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I'm an Atheist and i hate it.

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Instead i am now the most pessimistic person, i think there is no reason for anything to exist, yet i don't like the idea of not existing either because nothingness seems even more meaningless if that makes any sense. It doesn't help that my life has been miserable the last 6-7 years or so. So the whole "live your life to the fullest" atheist motto doesn't really work on me.

...But my sense and logic always tell me that existence is a stupid mystery that nobody will ever solve and at some point nobody sentient will exist to know about it.

I wonder if others have similar thoughts?



I remember that despite being raised Catholic and going to church, at a very young age, maybe 5 or 6, I went up to my mom and asked her if death was like going to sleep. And she said yeah, probably. Religion was always just a tradition, not something that was absolute truth.

Life is just the consequence of the randomness of the universe. It was bound to happen sooner or later by the mere existence of existence. You are right that there is no reason for anything to exist. So nothingness is the only release, the true freedom and the only real existence.

But there are ideas that transcend the nihilism. Your friendships, the love you bring to the people around you. The fact that we want to better ourselves and the world and perfect our knowledge.These things aspire to more than nothingness and while we are alive we can do our best to live the best lives possible, be the best version of ourselves we can be. If only for the brief blip in eternity that we are alive, we are able to transcend our true conditions, but we need to help one another and have compassion for one another. Nothing can take away the fact that we aspired to live and wanted something more, something better and that we did exist, even if nothing and no one remembers.
 
I don't understand. It doesn't matter because it'll be just like you never did it eventually.

I'm trying to understand why you are only concerned with the state of the universe a few trillion years from now.

If you were to help build a home with habitat for humanity, why does the fact that it will be gone 100 years from now concern you more than the fact that it will provide shelter for those in need during that 100 years?
 
Yeah, I have similar thoughts. I'm pretty envious of anyone who believes in that shit, but I just don't/can't get into ghost stories. It sucks.
 
I think you certainly need something to believe in.

Humans in general are built to be spiritual, it doesn't mean you have to go to mass but you need to define it for you. It could be a connectedness to others or a a feeling at one with the universe.

You need to find whatever it is for you to give your own life meaning. You're hitting that mid life crisis, everyone has one. Follow your guts and you'll find out what does it for you. It doesn't have to be religious.
 
:eyeroll:

No op you parents are atheists. You are not anything. You don't have any intellectual foundation to have a world system of your own. You are supposed to find it yourself.
 
You can come up with one if you wish. After all, there aren't special words for those who do believe in such things either.

Of course you could always decide that those people are called "fools," and then they could decide that those opposed are called "morons," but that's hardly productive.

There is a word for people that believe in santa and the tooth fairy - It's "children"
 
Sounds like you might be agnostic, or at least on the way?

If you're uncomfortable with not knowing, but also uncomfortable with knowing, then you just have to do some "soul searching" and find the comfort in not knowing.

Or something...
 
And atheism is a belief that theism is incorrect. That is something that necessarily follows from accepting atheism as a truthful representation of reality.
A widely accepted definition of atheism is the absence of belief in at least one god. So if you're religious, and you want to know how it feels to be an atheist, think about praying to Zeus.

It has temporary meaning but it all feels so pointless. And I don't think that's depression, I think it's just seeing what reality is.

Rust Coyle in True Detective spoke to my thoughts.
http://youtu.be/A8x73UW8Hjk
The point is the meaning you find in the moment. There is no meaning without minds. So congratulations, you are a creator of meaning.

That makes you pretty special compared to all the other configurations of matter in the universe, actually. Don't take it lightly!
 
You can come up with one if you wish. After all, there aren't special words for those who do believe in such things either.

Of course you could always decide that those people are called "fools," and then they could decide that those opposed are called "morons," but that's hardly productive.

I'm not really sure of the argument you're ultimately trying to make. That reasonable people who don't believe in God can only be agnostic and not atheistic?

edit: I'm genuinely confused, so if I'm interpreting your series of posts wrongly, please correct me.
 
It's pretty easy once you learn enough about science, philosophy, and logic. Nothing in nature points to a design. Quite the opposite, actually. The universe and living beings look precisely as they should if they arose from natural processes over vast spans of time.

The evidence and arguments could hardly be more clear. You've got to be capable of being honest with yourself, and willing to overcome your own biases, though. Fear of death, and the corresponding desire to believe in some sort of escape, some kinder alternative to mortality, is compelling. Magical thinking is a tough thing to move past, too, depending on your upbringing and natural curiosity.

you speak of "natural processes", which is something that easily could be considered "God" to someone. same thing with science's favorite origin story The Big Bang (theorized by a Catholic priest), the concept of a singularity is hardly any stranger than the concept of a god.

what you don't seem to realize is that faith doesn't rely on evidence and arguments. otherwise if a non-Christian read the Bible they would be instantly convinced. it is about symbols, it is about the collective unconscious, it is about archetypes, etc. all describing something indescribable. you may as well get into an argument with a painting or poem.
 
