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I just realized... future generations won't know CRT anymore

I only really started to appreciate my old CRT when I learned about ghosting and motion blur on modern screens.
 
I know she's been mentioned mentioned already, but yeah I miss my Sony 34" Widescreen XBR Crt.

It had a built in Subwoofer.

Shit was heavy as fuuuuuuck. When it finally died, I had to get some recycling company to come up 3 floors to get it.

One of the last games I played on it was Warhawk on PS3.

if yall know that game yall know the sound is Amazing! so to play it on that TV with that loud ass subwoofer.... wow was I spoiled.

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I moved a few years ago, and man am I glad I don't have CRTs anymore. But I too really miss that cool sound and distortion when you press the degauss button. I wonder if anyone made an Android app for that. I'm going to go look.
 
I still use my Sony 34XBR960 for all my gaming needs today as I run the Xbox One, PS4, Wii U, and PC through it. Games look simply phenomenal on it and I run them at 720P which helps me get more life out of my video cards on PC.

I have yet to see anything match it picture quality wise besides maybe the Pioneer Kuro plasma.
 
Until Melee HD is made, the most prominent competitive Smash game will keep CRT TVs alive. #CRTVault
and just so I don't have to deal with people thinking I'm stoking any flames, I have no problem with Smash 4 but it's pretty clear at the moment that Melee enjoys more competitive visibility at prominent events

and people are still managing to get hold of unused ones for tournaments somehow or another

I don't have any special attachment to CRT TVs though
 
So many Sony Trinitron owners on this thread, reading it all with a smile. I'm another Trinitron owner and what amazing displays they were. Pretty much perfect in every sense of the word except weight, but yeah.. Good ol' 8, 16 and 32 bit days, you'd never be forgotten.
 
There probably a Sony FW900 lying around in a goodwill. Would love to own one despite the weight and being an electrical hazard...

xir said:
where's the thread about buying old television channels SD pro equipment for great CRT gaming?

thinking of getting an 8" sony trinitron....
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If you mean this?
 
Soltype said:
It sounds like they are still very good for visuals, is it possible make the form factor smaller.It's just weird that the industry swept them away when the replacement wasn't as good.
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Price, and the size difference was a big marketing tool. As they popped up more, lots of casual buyers were interested in thinner, lighter screens over ones that performed better.

Manufacturing costs were WAY lower for lcds, and you didn't have to deal with dumb shit like re-configuring high-res displays for use in the northern vs southern hemispheres.

It's rarely the technically best format that survives anything. That said, my 21" Mitsubishi weighed 30 lbs more than my 65" lcd tv does.

-edit- for those of you looking in to getting RGB monitors for gaming specifically, it wouldn't hurt to look at open frame RGB displays like the kind used in arcade cabinets or industrial displays. With a little TLC you can often get an cheap older display up and running very well.
 
Well let's look forward... OLED is the future, right? At least it claimed itself to be, even before CRT died and LCD became mainstream... lol
 
CRT is so stupid fast that an Atari 2600 could execute logic determining what to display and it would be on screen in a millisecond. In, like, hundredths of a frame. Because the system didn't render in frames. It rendered in scanlines. A system with 128 bytes of RAM, making things happen instantaneously in front of your eyes.

Honestly, I'd like to see an artisanal CRT market emerge.
 
Trace said:
Hell I'm 22 and I haven't used a CRT in years. The weight outweights the other benefits for me.

Kappa
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You should go and try one again some time. It's a pretty eye opening experience if it's been a while.

Every time I sit down in front of a CRT to play a game I get this sense of "wow". The black reproduction, the lack of trailing or blur, and the lack of a fixed resolution. You'd be stunned at how crisp and clean 1024x768 can still look on a CRT. It has a certain softness and smoothness to it that you just don't see on a fixed pixel display.

I just love 'em.
 
Depends. If they work in video restoration, they'll know only CRT. There's a lot of contemporary art from the 70s/80s and TV shows on video.
 
dark10x said:
You should go and try one again some time. It's a pretty eye opening experience if it's been a while.

Every time I sit down in front of a CRT to play a game I get this sense of "wow". The black reproduction, the lack of trailing or blur, and the lack of a fixed resolution. You'd be stunned at how crisp and clean 1024x768 can still look on a CRT. It has a certain softness and smoothness to it that you just don't see on a fixed pixel display.

I just love 'em.
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I have a 144hz monitor and it wowed me more than any of the CRTs I ever played on TBH. It has effectively no blur the way it's set up, and the resolution is much higher than any CRT I ever used. I mean sure if I had some $3000 monster CRT around somewhere I'd try it, but I have no reason to go back to 4:3 anymore.
 
