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[NYR]

wtf is this

Qymaen jai Sheelal

It's what General Grievous looked like before turning into a vibrator.

 

[Crossing Eden]

It did suck that Mual had the high ground but Obiwan was somehow able to cut him in 2.

Which led to him creating a mini army,oppressing some planets, getting wrecked by Obi wan AGAIN, (although he did pay him back for the legs), and then getting wrecked by his own former master.

Maul:Nah master I was really planning on coming back.

Sidious:

 

[Zee-Row]

The thing about how Anakin got easily beat in Ep III with that move is that if you notice, he uses that move all the goddamn time on Mustafar

Like a Mortal Kombat player who can't think of a different combo

Back + back + low punch + Uppercut
Back + back + low punch + Uppercut
Back + back + low punch + Uppercut
Back + back + low punch + Uppercut

 

[Duane Cunningham]

Maul is his Sith name I think, so it's probably something else. But yeah, Savage is a pretty bad name. It helps it isn't pronounced the same, but still.


I always thought it was weird how Maul and Savage had this close brotherly relationship but they also had a third brother that Savage choked to death that was never brought up.

Yeah, he specifically says in Rebels that he had another name before Maul, but he can't even remember what it was anymore.

 

[Zaventem]

Is this the guy the brought back with the stupid looking spider feet? I wish non of that cartoon was canon. What a disservice to a cool looking character.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Is this the guy the brought back with the stupid looking spider feet? I wish non of that cartoon was canon. What a disservice to a cool looking action figure who unceremoniously got chopped in half.

Ftfy. Darth Maul was not a character in Episode 1, he was an action figure.

 

[TDLink]

• Maul was way more popular than Windu
• People largely felt Maul's character was wasted for how cool people thought he was
• They figured out a good storyline to utilize Maul for

Take your pick, but it makes a lot of sense to me.

Mace Windu was boring as hell other than being played by Sam Jackson. And even then he was played like the most boring Jedi that you ever have seen.

 

[Chaotic-Strike]

He was a different kind of chump.

Every Star War Villain goes out like a chump.

If only Maul just tried sneaking up behind Sidious and throwing him down a reactor shaft so much stuff could be avoided.

 

[TDLink]

I'll add, I'm glad they brought him back. As his entire story/The Mandalore arc is one of the best stories in the entire franchise.

 

[Switch Back 9]

Every Star War Villain goes out like a chump.

If only Maul just tried sneaking up behind Sidious and throwing him down a reactor shaft so much stuff could be avoided.

Sidious wanted to die so he could transfer his power/consciousness into a new body. He LET that shit happen! You'll see!!

 

[sphagnum]

Is this the guy the brought back with the stupid looking spider feet? I wish non of that cartoon was canon. What a disservice to a cool looking character.

Hey cool, you don't know what you're talking about. Maul was barely a character in TPM, just a hitman. TCW gave him character. And the spider thing was for like one episode.

 

[Veritigo_X]

Is this the guy the brought back with the stupid looking spider feet? I wish non of that cartoon was canon. What a disservice to a cool looking character.

He had spider legs for like an episode. He's got normal looking robot legs for the most part.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Every Star War Villain goes out like a chump.

If only Maul just tried sneaking up behind Sidious and throwing him down a reactor shaft so much stuff could be avoided.

To be fair, Sidious immediately tried to shut that redeemed hero shit down by redirecting the lightning towards Vader. So in the end he took Vader with him. He had Vader under his thumb for like 25 years and the dude was straight up watching him torture Luke, "hmmm, he might betray me as I force fuck this dude with lightening for one last minute" probably wasn't going through his mind. Ծ_Ծ Plagueis went out like a chump by getting too drunk and then killed in his sleep. How does an incredibly powerful sith lord get so smashed, (with wine btw), that he can't sense his apprentice about to destroy him in his sleep.

 

[karasu]

And the best grevious

Grimace was a BEAST in that show. It's a shame how he turned out in the movies.

 

[The Last Wizard]

1 black character rule. Lando, Mace and Finn.

Lando might be dead, Mace is dead and Finn is being trolled:/

 

[Monocle]

This is why I ignore that clone wars and rebels garbage.

Uhh, Clone Wars is actually fantastic, to the point of almost justifying the Prequel Trilogy and almost making Anakin a good character.

Rebels is decent.

 

[sphagnum]

Grimace was a BEAST in that show. It's a shame how he turned out in the movies.

RotS would be a masterpiece if he was the villain.

 

[Switch Back 9]

1 black character rule. Lando, Mace and Finn.

Lando might be dead, Mace is dead and Finn is being trolled:/

Yeah but Lando is going to (hopefully) get some serious shine with Donald Glover playing him.

I mean, the movie might actually suck, but I have faith in Gambino.

 

[ElyrionX]

I don't see why the Force wouldn't help any Jedi survive a big fall, let alone one as powerful as Mace.

 

[TDLink]

If anyone is interested in seeing why people love that they brought Darth Maul back, please watch the Mandalore arc from The Clone Wars. It's on Netflix and easily accessible. It is up there with the OT for Star Wars stories, imo.

