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[DoubleTake]

I'll be honest, interested in RE. But Shinobis shill astroturfing was being an admin is a joke, also Kagari is a terrible, bias mod. 😔

How did Kagari hurt you? And Shinobi's excitement and presentation of a game did not warrant the reaction the community gave him, enough to drive him away. I'm sure he's learned from that experience and will be more prudent in how he presents info.

The new place is a fresh start for everyone. Admins, mods, and members alike.

 

[cramoss]

It's on times like these when you see how some people truly are behind the screen. It's been an eye opener

 

[Grinchy]

I can't wait for the new hugbox to open so all you loons can just leave already.

 

[KZXcellent]

How did Kagari hurt you? And Shinobi's excitement and presentation of a game did not warrant the reaction the community gave him, enough to drive him away. I'm sure he's learned from that experience and will be more prudent in how he presents info.

The new place is a fresh start for everyone. Admins, mods, and members alike.

People's behavior with the Shinobi stuff was disgusting.

 

[Uno Venova]

There are very few mods that are actually corrupt in the way they moderate (Dragona, Beseda), just a lot of salty posters that get mad when they're banned and never see error in their ways.

Mods were never the problem.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

She a mod there?

That's a pass for me then

Her and Emily Rogers having power over there are my biggest concerns to be completely honest, but I'm still hoping for the best.

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

You know, it's kind of funny. Many of us left endearing messages to our fellow forum members in a goodbye message, and wouldn't you know it that those nice ones got deleted rather than just locked. Sounds like only the inappropriate ones are hanging around. Probably making us look bad.

R E S E T E R A

Time to ban me.


See you on the otherside, Ray

Man, I just finish Transistor a month or so ago too.

Anyway, we'll have to see if reset era will become a worthy NeoGAF replacement.

 

[BibiMaghoo]

? I don't think you actually read that thread at all then, since that person was complaining on how GAF isn't inclusive anymore. Which it isn't. We just had a thread with a dude claiming gays could be converted, and that they can do it with "the help of the lord". People have seen the writing in the wall. Black Culture GAF, TransGAF,LGBTGaf,GirlGAF,AsianGAF already all bailed. Check the community forums.

What do you call people that use a persons sexuality, race and gender in a derogatory way? If you call out a lack of diversity by using these things as a metric, then you are a fucking massive hypocrite (not you personally, anyone). Inclusivity is not measured by any of those things, it is measured in interactions those people have. It's like saying segregated seating was inclusive because everyone was on the fucking bus. Black, Trans, LGBTQA GAF, all of them are welcome by my book, and my interactions with them would be nothing less than inclusive. People have really lost site of this in my view. You can't be inclusive if everyone has their own little groups. That is the definition of segregation.

 

[LEDsForEyes]

Her and Emily Rogers having power over there are my biggest concerns to be completely honest, but I'm still hoping for the best.

You were ok with Kagari being a mod here, but not on the other forum?

 

[Lulubop]

How did Kagari hurt you? And Shinobi's excitement and presentation of a game did not warrant the reaction the community gave him, enough to drive him away. I'm sure he's learned from that experience and will be more prudent in how he presents info.

The new place is a fresh start for everyone. Admins, mods, and members alike.

Come son, she's super bias with people in the communities she post in. I don't give a fuck about how excited he is, he's still was shilling. There's a lot of good in the team their tho of course, I'm just saying what I feel.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

You were ok with Kagari being a mod here, but not on the other forum?

I wasn't.

 

[Justinh]

And Shinobi's excitement and presentation of a game did not warrant the reaction the community gave him, enough to drive him away. I'm sure he's learned from that experience and will be more prudent in how he presents info.

Whoa, I didn't know shinobi was driven away. I always thought he just moved on. FFS. That was our loss then.

 

[neerg]

The new place is a fresh start for everyone. Admins, mods, and members alike.

As long as you are part of the clique and are allowed in, amiright?

 

[DoubleTake]

I can't wait for the new hugbox to open so all you loons can just leave already.

This is the kind of "critical thinking" that's gonna be left on Gaf.

People's behavior with the Shinobi stuff was disgusting.

Yeah it was. I think a lot of us felt bad after he dipped too. Myself included. I don't think anyone really meant to dogpile him that hard at least not most. So many are excited to have him back. Sucks losing a quality contributor like that.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Her and Emily Rogers having power over there are my biggest concerns to be completely honest, but I'm still hoping for the best.