Trace said:
I have a 144hz monitor and it wowed me more than any of the CRTs I ever played on TBH. It has effectively no blur the way it's set up, and the resolution is much higher than any CRT I ever used. I mean sure if I had some $3000 monster CRT around somewhere I'd try it, but I have no reason to go back to 4:3 anymore.
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I just can't agree with you on that.

Refresh rate alone simply isn't enough.

LCDs monitors have awful black levels - even the best of the best still pale next to a CRT and being able to run at any resolution is fantastic.

A CRT can look amazing at 60hz or 70hz - a refresh rate more attainable than 144hz.

I have never been truly impressed with an LCD.
 
And let's not forget viewing angles. An LCD turns to shit if you move your head around, colors change, ... CRT looked the same from every angle. And they didn't have dead pixels.
 
I still have a sony trinitron g420 sitting in my room. I would like to use it but i don't have anything to use it with.
 
Still have my first TV, which was a CRT, in the attic. It is going to rot there for all eternity as far as I am concerned.
 
Rich! said:
One thing I absolutely do not miss from the CRT era though is the migraines. I suffer from cluster headaches, and one particularly bad spell can wipe out two days for me (thank fuck my work understands)

Back in the mid to late 90s I used to spend hours upon hours on my PC, messing with custom tech in DOS, hacking NES games through homebrew and NESticle, etc. And it hurt like hell. Oh god, that shit burnt through my eyeballs
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Yeah, I still remember the pounding, piercing, eyeball-ripping headache I got after I spent an entire day playing Mario Sunshine in my first apartment on the world shittiest CRT TV.

I'm sure the awful composite cable and the overly bright colors in Sunshine, plus not really being used to 3D games at that time didn't help. I probably had the screen set way too bright as well.

These days it's LCD + low brightness + some amount of blue light filtering (flux or in the built in options) for maximum eye comfort.
 
impact said:
There's not gonna be many 1ms panels with input lag, though I know response time and input lag are different things.
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The two aren't related. OLED panels have sub-1ms response, but you still get OLED TVs with input-Lag equivalent to LCD based ones.

Anyway - CRT still has better motion-resolution to fixed-pixel panels, even low-persistence OLEDs in 1st gen VR still have a perceptible amount of ghosting left.
 
So in the OP, all the negatives of CRT's are mentioned and none of the positives? It's quite strange that was the case especially how the title was phrased.

In any case, CRT's were indeed heavy and perhaps slight emissions of radiation could be a negative as well, but let's not forget how much better they were for the technology it self.

1.) No native resolution. (try playing any game on non-native rez on your LCD or at least compare). Crt's are much better at offering a crisp picture on pretty much any rez.

2.) Black levels and reproduction of color are very good, A good LED or plasma will get close or match them in certain instances but it's rare that we get such results in modern units.

3.) Input Lag: our biggest sacrifice with the advancement of the newer technologies in lcd and plasma, much more input lag than you would have on a CRT. Now imagine how worse it gets when you need specific modes that caters to lower IL like the game modes you typically get on LCD's, which are still not ideal.


Packing a thin LCD on a wall is certainly a nice thing, they are making quite a bit of progress on the IQ and refresh rate side, but at it's core some of the advantages of what CRT's offered were lost.

At the end of the day, I think some of the advantages of the newer technologies super cedes the older tech. Perhaps eventually, a new technology will come and outpace the CRT's on all levels, predominantly where they were strong.
 
as far as television speakers go, they were probably the best, with all that depth available. I still have a CRT in my bedroom. A 32" 4:3 Bang & Olufsen. What a beauty.
 
clem84 said:
What I miss are light gun games. Without CRTs it's more complicated to pull off. The ones who released in the last 10 years were all based on some kind of motion control technology, which is usually very laggy. Light gun games on old CRTs played perfectly.

Maybe they'll come up with something that performs better at some point.
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This! We need a new point blank!!
 
I grew up with a CRT but I don't really feel any nostalgia or fondness for them. I'm ok with them being phased out. I got my first HDTV at 22 and I haven't looked back at all. Hell I can't wait for OLED to become the standard so we can phase out LCD. I'm alright with progress. I got rid of all my VHS's and cassettes years ago and I'm all digital as far as gaming now, so I guess you could say that I leave the past where it is and only rarely revisit it. Love my childhood, but I revel in the future; my daughter and wife do as well.
 
kamineko said:
They won't be able to smoke cigarettes in hospital rooms, either.
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Or the plane, I remember the good ol' days when smoking at the back of plane with my father. They don't make em' like they used to. And you know, I don't ever recall having a fire incident in a aeroplane because of smokers.

I still like the relic of ashtrays in almost all forms of mass public transport. National trains, many planes, coaches the world over.
 
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