Here's what you'd need to watch:

1. The Mandalore Plot s2e12
2. Voyage of Temptation s2e13
3. Duchess of Mandalore S2E14
4. Night Sisters s3e12
5. Monster S3e13
6. Witches of the Mist s3e14
7. Heroes on both Sides s3e10
8. Corruption s3e5
9. The Academy s3e6
10. A Friend in Need s4e14
11. Massacre s4e19
12. Brothers s4e21
13. Revenge s4e22
14. Revival s5e1
15. Eminence s5e14
16. Shades of Reason s5e15
17. The Lawless s5e16

 

[Veritigo_X]

RotS would be a masterpiece if he was the villain.

 

[elrechazado]

• Maul was way more popular than Windu
• People largely felt Maul's character was wasted for how cool people thought he was
• They figured out a good storyline to utilize Maul for

Take your pick, but it makes a lot of sense to me.

Mace Windu was boring as hell other than being played by Sam Jackson. And even then he was played like the most boring Jedi that you ever have seen.

So like every Jedi we ever saw in the prequels?

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

My little brother will not get over Mace Windu's ""death""
He asks me all the time if Rebels has said anything about him yet, asks about books and the comics.
He got hyped as hell about that SLJ quote a while back.

My brother got trolled hard by the prequels.
Saw episode 1 as a 4year old, Qui-Gon was his favorite character
Episode 2, Jango Fett..
Episode 3, Mace Windu and Kit Fisto.....

 

[Seductivpancakes]

I really dislike that Maul is still alive and lightsaber helicopters.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

because Samuel L. Jackson does not give a single, solitary fuck.

 

[The One and Done™]

Mace Windu just lost his hand and was electrocuted and thrown off.
.

Oh that's all?

 

[Cross-Section]

Mace is in a little envelope marked "In Case of Emergency" located somewhere in Pablo Hidalgo's desk.

 

[Einchy]

Here is the scene I was talking about.

Sidious is just such a fucking boss.

Such a great scene.

It makes so mad that his fight scene in Episode III was just done without any preparation, Ian McDiarmid didn't even know it was going to happen until he arrived on set and George told him, and you can totally tell. Awful fight scene without any weight to it.

This is why I ignore that clone wars and rebels garbage.

And yet he's at his best in Clone Wars and Rebels while he was completely wasted in the movies. He's not actual character and not just a cool toy.

 

[sphagnum]

I really dislike that Maul is still alive and lightsaber helicopters.

I think Maul almost surely was going to die during the Siege of Mandalore when TCW was still being planned, but once it got cancelled they couldn't resist playing with the open ending. At least Rebels will finally give him closure (I would think).

 

[TDLink]

So like every Jedi we ever saw in the prequels?

Sure, but that was also kind of the point they were going for. (Although that is also a stupid as hell point and they should have done something different with the Jedi)

At least Obi-Wan turns out better than that (especially with The Clone Wars).

 

[LycanXIII]

There's a prequel comic mini-series coming out about Maul before Ep 1.

 

[antonz]

The Philosophy of the Jedi and the Sith play a big factor in it all in the end.

The Sith are basically people who know hell is real and they will spend eternity there for their actions so do everything they can going as far as seeking immortality so they can avoid ever having to pay the price for the choices they made.
The Jedi on the other hand see death as just a step in their journey so while they do not seek death they do not fear it either.

Maul used his Powers to feed his life so he would not face the afterlife. Mace besides getting Sheeved as a Jedi would accept his fate

 

[RareFantasy64]

Didn't Lucas say he is cool with Samuel L. Jackson's statement that he believes Mace survived?

 

[sphagnum]

Didn't Lucas say he is cool with Samuel L. Jackson's statement that he believes Mace survived?

According to SLJ, yeah.

Jackson believing Windu is alive is one thing, but this was apparently an idea Jackson also ran by George Lucas, who was just fine with Windu still being alive. The actor explained, “George is like, ‘I’m okay with that. You can be alive.” But he also pointed out what we’re all already thinking, “George doesn’t have anything to do with it anymore.”

Maybe he'll get a spinoff movie in the 2020s. As of now, he's dead.

 

[Einchy]

I think Maul almost surely was going to die during the Siege of Mandalore when TCW was still being planned, but once it got cancelled they couldn't resist playing with the open ending. At least Rebels will finally give him closure (I would think).

Seems so since he

Spoiler

just found out about Obi-wan and he seems pretty determined to find him. It wouldn't surprise me if they get a re-match.

 

[Seductivpancakes]

I think Maul almost surely was going to die during the Siege of Mandalore when TCW was still being planned, but once it got cancelled they couldn't resist playing with the open ending. At least Rebels will finally give him closure (I would think).

I don't like that he got bisected and survived.

But he did, so at least give him a cooler death fighting a clearly superior opponent, his old master.

Seems so since he

Spoiler

just found out about Obi-wan and he seems pretty determined to find him. It wouldn't surprise me if they get a re-match.

Not canon but there's a short comic on it.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

This is why I ignore that clone wars and rebels garbage.