I think you are just being edgy and don't really believe or act as this was true.

Why you bothering to visiting this forum and post if after all there are no meaning. You doing this because there are meaning for you in doing it... The same is true to other people that care about the future generations.

I don't know, same reason I do anything, I'm bored. I don't think there's any meaning in this. What else do I do? As Rust said in the link I posted above, I lack the constitution for suicide. :)
 
:eyeroll:

No op you parents are atheists. You are not anything. You don't have any intellectual foundation to have a world system of your own. You are supposed to find it yourself.
How did you end up with this conclusion?

Both my parents are christians btw.
 
I personally think that realizing that there isn't any actual magic behind our how universe works actually makes it that much more magical. Seriously how amazing it is that we all live in such an intricate universe, and that our minds can actually conceive that! Also knowing that I have only started existing about 30 years ago, and my conscience will cease to exist again in the future makes me appreciate my life more.
 
There is a word for people that believe in santa and the tooth fairy - It's "children"

This is disingenuous though, and exactly the example I gave. Akin to saying the word for people who believe in gods is "delusional," who then turn around and have nasty words of their own for atheists. It's not productive.
 
you speak of "natural processes", which is something that easily could be considered "God" to someone. same thing with science's favorite origin story The Big Bang (theorized by a Catholic priest), the concept of a singularity is hardly any stranger than the concept of a god.

what you don't seem to realize is that faith doesn't rely on evidence and arguments. otherwise if a non-Christian read the Bible they would be instantly convinced. it is about symbols, it is about the collective unconscious, it is about archetypes, etc. all describing something indescribable. you may as well get into an argument with a painting or poem.

But religious texts go to lengths to describe the creation process. It's not simply left as a impenetrable mystery. It's a simple matter to argue if such a thing is feasible or not.
 
People who believe in god have a greater sense of peace about how the world will turn out, no doubt about it. It's not like an atheist is any more "enlightened" than a believer. There's just as much proof that God doesn't exist as proof that he does exist.

What's better? Believing that when you die you go to heaven? Or believing that when you die, you cease to exist?

I never like to call out or insult beliefs, but no there is no actual proof of this in any way.

I may borderline on agnostic because I wouldn't be surprised if diety-like being did exist in some form. However I am not naive to believe any human being living in any time of history has figured it out. That's been my stance since I was very young.

I do like to believe that certain religions are a great path to teach morals and a way of living if taught properly. Just never been religious myself.
 
Any serious atheist is agnostic because agnostic is about knowledge about existence of god. We can't know for sure if there is a god. Therefor for knowledge stand point of view we are agnostic.

It's meaningless to speculate on a null existence. At this point, we may say for sure is that the current view of a god or deity is an entirely human construct like so many other gods we have conjured. That view I hold no belief as existing in the reality currently probed by scientific progress.

Does not really matter, one way or the other, as there's no reason for me to hold that type of belief.

Atheists (does not make sense to add serious) is not agnostic.
 
Whatever is holding this universe together is amazing. I just don't think anyone on this planet has a clue of what that is. Anyone can write fairy tales.
 
Atheists do have "beliefs."

Life, in Darwinian terms, has a purpose.

The "pessimistic" atheist meme is boring. New Atheism is shit, it does nothing but reiterate and belittle.
 
EDIT - PSA

JAYDEN SMITH IS DEAD? I'm hearing suicide?


EDIT 2 - fake af. Hate these hoaxes
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Sorry for the off-topic...I can't make a thread.


Also, OP believe in what makes life easier for you.
 
I see where the OP is coming from, definitely.

When a family member dies, the rest of my family comforts themselves with the idea that that person is now happy in heaven - "in a better place" - and watches down over us, and is still with us. I don't believe that at all and it makes things difficult.

My mom was a Catholic and raised us Catholic, but as a child I realised quickly that my dad was different. I didn't know he was 'atheist' until I was older and understood what that meant. When his brothers died young it made it very hard for him to process their absence from his life and the meaninglessness of the way they died (cancer) or the fact that they left small children behind. The world just seemed cruel and capricious and shit, and he fell into depression. I really believe religion would have helped him deal with that situation.

Fortunately after a couple of years he found the strength to push through it and enjoy life again. Like me, though, he's absolutely terrified of dying.
 
you speak of "natural processes", which is something that easily could be considered "God" to someone. same thing with science's favorite origin story The Big Bang (theorized by a Catholic priest), the concept of a singularity is hardly any stranger than the concept of a god.

what you don't seem to realize is that faith doesn't rely on evidence and arguments. otherwise if a non-Christian read the Bible they would be instantly convinced. it is about symbols, it is about the collective unconscious, it is about archetypes, etc. all describing something indescribable. you may as well get into an argument with a painting or poem.
What kind of putz would consider things like the four fundamental forces God? That's dumb as hell, considering the common conception of God as an omnipotent and omniscient being who can hear and answer prayers.

