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I popped in NFL 2K5 just now
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Do the roster updates include updated playbooks, or would you have to do that yourself? Is it even possible to switch around the playbooks? I know you couldn't make plays or anything, but it seems like I remember there being some option to choose from a selection of pre-made playbooks.
Balb said:
I owned (and still do) both versions and I think the only differences were better texturing on the uniforms and field and full-motion highlights at half-time and for post-game (Xbox version, obviously).
But I agree with the OP. 2K5 was great and I still play 2K8 with friends nearly every weekend. It just feels like I'm more in control compared to the sluggishness of Madden (I bought 09 for PS3 and 360 and it disturbs me that I paid so much for games I rarely play).
Classic_Gs
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Yes the textures and lighting were better for the Xbox version of 2k5, but a PS2 with the HDD could also play the video highlights.Kolgar said:
TheyCallMeMoney
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I never really liked the 2k series as far as gameplay. Maybe I was used to Madden, but the overall presentation was much better in 2k5. The game that stands out to me the most was NFL Gameday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsXdW_eo9Og&feature=related
If that shit doesn't get you jacked up to play football then you shouldn't be playing football games!
BTW NFL is dumb as shit. They could have 5 NFL games and I would prob buy the top 3 maybe 4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsXdW_eo9Og&feature=related
If that shit doesn't get you jacked up to play football then you shouldn't be playing football games!
BTW NFL is dumb as shit. They could have 5 NFL games and I would prob buy the top 3 maybe 4.
Classic_Gs
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It doesn't....2013 I believe, but most likely it will be renewed anywayCloudy said:
TheyCallMeMoney said:
For the first couple of years, Gameday was fucking phenomenal. And then, sadly, it turned to crap.
Now, if you really want to go back in the day, I'll argue til the day I die that the first couple of years of NFL Quarterback Club on the SNES was just as good as Madden was at the time, but that's probably a discussion for another day/thread/whatev.
Bumblebeetuna
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While I agree next gen Maddens have been average at best for the most part, I don't get why so many people loved 2K5. The game controls like ass, there is no QB Spy and the run game is broken. Not to mention the franchise was laughably bad with its progression, even worse than next gen Madden's have been. If the game had retailed for $50 I doubt it would have had half as many fans.
And 2K5's no QB spy, turn on a dime route running and floaty football is realistic passing? That coupled with the "Jam Y over and over" run game must make it the most realistic game of any kind ever made!! Thanks for opening my eyes.
Shamrock said:
And 2K5's no QB spy, turn on a dime route running and floaty football is realistic passing? That coupled with the "Jam Y over and over" run game must make it the most realistic game of any kind ever made!! Thanks for opening my eyes.
Shawnwhann
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This shit again?!? :lol
2K Football is DEAD, get over it Konex!!
2K Football is DEAD, get over it Konex!!
Classic_Gs
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I agree with you as I loved Gameday from '95 - '98. That series just got better every year for a few years, too bad it completely fell off in the PS2 era. Also, I really enjoyed QB club on the N64, I remember it was the first game to show the players breath during snow gamesFlavius said:
.Welcome to the thread, EA.
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Ha! Agreed. I remember picking up QB Club and Madden 64 (that was the year I think they had a deal worked out with the NFLPA, but not the NFL) and being generally more impressed with QB Club.
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Classic_Gs said:I agree with you as I loved Gameday from '95 - '98. That series just got better every year for a few years, too bad it completely fell off in the PS2 era. Also, I really enjoyed QB club on the N64, I remember it was the first game to show the players breath during snow games
Ha! Agreed. I remember picking up QB Club and Madden 64 (that was the year I think they had a deal worked out with the NFLPA, but not the NFL) and being generally more impressed with QB Club.
Classic_Gs
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While I did not play the Xbox version, I did play the 360 version and that was complete crap, missing way too many features.AZ Greg said:Ugh, 2K5 was such crap.
Madden 2006 (Xbox) still remains the best football game ever!
Damn shame it isn't BC with the 360.
