AceBandage
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I think a DMC style DK game would be pretty awesome, myself.
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IGN: Retro Studios Working on Donkey Kong Revival
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comedy bomb
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AceBandage said:
It'd be even better with brutal finishers. Imagine tearing arms off of baddies and having blood spray all over Kong's face.
Spotless Mind
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Blah. I'd rather they work on something original.
Sammy Samusu
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It isn't.scitek said:
Everyone that's expecting something like Prime know that you have to expect it from Miyamoto, Retro did little to Metroid Prime, they were like monkeys, except for all amazing artworks, one of the best things in Prime, I'd say.
evilromero
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This has been said a million times now. There's nothing wrong with reviving franchises or developing sequels in this business. People act as if this will somehow impede Retro from making a truly creative and compelling experience.Spotless Mind said:
AceBandage
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wrowa said:
No way.
Arm spin up, trigger coconut gun barrage, fist slam into the ground.
There's some awesome combos you could do with DK's moves.
comedy bomb
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Sammy Samusu said:
Good fit for Donkey Kong then I guess.
Shotgun Kiss
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The DKC games were absolutely sublime platformers. DKC2 is still my favourite 2D platformer to this day.
Ever since Nintendo reacquired the DK license, they've done next to nothing of interest with it outside the Mario Vs. Donkey Kong games, and that's a different kettle of fish because they harken back to the pre-Rare days. Jungle Beat was good, but apart from the inclusion of barrels, bananas, and one instance of the Donkey Kong Country jungle music, it had nothing to do with the DK franchise, and could easily have starred any other character (even a brand new one), and still been exactly the same experience. It's hardly a good use of a franchise when it's completely interchangeable.
The King of Swing games are pretty much the only games that decided to pick up everything and continue to take the series in the same direction that Rare established. Characters, locations, enemies, etc. It's just a shame that they were pretty average games.
If this is true, I'm going to look forward to it with curious optimism. Although incredibly different games, the Metroid Prime trilogy was absolutely outstanding, and are among the best videogames ever made. Retro clearly have talent. If they actually acknowledge what Rare did with the franchise and attempt to remain faithful to it, then colour me excited.
Ever since Nintendo reacquired the DK license, they've done next to nothing of interest with it outside the Mario Vs. Donkey Kong games, and that's a different kettle of fish because they harken back to the pre-Rare days. Jungle Beat was good, but apart from the inclusion of barrels, bananas, and one instance of the Donkey Kong Country jungle music, it had nothing to do with the DK franchise, and could easily have starred any other character (even a brand new one), and still been exactly the same experience. It's hardly a good use of a franchise when it's completely interchangeable.
The King of Swing games are pretty much the only games that decided to pick up everything and continue to take the series in the same direction that Rare established. Characters, locations, enemies, etc. It's just a shame that they were pretty average games.
If this is true, I'm going to look forward to it with curious optimism. Although incredibly different games, the Metroid Prime trilogy was absolutely outstanding, and are among the best videogames ever made. Retro clearly have talent. If they actually acknowledge what Rare did with the franchise and attempt to remain faithful to it, then colour me excited.
Sammy Samusu said:
Okay, I'm not sure if I read this right. Are you saying that Retro Studios didn't actually develop the title and that all they did that was good was create amazing artwork and that Miyamoto did the rest?
You do realize that's baloney, right? Miyamoto assists in nearly every Nintendo developed game sans-SPD titles. He was there to help, but the credit should go to the people who spent countless hours perfecting the title.
Again, I may be reading this wrong.
DieNgamers
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If it's true I'm sure it won't be a pure jump'n'run. Maybe an accessible jump'n'run - fighting game hybrid?
balladofwindfishes
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Wasn't FPS a new game type for them a decade ago? And look how well that turned out.zoukka said:
I have good faith in Retro. Of their 4 games (one of which was a compilation of the other 3) I have not been dissapointed.
Shotgun Kiss
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Bentendo said:
I didn't; I just moved the comment about the MvDK games to the previous paragraph. Although they're good games, and use the franchise well in the fact that they're based on it's origins, my main point was that Nintendo aren't also properly acknowledging what Rare did with the franchise.
It seems that apart from some of the other characters turning up in Mario sports/kart games, Nintendo seems reluctant to acknowledge anything Rare did with the franchise besides the association with jungles.
DisenLedZep
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Ok, this is awesome.
Retro is perfect as a studio who looks "outside of the box".
Giving them the Donkey Kong series is a great idea since it seems no one cares inside Nintendo itselft (cause they're too busy with other franchices).
Retro working on StarFox would have make me happier... but this is awesome news either way
Retro is perfect as a studio who looks "outside of the box".
Giving them the Donkey Kong series is a great idea since it seems no one cares inside Nintendo itselft (cause they're too busy with other franchices).
Retro working on StarFox would have make me happier... but this is awesome news either way
Ben2749 said:
That makes no sense at all. The roots of DK are the arcade games, not DKC. If Jungle Beat doesn't have anything to do with the franchise, neither do the DKC games, because barely have anything to do with the arcade games either, other than DK himself, the intro music and the use of barrels. Jungle Beat is as much a legitimate take on DK as DKC.
DK '94 and the Mario vs Donkey games are the ones who are actually much closer to the original series.
AceBandage
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Treasure should make a SF game, not Retro (not that they couldn't, but Treasure has so much more experience with that exact genre).