I am well familiar with just about any argument religious apologists like to deploy. Countering them has grown boring, because I don't really care about convincing anyone, and I am not especially adept at regurgitating my half-remembered sources. I would simply encourage you to learn a lot more about science and keep an open mind, if topics like whether the universe was created are interesting to you.

Personally, I'm rather firmly convinced of my worldview as a materialist with no faith in any popular version of god whatsoever. I'm still interested in hearing original arguments and considering any evidence of a god though. But everyone seems to repeat the same things as if they were new. Scientific literacy and critical thinking have gone to pot. In this country, at least.
 
It's meaningless to speculate on a null existence. At this point, we may say for sure is that the current view of a god or deity is an entirely human construct like so many other gods we have conjured. That view I hold no belief as existing in the reality currently probed by scientific progress.

Does not really matter, one way or the other, as there's no reason for me to hold that type of belief.

Atheists (does not make sense to add serious) is not agnostic.

This is true.

Atheism doesn't imply Agnosticism. They answer two different questions.

That's why it helps to state both when someone asks your beliefs: Agnostic Athiest, Gnostic Atheist, Agnostic Theist, Gnostic Theist.

The two most popular ones being Agnostic Atheist and Gnostic Theist.

Edit: Of course you can apply a different answer to the overall question of the God Concept and specific definitions of a God, so it can get complicated.
 
This is why you embrace optimism.

And detach yourself from the internet snark and World-is-Going-to-Shit comments. GAF is one of the nicer and cordial boards around, but even then I'll check myself out of it when you go to a topic like "Police Shoot Unarmed Man." At this point I rather just go outside and see nature.

If you want something to believe in, believe in Leslie Knope.
 
I don't know, same reason I do anything, I'm bored. I don't think there's any meaning in this. What else do I do? As Rust said in the link I posted above, I lack the constitution for suicide. :)

Bullshit! You fear pain. Pain already have a meaning for you.

Anyway I will stop here.
 
I'm an atheist and I marvel at how awesome this world is every day. There's no need to buy into some batshit crazy bs in order to be awed by the universe.

Exactly.
Literally NO reason for religion to appreciate the world and all living creatures (as well as non-living elements) and No reason for religion to be a decent human being. Empathy is not a religious invention. In fact, it's arguably more fake with people of religion.
 
Try asking God for a sign that he's real. It might be something small like a crazy coincidence. If you get something and you're not sure if that was your sign, ask for another.

I think I asked somewhere around 5,000 times before I was convinced. Despite being raised Catholic, I was an atheist until last year at the age of 28 so it's never too late if you're genuinely interested.
 
What kind of putz would consider things like the four fundamental forces God? That's dumb as hell, considering the common conception of God as an omnipotent and omniscient being who can hear and answer prayers.

I am well familiar with just about any argument religious apologists like to deploy. Countering them has grown boring, because I don't really care about convincing anyone, and I am not especially adept at regurgitating my half-remembered sources. I would simply encourage you to learn a lot more about science and keep an open mind, if topics like whether the universe was created are interesting to you.

you said it yourself: the common conception of God is omnipotent and omniscent.

these qualities directly describe those four fundamental forces, found everywhere in the universe, informing every piece of matter we can observe. isn't God supposed to be everywhere?

though this does bring us into an interesting and ironic point, which is that often atheists have very clear definitions of the God they claim not to believe in.
 
Honestly, how can therapy convince you that nothingness doesn't destroy meaning? It just seems like reality to me. What can a therapist say?

Not only is meaning made, but nothingness itself is why we make meaning. It is from nothing that here we are, all bundled as somethings. To come from no-thing -- that is, no singular, discernable "thing" -- to become some thing or unit to describe is itself a wonderful mystery.

A therapist does not need to spin theological or spooky bullshit. A therapist is trained to talk and deal with people. Some people just need to be pried, and maybe pointed to things that are overlooked in typical awareness.

When people get upset that there's no purpose or meaning, they fail to realize their own sorrows and frustrations is due to their expectations and lens of perception that still infers purpose or meaning. How can no purpose, no necessity, no need to, ought to, must do, etc. be defeating unless one is looking at such things with a degree of expecting otherwise, even if slightly? I would wager the OP, despite a reasonable rejection of religion, may still be looking at things with some degree of "true point" to it.