I follow Emily Rogers on twitter for the Nintendo gossip

Don't trust Kagari, found her to have a poor attitude towards the Xbox community on here.

 

[Sanctuary]

And Shinobi's excitement and presentation of a game did not warrant the reaction the community gave him, enough to drive him away. I'm sure he's learned from that experience and will be more prudent in how he presents info.

He might not have deserved whatever backlash transpired (I never read it), but he also came off as much more than just a huge fan of Bioware games going off of his previous history with every new release.

I follow Emily Rogers on twitter for thecNintendo gossip

Don't trust Kagari, found her to have a poor attitude towards the Xbox community on here.

It just keeps getting better though. Morrigan Stark of all people is also a mod.

No thanks.

 

[Vlade]

Spamming porn GIFs seems like an odd way to respond to a sexual assault allegation.

Many are leaving as a stunt, and maybe because they have an opinion of evilore, but not because the latest events actually offend them. They want to damage neogaf and claim they are burning it down. They do so in a way you can't argue because it makes no sense. They claim moral superiority in the same post they use words like cunt. They claim maturity in the same post that they wish you well on your circle jerk. They are nothing and have nothing to say. They want their new business apart from this one. Their tactics are deplorable and i don't plan to offer them any support. I hope after this that anyone who associates with the new forum is also associated with the behavior here that seeks to brain drain this place.

 

[Uno Venova]

As long as you are part of the clique and are allowed in, amiright?

You want in? I don't see why you wouldn't be allowed.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

I follow Emily Rogers on twitter for the Nintendo gossip

Don't trust Kagari, found her to have a poor attitude towards the Xbox community on here.

That's something I've heard from a few people.

 

[bevishead]

I have been a long time lurker ( 6 years ) and only recently became a junior. This place has been my home for a while. Its been shocking how fast people turned on the site. I've read from outside forums that neogaf is full of hive minded social justice warriors who are all about our way or the highway, but didnt really see that as true until this past weekend.

 

[Meifu]

Just in case, I accessed this thread on my phone.

Lol me too. Almost got a nice look at that fisting on my big monitor at work yikes

 

[Bustanen]

As long as you are part of the clique and are allowed in, amiright?

Yeah, apparently people previously banned here have no business there. Can't have wrong think in an echo chamber.

 

[pastrami]

I am currently evaluating my options and will likely do the thread somewhere, but it depends on how the individual forums handle moderation, coverage, structure etcetc. I simply dont know yet, but as I am right in the middle of the migration waves, its easy to see how each side is riling up each other and I am trying to reach out to the ones I have contact with to do what I can to keep it civil.

Hope you find a good place. One of the first things I did when this went down was try to look you and MoreBadass up, but neither of you have updated your websites in years. Thanks for all the great indie threads.

 

[jaxpunk]

Considering most people coming over come over from the Gaming Community/Off-Topic Community (you can check that now, just about every big community has bailed) and most people on them haven't even account suicided, just moved on, much less posting porn or death threats, and considering how much of the porn and other shit was posted by clear alt accounts by GGers... I admonish any people that did that, but if you believe they constitute a significant portion of the people coming over to the new forum you are naive.

AH boy, GG boogeyman. Surely non of the fine upstanding reeeeeeeseters would ever post such things. You're hilarious. Go ahead and drop a alt-right and nazi connection in your reply to complete the batshit trifecta. It's what I've got my money on.

 

[Uno Venova]

Yeah, apparently people previously banned here have no business there. Can't have wrong think in an echo chamber.

Where did you hear this?

 

[michaelius]

There are very few mods that are actually corrupt in the way they moderate (Dragona, Beseda), just a lot of salty posters that get mad when they're banned and never see error in their ways.

Mods were never the problem.

Well I remember one of admins being removed for banning people for their political stances in 2015 or 2016. Before he was removed the only way to stay not banned here was going full 1984 and making sure you don't commit thought crime.

After he left it got better.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

Evil doesn't come here, he's obviously you busy. This place got bad long ago and that's cause of who was mod. Which you could blame all on him, sure.

But how does that make the new place better? It's a selection of evil picks

 

[MUnited83]

AH boy, GG boogeyman. Surely non of the fine upstanding reeeeeeeseters would ever post such things. You're hilarious. Go ahead and drop a alt-right and nazi connection in your reply to complete the batshit trifecta. It's what I've got my money on.