Mr.Potato Head
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Believe it or not.. madden is much improved this year...im a huge 2k fan myself but the gamestop demo shows a much different madden this year.Cloudy said:
Some of us at Operation Sports Forums played a big roll in this as Ian Cummings interacts with us there and has used alot of our idea's and suggestions and put them to use in M10 this year..cant wait for M10 to go retail!!! I never thought i'd say such a thing as i always hated madden but this is definitely better
Classic_Gs
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Interesting, what made that year stand out for you above the more recent versions?AZ Greg said:
Classic_Gs
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I agree, this years Madden so far seems to be starting off on the right foot. The slower speed definitely gives the game a more 2k feel, and I like the adjustments made to the passing game as well. I bought '09 and played it for a couple months but the passing game annoyed me to no end, and I ended up selling it. I do not notice the same issues in this year's demo which is great.Mr.Potato Head said:
Madden '10 will be the first football game I've bought since 2K5. I guess technically I picked up Madden '09, but I ended up returning it or selling it or something a few weeks after I bought it because I never played it.
Really want to get going with a new franchise mode, though. 2K5 is still a lot of fun, but I want to learn a new system. As mentioned earlier, I don't spend too much time actually playing the games themselves, I'm all about franchise management.
Really want to get going with a new franchise mode, though. 2K5 is still a lot of fun, but I want to learn a new system. As mentioned earlier, I don't spend too much time actually playing the games themselves, I'm all about franchise management.
As my first act, Crabtree will be a Raven!
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EA PR before ESPN 2K5 came out:
"They could give that game away free bundled with a sandwich and people still wouldn't want it !"
2K5 comes out and cuts Maddens market share from 10 - 1 down to 2 - 1
EA buys rights to NFL license
EA buys rights to NCAA license
EA buys rights to Arena football license
EA buys rights to CFL license
EA buys rights to ESPN license
I mean damn, they even bought ESPN 2K5's name out from under them. That's fear. That's cowardice.
The NFL doesn't even know how badly they got played on this license deal. It has definitely stagnated growth in football games. Compare all of the improvements in games from last generation to this generation. The improvements in graphic fidelity, physics, and on screen geometry in a GTA game is astounding. The same improvements can be seen in every genre and every game that has crossed over from last generation to this one.
Compare all of that to Maddens sad graphical upgrades and almost non-existent gameplay improvements. And the few gameplay improvements they have made have been because they have aped 2K5's gameplay.
And the NFL I guess will find out the hard way that Madden doesn't need to re-up on the license in 2011. It takes so long for a sports game to gain market share that EA can skip the license for 3 or 4 years and nobody will be able to catch up. You have to grow a sports franchise, both in gameplay improvements year over year, and in customer recognition. I wonder if the NFL realized that the contract they signed would last EA all the way to 2015 without any threat of competition.
"They could give that game away free bundled with a sandwich and people still wouldn't want it !"
2K5 comes out and cuts Maddens market share from 10 - 1 down to 2 - 1
EA buys rights to NFL license
EA buys rights to NCAA license
EA buys rights to Arena football license
EA buys rights to CFL license
EA buys rights to ESPN license
I mean damn, they even bought ESPN 2K5's name out from under them. That's fear. That's cowardice.
The NFL doesn't even know how badly they got played on this license deal. It has definitely stagnated growth in football games. Compare all of the improvements in games from last generation to this generation. The improvements in graphic fidelity, physics, and on screen geometry in a GTA game is astounding. The same improvements can be seen in every genre and every game that has crossed over from last generation to this one.
Compare all of that to Maddens sad graphical upgrades and almost non-existent gameplay improvements. And the few gameplay improvements they have made have been because they have aped 2K5's gameplay.
And the NFL I guess will find out the hard way that Madden doesn't need to re-up on the license in 2011. It takes so long for a sports game to gain market share that EA can skip the license for 3 or 4 years and nobody will be able to catch up. You have to grow a sports franchise, both in gameplay improvements year over year, and in customer recognition. I wonder if the NFL realized that the contract they signed would last EA all the way to 2015 without any threat of competition.