FunkyPajamas
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hmmm Retro-developed descent freespace-like starfox game with seamless third person shooting sequences? do want.DisenLedZep said:Retro working on StarFox would have make me happier... but this is awesome news either way
Same here, I'm not a huge fan of platformers so I never enjoyed playing DKC myself, though it was a fun game to watch my friends play.mr_chun said:
): I don't want to go the rest of this gen without a Retro game that I'd enjoy playing.
thestopsign
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I came in here to say that they should call it Donkey Kong Primate.
happyfunball
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What I find disappointing about this, if true, is that Retro is the only capable Western studio that Nintendo has. If they are now relegated to mascot platformers then they are not serving the niche that they were bought to serve. There are few developers willing to put any resources into a "non-kiddie friendly" title for Wii, and the list just got a bit smaller if this is true.
Being the good developers that Retro are, they will probably approach new DK from the point of the character and it's strengths. I mean you are a bigass gorilla who can leap, swing and smash stuff. I bet they can come up with something really good out of those basic qualities alone.
KeeSomething
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I'd much rather see EAD Tokyo give DK another go.
But I'm interested to see Retro's take. I hope is an adventure game like the Country games or Jungle Beat. I have no interest in Miyamoto's original Donkey Kong-type games.
But I'm interested to see Retro's take. I hope is an adventure game like the Country games or Jungle Beat. I have no interest in Miyamoto's original Donkey Kong-type games.
AceBandage
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teh_pwn said:
You can probably get a small guided tour.
You won't be able to really see much, though.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
All I really want is Retro to work in a genre that the rest of Nintendo fails at.
teh_pwn said:
No way. They're so secretive it's not even funny. You should read about what IGN and BoingBoing had to go through just to get in there. They were even invited by Retro yet apparently the company made them sign papers to make sure they wouldn't spill the beans if they saw something, they erased white boards and put some parts of the building off limits (as if they were going to sneak off and take pictures). :lol
FunkyPajamas
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I don't know, but they sure as hell need a new web designer, that's for sure.teh_pwn said:
http://www.retrostudios.com/news.htm
Rustymonke
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Urgh.
I want to see Retro put their talents (and especially their amazing art team) to work on something new. And if it's a platformer? Well, ffs.
I want to see Retro put their talents (and especially their amazing art team) to work on something new. And if it's a platformer? Well, ffs.
Father_Brain
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Well, I didn't see that coming.
Despite the "Kid Icarus LOL" comments, I'd be pretty damn surprised if this wasn't true. Yes, Matt made a fool of himself by blowing up the KI talk two years back, but he didn't post something like this saying it was coming two days before Nintendo's '08 press conference.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit disappointed that this isn't a new IP (or even a revival of a more obscure one), or something targeted more at older gamers. But as Shiggy says, that's consistent with Nintendo's overall approach to Western development this gen. Retro still has a very talented team, and I'm curious to see what they'll do with the franchise.
Despite the "Kid Icarus LOL" comments, I'd be pretty damn surprised if this wasn't true. Yes, Matt made a fool of himself by blowing up the KI talk two years back, but he didn't post something like this saying it was coming two days before Nintendo's '08 press conference.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit disappointed that this isn't a new IP (or even a revival of a more obscure one), or something targeted more at older gamers. But as Shiggy says, that's consistent with Nintendo's overall approach to Western development this gen. Retro still has a very talented team, and I'm curious to see what they'll do with the franchise.
FunkyPajamas said:
My current job is very secure. Nice thing about Austin though is that if I somehow lose it, there are a lot of companies to choose from. If I somehow get laid off, I'd could apply to Retro, Bioware, Dell, IBM, etc.
Shotgun Kiss
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Rafaelcsa said:
That's a pretty poor argument. Those arcade games are also the roots of the Mario series. So you're saying if Nintendo today decided to take the Mario series in a completely different direction, and cast aside Bowser, Goombas, Princess Peach, Yoshi, Wario, and even Luigi, and the actual established gameplay, such as getting to the end of the levels, jumping on enemies, etc, you'd be perfectly fine with that?
I never complained about the Mario Vs. Donkey Kong games. In fact I even specifically stated that their existence was a good thing, but there's no reason why Nintendo can't also acknowledge what Rare did with the series a little more. Rare had to take the series in some kind of direction, just as Nintendo did with Mario. The arcade games themselves weren't a franchise, but Nintendo and Rare respectively took the characters and established entire franchises and legacies around them. Disregarding that is significantly different to originally disregarding the gameplay mechanics in the arcade games.
Besides, it's not even as if the DKC games pretended that the arcade games never existed. They even gave a reason as to why the DKC games are so different; Cranky Kong is an aged version original Donkey Kong, and the current Donkey Kong is the grown-up version of the original Donkey Kong Jr. Cranky Kong also makes repeated comments about the arcade games.
DieNgamers
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It's the opposite here. It would be a total letdown for me if it was a Starfox.^^ DK rules!
EatChildren
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Ben2749 said:
You could even say Mario has stronger roots in the DK arcade game than DK himself. In that he was an uncontrollable slab of pixels who's limited animation and functionality consisted of thumping his chest and throwing barrels.
Donkey Kong didn't have a 'game' for himself until DKC. So yeah, I do agree that Nintendo should pay more attention to what Rare established.