Nowhere in my post I said none of them would post such things, but nice of you to make up things that i literally didn't say. Quality discussion for sure.

What do you call people that use a persons sexuality, race and gender in a derogatory way? If you call out a lack of diversity by using these things as a metric, then you are a fucking massive hypocrite (not you personally, anyone). Inclusivity is not measured by any of those things, it is measured in interactions those people have. It's like saying segregated seating was inclusive because everyone was on the fucking bus. Black, Trans, LGBTQA GAF, all of them are welcome by my book, and my interactions with them would be nothing less than inclusive. People have really lost site of this in my view. You can't be inclusive if everyone has their own little groups. That is the definition of segregation.

But he literally didn't use it on a derogatory way. Have you not actually read the post at all? He complained that this site clearly doesn't care about anyone else, and that much is very true.
The fact that you are complaining about communities existing is completely ridiculous as well. Yeah how dare people have threads where they can discuss with their own, what a mess am i rite? Shit, I guess even Gaming Community can't exist, why are we segregating Yakuza players from the rest? You do realize that those communities are going to the other forum and will interact with the rest of the board, they won't exclusively to one group each, right?

 

[DoubleTake]

What do you call people that use a persons sexuality, race and gender in a derogatory way? If you call out a lack of diversity by using these things as a metric, then you are a fucking massive hypocrite (not you personally, anyone). Inclusivity is not measured by any of those things, it is measured in interactions those people have. It's like saying segregated seating was inclusive because everyone was on the fucking bus. Black, Trans, LGBTQA GAF, all of them are welcome by my book, and my interactions with them would be nothing less than inclusive. People have really lost site of this in my view. You can't be inclusive if everyone has their own little groups. That is the definition of segregation.

Communities having their own place to speak to one another does not limit their ability to interact with others. I'm not sure what it is you're trying to say here? Do you think that those communities shut themselves off from others on this site or something? Because I can assure your that's patently false. And Gaf is/was a gated community as well....

Come son, she's super bias with people in the communities she post in. I don't give a fuck about how excited he is, he's still was shilling. There's a lot of good in the team their tho of course, I'm just saying what I feel.

I never experienced it but hopefully it's better over there. People need to remember that they want transparency in moderation to be better over there.

As long as you are part of the clique and are allowed in, amiright?

Yeah, apparently people previously banned here have no business there. Can't have wrong think in an echo chamber.

Everyone will be able to register once the opening stages are finished

 

[Anung]

Evil doesn't come here, he's obviously you busy. This place got bad long ago and that's cause of who was mod. Which you could blame all on him, sure.

But how does that make the new place better? It's a selection of evil picks

If you'd actually read up on the story you'd know that a lot of Mods felt uncomfortable about the things he was asking them to do and the way he ran/didn't run things. Plus most of the people who made this place what it was have moved on. This purge hasn't magically removed the "evil pricks" and to believe so is stupid.

 

[LAA]

Well yeah you can only apologise for yourself really.

What people don't realise is... this isn't selling ******** to me, knowing people like that will be there, and as you say, none of these posts are even hurting evilore, doubt he's losing sleep over this anyway, Just hurting the community they supposedly care about.

I think for the time being at least, I intend to stay at Gaf, I see it as something bigger than 1 man, even if it is the owner and I'll probably join ******** too. If I feel different about Gaf over time, simply won't come anymore.

 

[Uno Venova]

Well I remember one of admins being removed for banning people for their political stances in 2015 or 2016. Before he was removed the only way to stay not banned here was going full 1984 and making sure you don't commit thought crime.

After he left it got better.

I don't really remember this, and I posted in OT during those years. But still, 3 mods out of like 60(?) that's a good track record.

 

[jmizzal]

The one behaving inappropriately has been this forum's owner. In addition to his repeated issues of harassment, his pathetic statement of non-apology shows his true color, that of shit.

Now going through PMs is the final straw.

Anyone making excuses for him and/or deflecting is complicit and equally pathetic.

The adults have left the room.

Enjoy your sad circle jerk.

Anybody leaving NSFW pics just to get banned is a hypocrite, what if i'm offended by that or somebody at my job or home sees it and is offended?

Now you just sexually harassed us, congratulations your just like the site owner in which your leaving the site due to their past.