Presentation is what made it great.Phloxy said:
The lack of a true Franchise and overall gameplay just didn't click "fun" to me. I sold it and it bought Madden '05 that year. Owner Mode had me playing that for two years. In my view, Madden '05 is the best game overall I've seen put out to date.
-PXG- said:
lawl, i was the same, sometimes i try to force myself to like madden, downloaded every single demo that comes out to try to get a feel for the game, hated everyone of them
Surprisingly Madden 10 has taken great strides in making it like 2k5, with quarterback dodging etc. but still not as good as 2k5 which is pretty sad.
But i do like the direction madden is headed. Thank you peter moore
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No I'm not saying that they would skip a few years of releasing Madden. They would never pass up a chance to sell their cash cow.
What I'm saying is that due to the nature of sports titles that even if they didn't re-up on the exclusivity contract no other football game would be able to compete with them for 3 to 4 years even if that game shared the NFL license. I don't think the NFL had a full grasp of this when they signed the contract.
Halo 3 is great right? But Halo 3 being great doesn't hurt the ability for COD 4 to sell millions and become the defacto online multi-player game in 1 year. That wont happen with a sports license. It takes a few years not just to get your gameplay working in all facets, but also to get the gaming public to migrate over to your game. People will play Halo 3 and COD 4 and switch back and forth between them. Most of the sports gaming public has the 1 game they will play and they don't play any other. Very few people played 2K5 and Madden 2005 at the same time. It's just how sports games work.
What I'm saying is that due to the nature of sports titles that even if they didn't re-up on the exclusivity contract no other football game would be able to compete with them for 3 to 4 years even if that game shared the NFL license. I don't think the NFL had a full grasp of this when they signed the contract.
Halo 3 is great right? But Halo 3 being great doesn't hurt the ability for COD 4 to sell millions and become the defacto online multi-player game in 1 year. That wont happen with a sports license. It takes a few years not just to get your gameplay working in all facets, but also to get the gaming public to migrate over to your game. People will play Halo 3 and COD 4 and switch back and forth between them. Most of the sports gaming public has the 1 game they will play and they don't play any other. Very few people played 2K5 and Madden 2005 at the same time. It's just how sports games work.
Cat in the Hat
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Madden 05 is still the funnest footbal game to me.
Awesome Animals
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How has no one mentioned first-person football mode yet? I remember being the dolphins, choosing to be Ricky Williams, and just steamrolling every defender that got in my way. That was football!
DidntKnowJack
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2K5 is still the best football game ever created, imo. It's certainly the best presented football game.
Obsolete Observation
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I was playing it a few weeks ago. It still has players online. Don't think I'll be playing it much more from this point out, though. The flaws in the game remind me how awesome 2k6-2k10 could have been. Their franchise mode would probably be much better than Madden's by now, Madden's franchise mode has stagnated, I feel 2k was moving more towards a coaching experience in it's franchise and probably would have expanded on that greatly. I also wonder what their counter to superstar mode would have been, and if they would have expanded their online services. They had Online leagues and 8 player online in 2k5, I wonder if we could have seen full 11 on 11 online football by now.
Oh well, No way of knowing what could have been.
Oh well, No way of knowing what could have been.
2K5 and APF2K8 are the reasons I probably wont be getting Madden this year, I just prefer their gameplay to Madden. I do like how Madden played in the new demo though.
NFL 2K5 montage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq9qRR8CoDw
NFL 2K5 montage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq9qRR8CoDw
CrunchinJelly
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Is APF region free on 360?
Madden 10 vs NFL 2k5 Edge Pass Rushing Animations Plus other Physics issues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLC22HpeNJg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLC22HpeNJg
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So I went an bought NFL2k5 a few minutes ago. All $0.74 of it! Of course I didn't have any cash so the cute girl working at Gamestop was giving me shit for charging .74 on my debit card! Then she refused to give me a bag because she said she wanted me to feel the shame of walking through the mall with a game that came out 5 years ago!