Clone Wars was legitimately probably the best Star Wars material.
Rebels is getting better but isn't near that level yet.

 

[Avixph]

I'm fine with this. There is good sprinkled through out even if there was a like of zany weird shit. Hell I could almost see the Yuuzhan Vong at some point far down the road.

I believe that they were planned to have an appearance in TCW.

 

[Harpoon]

I like cackling, mustache-twirling Grievous more than quiet badass Grievous. Mainly because the series has already had a million characters with the latter archetype.

 

[sphagnum]

I believe that they were planned to have an appearance in TCW.

Yes, it was going to be a one off inspired by the X Files.

 

[TDLink]

I like cackling, mustache-twirling Grievous more than quiet badass Grievous. Mainly because the series has already had a million characters with the latter archetype.

The bigger problem with Grievous is they never did anything interesting with him. I was fine with both interpretations of the character, but they never built him into a very good character in any version. Even TCW, which did right by a shit load of Prequel Era characters who got shafted in the films, pretty much squandered/gave up on trying to make Grievous good.

But that's ok since they made Anakin great, which is by far their greatest achievement, and added character to movie action figures like Darth Maul, Plo Koon, Asaaj Ventress, and others. Plus had fantastic original characters like Ahsoka, Satine, Rex, Fives, etc.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Harrison Ford was in some of the movies.

Harrison Ford was a thing at all because of Star Wars (and eventually Indy)

 

[mcrommert]

It's not as dumb as it sounds, either. If you're so inclined, you have some of the best Star Wars that exists ahead of you...

Wut

It's like the good old expanded universe doesn't even exist anymore

Clone wars is something but it isn't best anything

 

[TDLink]

Wut

It's like the good old expanded universe doesn't even exist anymore

Clone wars is something but it isn't best anything

TCW is definitely better than most of the old EU, which had a lot of interesting or even good ideas but often abysmal execution.

Zahn's trilogy and KOTOR/Tales of the Jedi are like the best stuff that came out of there.

Clone Wars really does deserve a lot more respect than it gets due to people writing it off since it's a cartoon, the first season wasn't that great, and the "movie" was awful.

 

[AlimNassor]

Weird that this is now non canon.


Clone wars legitimizes everything that was supposed to be in the prequel films.
-Instead of showing pointless shit like Anakin as a child, it focuses on his adult life and genuinely SHOWS his relationships with other characters instead of telling us about them, so none of that "Oh that time we had an adventure" bullshit, just straight up showing instead of telling
-Aligns up with Obi-wan's description of Anakin as there are many moments when they are genuinely shown as friends
-Has scenes between Anakin and Padme that aren't cringeworthy and feel like they were written by people who genuinely understand how relationships work
-Actually SHOWS what makes Anakin the chosen one and more importantly why Jedi are so revered as legends by the time the OT came out
-Explains a lot of the questions behind the prequels, like why the clones were so willing to kill the jedi
-Makes Darth Maul an actual character, as well as Ventress
-Makes the clone wars feel more like an actual war instead of a bunch of pretty CGI battles

That's just a few of the things that Clone Wars does really well and what makes it great.

You forgot: shows why Anakin would fall. Anakin was never depicted as an ideal hero. he was human and that was what made him a bad jedi.

 

[darklin0]

Wut

It's like the good old expanded universe doesn't even exist anymore

Clone wars is something but it isn't best anything

To some, the old EU never even existed. With Disney saying almost all of it not being canon anymore, no one is inclined to dive into it now.

 

[nekkid]

Because nobody wants to see this face again:

 

[munchie64]

Wut

It's like the good old expanded universe doesn't even exist anymore

Clone wars is something but it isn't best anything

I dunno, when it was part of the EU, I'd say as an overall package CW fit pretty snuggly into the top 5 - all of which are better than the prequels imo.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Weird that this is now non canon.


Clone wars legitimizes everything that was supposed to be in the prequel films.
-Instead of showing pointless shit like Anakin as a child, it focuses on his adult life and genuinely SHOWS his relationships with other characters instead of telling us about them, so none of that "Oh that time we had an adventure" bullshit, just straight up showing instead of telling
-Aligns up with Obi-wan's description of Anakin as there are many moments when they are genuinely shown as friends
-Has scenes between Anakin and Padme that aren't cringeworthy and feel like they were written by people who genuinely understand how relationships work
-Actually SHOWS what makes Anakin the chosen one and more importantly why Jedi are so revered as legends by the time the OT came out
-Explains a lot of the questions behind the prequels, like why the clones were so willing to kill the jedi
-Makes Darth Maul an actual character, as well as Ventress
-Makes the clone wars feel more like an actual war instead of a bunch of pretty CGI battles

That's just a few of the things that Clone Wars does really well and what makes it great.

One of my favorite things was just how much of assholes it made much of the Jedi Order seem like.
I thought Mace Windu came off horrendously in the series, yet intentionally so.

Doesn't excuse murdering a bunch of kids, but man it fixed a lot of stuff with Anakin.

 

[Copenap]

Only the movies are canon. To me not even everything in the prequels is canon. Therefore, Darth Maul is dead for sure.