 

[Hoo-doo]

Yeah, apparently people previously banned here have no business there. Can't have wrong think in an echo chamber.

Absolute nonsense. Where are you getting this stuff from.

 

[Bustanen]

Where did you hear this?

In a forum where banned peeps go to whine about gaf.

 

[Uno Venova]

In a forum where banned peeps go to whine about gaf.

That explains where the FUD is coming from.

 

[Sad Affleck]

Good post. I hope the people doing this sort of thing realize that they are behaving in the exact same way that 4channers and trolls do when they want to attack someone. If you want to protest against Evilore then find some way to do it directly. This tactic only bothers and hurts other users on this forum, users that you used to talk with and have fun with.

 

[Renekton]

Again acting as if those posters are the majority is disingenuous.

I recognize some of the posters who flooded our forums. If they are using the same usernames in resetera, I take it as tacit acceptance of their toxic behavior.

 

[Hektor]

I can't wait for the new hugbox to open so all you loons can just leave already.

We'll be glad to leave sensible, well mannered users like you behind, enjoy your future "SJW"-less NeoGAF

C'mon man, its way more likely someone just snitched

While we are aware that snitches are among us, we take precaution and have reason to believe that not all bans can be attributed to the fact.

However I'll put an end to this argument here as i'm aware that i will not be able to convince you without disclosing information i'm not supposed to.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

If you'd actually read up on the story you'd know that a lot of Mods felt uncomfortable about the things he was asking them to do and the way he ran/didn't run things. Plus most of the people who made this place what it was have. moved on. This purge hasn't magically removed the "evil pricks" and to believe so is stupid.

I've browsed here daily since around 2005 or so.

Mods banned and forced things as they wanted.

To believe people never do things on thier own is silly.

You can go with the but they were forced and asked. They could have said no. It's a freaking forum for games, ain't no compensation or reason you have to "mod"

The new place will be gaf, that's why it's ridiculous.

 

[adj_noun]

Everyone will be able to register once the opening stages are finished

Yep. I'm stockpiling patience on that front. Combining all the issues of starting a new community with all the issues of said community being a target before it's even truly born is gonna cause delays.

 

[Bustanen]

That explains where the FUD is coming from.

Could be just specific users who upset the mods there.

 

[DoubleTake]

Yep. I'm stockpiling patience on that front. Combining all the issues of starting a new community with all the issues of said community being a target before it's even truly born is gonna cause delays.

Yup. Glad you're making the move. Always liked your tongue in cheek posts.

 

[Uno Venova]

I recognize some of the posters who flooded our forums. If they are using the same usernames in ********, I take it as tacit acceptance of their toxic behavior.

Which posters? I'll look in the discord right now for their names.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

He might not have deserved whatever backlash transpired (I never read it), but he also came off as much more than just a huge fan of Bioware games going off of his previous history with every new release.



It just keeps getting better though. Morrigan Stark of all people is also a mod.

No thanks.

Never noticed Morrigan Stark, who is that?

 

[unknownhero]

man, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens to both forums in the next few months. very interesting...

 

[Anung]

I've browsed here daily since around 2005 or so.

Mods banned and forced things as they wanted.

To believe people never do things on thier own is silly.

You can go with the but they were forced and asked. They could have said no. It's a freaking forum for games, ain't no compensation or reason you have to "mod"

The new place will be gaf, that's why it's ridiculous.

Moderation has had issues I won't deny that but to attribute all the failings solely on them is some bullshit especially when policy has been so fluid.

There is a lot of misinformation about what ******** is and who is running it. It isn't solely old mods running it.

Edit: Discord

 

[TDLink]

Censoring d I s c o r d and r e s e t e r a is petty as hell.

If people want to leave, let them leave. Censoring the terms isn't going to stop anything. And d I s c o r d especially is an app that is widely used for games.

Re: the people thinking this was limited to some clique. Anyone who wanted to go to the new place or get in one of these d I s c o r d s was welcome to as long as they has a gaf account. Since it's not up yet, many of the community d I s c o r d s are still accepting people too.

 

[MUnited83]

I can't wait for the new hugbox to open so all you loons can just leave already.

Calling Toma, one of the best posters in the entirety of Gaming Discussion, with amazing threads about Indie Games every month with updated news and announcements, a loon? Jesus Christ what the hell GAF

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

For anyone interested, RetroGAF.com just went live.