot when it comes to immersion, and you can still get around doing it. Most of the time spent in these games are in a car/on horseback.
nowhat
Member
Motion matching. Say whatever you will of TLoU part 2, but the fact that you can crouch and pick things up behind you with one arm, while it is all smooth and natural is nothing short of magic. If GTA 6 doesn't do this (I'm not saying it won't), it will have failed.
Lucifers Beard
Member
40fps will definitely be an improvement because the delay between input and movement will be less. I didn't care for RDR2 on Xbox mostly because of the sluggish controls, but when I replayed it on PC at 60fps it was a vastly better experience, even on a controller.
makaveli60
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I hope it will be sluggish as fuck so we get the best, most realistic animations ever
BaneIsPain
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Press/Hold X to run. ahh classic
CuteFaceJay
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If it ends up feeling like QWOP people will rage
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Putonahappyface
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Slightly erratic.
Audiophile
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Need Motion Matching.