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Hugh Jackman: LOGAN not set in the main X-Men Universe.
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In all fairness, this was basically The Wolverine.
It would have been a fine film too without that stupid fucking Transformer in the third act.
George Oscar Bluth II
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And Viper. She was absolutely awful.
And the unnecessary fuckery of the Silver Samurai
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It's not happening at all, old man. That's the whole point of the post you're quoting.
Yes, yes.
Viper: (Pulls sultry pose) I am a brilliant scientist who also dresses like a stripper.
Logan: I...right, okay.
Viper: (Pulls another sultry pose) I want to kill you, Wolverine.
Logan: ...why?
Viper: (Pulls yet another sultry pose)
You know i lost my ability to comprehend because of chromoinum overdose in the 90s.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
That still breaks my heart. The Wolverine was doing so well and then it gave into fuckery at the very end.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Wasn't that the point of ant man before the director quit?
ElBoxyBrown
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Viper: (Pulls sultry pose) I am a brilliant scientist who also dresses like a stripper.
Logan: I...right, okay.
Viper: (Pulls another sultry pose) I want to kill you, Wolverine.
Logan: ...why?
Viper: (Pulls yet another sultry pose)
She did die a laughable death. lol
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Damn, that's my bad.
So the timeline is this, right?
X-Men Origins: Wolverine > X1 > X2 > X3 > Wolverine
X-Men: First Class is both a prequel to the original universe, and a prequel to Days of Future Past.
The end of Wolverine is the beginning of the bad future which is shown in X-Men Days of Future Past, and the end of that film is the split in the universe and the start of the new canon.
So the new canon is X-Men: First class > Days of Future Past > Age of Apocalyse> (empty space + time jump)> Dead Pool > (empty space + time jump) > Logan
Fuck my brain hurts but this is right. Legion should take place between the time jumps.
X-Men Origins: Wolverine > X1 > X2 > X3 > Wolverine
X-Men: First Class is both a prequel to the original universe, and a prequel to Days of Future Past.
The end of Wolverine is the beginning of the bad future which is shown in X-Men Days of Future Past, and the end of that film is the split in the universe and the start of the new canon.
So the new canon is X-Men: First class > Days of Future Past > Age of Apocalyse> (empty space + time jump)> Dead Pool > (empty space + time jump) > Logan
Fuck my brain hurts but this is right. Legion should take place between the time jumps.
Logan seemingly isn't part of any particular timeline, which is sort of the point of this thread.
And that's why First Class remains the best X-Men movie by a wide margin
He's said prior that it's far enough in the future that they have a ton of wiggle room. This timeline gives it that space the breathe. Both reports are conflicting yet Old Man Logan takes place in its own universe in the comic.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Wolverine Origins is completely non-canon
ryutaro's mama
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Is Legion connected to the Fox Cinematic Universe, ala Agents Of Shield?
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Good. Fuck continuity, it's nothing but a handicap in most cases. Every movie should be able to stand on its own with a few exceptions like Lord of the Rings that are planned from the start.
The best superhero stories (DKR, All Star Superman, New Frontier) almost always take place in their own universes anyway.
The best superhero stories (DKR, All Star Superman, New Frontier) almost always take place in their own universes anyway.
But you do see how the timeline split allows both Deadpool and Ryan's shit Deadpool (which he references in Deadpool) to co-exist, right?
No clue.
NaDannMaGoGo
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Dunno what people see in that rubbish. X-men 2 stomps it into the ground.
Jim Lee owes me money
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Emma Frost is still contradictory.
midichlorians
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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The X-men comics were great largely because of their tight continuity and went down the tubes thanks to alternate timeline fuckery
X-men 2 is alright. That's it, the first 30 minutes is good then I don't care about the rest of that movie. In 17 years there has been one good X-men movie.
ryutaro's mama
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First Class was mediocre outside the Magneto "Frankenstein's Monster" scene.
Killing Darwin in the way they did never sat well with me. Took me out of the film.
The attack on the POTUS scene was pretty great and the mansion assault (where Wolverine finally kills) were pretty great.
They just put out as statement this week saying that Legion will NOT be apart of any of the movie universes, but that their other new show will be (kinda).
I actually think that Fox have TV rights to the Xmen but don't have the rights to directly tie them to the movies. So legion can be an Xmen show, but even though he's professor x's son, he can't be MaCavoy or Stewart's professor x's son.
Obviously they can suggest and allude to connections, but they can't do direct connections or even cameos.
Can't remember where I read this, I could be slightly off the mark.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Comic-books and movies are very different mediums. If X-Men was a tv show, I would want it to adhere to a continuity from episode to episode obviously. But we get an X-Men movie every couple of years from different directors, so I prefer to treat them as stand alone graphic novels basically. Unless they are very specifically written to be episodic like Star Wars or LotR.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Secretly in the MCU. Thanos end credit scene.
bengraven
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Apparently Prof X is going to be in the show somewhere and is likely played by Stewart. Rumor says.
Viper: (Pulls sultry pose) I am a brilliant scientist who also dresses like a stripper.
Logan: I...right, okay.
Viper: (Pulls another sultry pose) I want to kill you, Wolverine.
Logan: ...why?
Viper: (Pulls yet another sultry pose)
That seems like odd clothing for a stripper to wear. I imagine it'd be quite hard to strip that off seductively.
Im okay with this, they can just go like "it's an off shoot time line from before they get it right for the happy future in DofP".
After DofP, all bets are off, because inconsistencies can be chalked to time fuckery.
After DofP, all bets are off, because inconsistencies can be chalked to time fuckery.
That's the beauty of Deadpool: he doesn't care about timelines.
Think about this, in his movie deadpool had an action figure of his alternate timeline self that is an IRL movie tie in toy.
Bottom line: don't try to rationalize deadpool.
He's like Groundskeeper Willie in that Simpsons Halloween Special.
No, but there is another tv show planned or in the works that ties in to the movies or at least it's set in the same universe unlike Legion.
That was just a rumor and honestly I don't see him fitting in to this movie tonewise. The comicbook part was already a bit jarring.
LumpOfCole
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It's all thanks to Thanos's pesky Infinity Gauntlet and that Reality Gem.
Masterspeed
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People are getting annoyed by this? Marvel have been time, universe... Quantum leaping and everything all around with their comics.
Marvel is (or was, not sure how things have shaken out lately) based on a multiverse. Different comics take place on different Earths with the main comics Earth being Earth-616. It's how there can be different comics runs with the same hero on different teams or having different solo adventures at the same time. Old Man Logan, the comic the movie is based on, takes place on Earth-807128.
The cinematic Marvel universe(s) might be different from 616, but they're also different from the universe that Logan takes place in.
Hope that helps...it's pretty confusing but just accept it's not the same Earth as previous movies and you'll get along fine.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
I dunno why they didn't just make Mariko's dad Silver Samurai and leave old man Yashida dead.
Yukio: (Punches Viper)
Viper: (Pulls sultry pose) I am a brilliant scientist who also dresses like a stripper.
Logan: I...right, okay.
Viper: (Pulls another sultry pose) I want to kill you, Wolverine.
Logan: ...why?
Viper: (Pulls yet another sultry pose)
Viper: (SULTRY. POSE.)
Yeah...
DrunkShogun
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Right choice because of the mess x men movies have become. Would prefer this in general, would comic characters to tell better stories without being forced to relate to previous movies. I want my spiderman kraven movie.
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