If nothingness is truth, where is the problem? In one's projection that it should be otherwise. Examine one's conditioning so one can become more aware of the default whateverthefuckthereisness to things. It's in projections that suffering will begin, for it fights reality and wants something else, even if there could be nothing else on the cards.
 
Try asking God for a sign that he's real. It might be something small like a crazy coincidence. If you get something and you're not sure if that was your sign, ask for another.

I think I asked somewhere around 5,000 times before I was convinced. Despite being raised Catholic, I was an atheist until last year at the age of 28 so it's never too late if you're genuinely interested.
Pareidolia and confirmation bias can do a real number on people who are predisposed toward religious belief.

you said it yourself: the common conception of God is omnipotent and omniscent.

these qualities directly describe those four fundamental forces, found everywhere in the universe, informing every piece of matter we can observe. isn't God supposed to be everywhere?

though this does bring us into an interesting and ironic point, which is that often atheists have very clear definitions of the God they claim not to believe in.
I'm fucking yawning.

Sorry to be rude, but you are repeating very old, entirely nonsensical, and thoroughly refuted arguments. Read up on physics, I beg of you. And, I don't know, the history or religious apologetics? Some Youtube videos by atheists? (Well sourced, ideally.) Types of logical fallacies? How to construct and evaluate arguments? It's just... I feel you're not approaching this from an informed place.
 
"I think human consciousness was a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self aware"

Here is the problem, right there.

Yep. That's Philosophical Pessimism.

Cormac McCarthy's White in Sunset Limited:
“I don't believe in God. Can you understand that? Look around you man. Cant you see? The clamor and din of those in torment has to be the sound most pleasing to his ear. And I loathe these discussions. The argument of the village atheist whose single passion is to revile endlessly that which he denies the existence of in the first place. Your fellowship is a fellowship of pain and nothing more. And if that pain were actually collective instead of simply reiterative then the sheer weight of it would drag the world from the walls of the universe and send it crashing and burning through whatever night it might yet be capable of engendering until it was not even ash. And justice? Brotherhood? Eternal life? Good god, man. Show me a religion that prepares one for death. For nothingness. There's a church I might enter. Yours prepares one only for more life. For dreams and illusions and lies. If you could banish the fear of death from men's hearts they wouldnt live a day. Who would want this nightmare if not for fear of the next? The shadow of the axe hangs over every joy. Every road ends in death. Or worse. Every friendship. Every love. Torment, betrayal, loss, suffering, pain, age, indignity, and hideous lingering illness. All with a single conclusion. For you and for every one and everything that you have chosen to care for. There's the true brotherhood. The true fellowship. And everyone is a member for life. You tell me that my brother is my salvation? My salvation? Well then damn him. Damn him in every shape and form and guise. Do I see myself in him? Yes. I do. And what I see sickens me. Do you understand me? Can you understand me?”​

The "bare/bear witness" is a Pessimistic trope.
 
I'm trying to understand why you are only concerned with the state of the universe a few trillion years from now.

If you were to help build a home with habitat for humanity, why does the fact that it will be gone 100 years from now concern you more than the fact that it will provide shelter for those in need during that 100 years?

Because it will be just like they were never born. Why do something for someone that was never born? Now the way I get through life is by pretending this isn't the case and ignoring that everyone will die in the future, but when I think about it and I often think about it because it's hard to get out of my head, the realization for me is unavoidable that it's pointless and worth nothing in the long run.
 
you said it yourself: the common conception of God is omnipotent and omniscent.

these qualities directly describe those four fundamental forces, found everywhere in the universe, informing every piece of matter we can observe. isn't God supposed to be everywhere?

though this does bring us into an interesting and ironic point, which is that often atheists have very clear definitions of the God they claim not to believe in.

Yeah, but why does God care so much if I jerk it or not? Or maybe the concept of God is such a large social construct it permeates all levels of daily life. So much that no-believers have enough exposure to comment on it? Kinda like an overplayed song.
 
Imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in — an interesting hole I find myself in — fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in
it!'

-Douglas Adams

I said our circumstances of being in existence is one of luck and outside factors out of our control, not that the world we inhabit was "meant to be" or some how a grad plan.
 
I'm not really sure of the argument you're ultimately trying to make. That reasonable people who don't believe in God can only be agnostic and not atheistic?

edit: I'm genuinely confused, so if I'm interpreting your series of posts wrongly, please correct me.

This is what I'm criticizing:

It's the emphasis on smugly attempting to remove oneself from the equation, trying to be above the rabble somehow. "Everything else is about what you believe, but this one is different, this is about what you don't believe."

Well no, not really. Atheists still have plenty of beliefs. For one, they believe that others who base their lives on belief in a higher power are making a mistake.

This is not a phenomenon unique to atheism, of course. Many religions make similar claims as to their own philosophical/rhetorical uniqueness, that there's some aspect that sets them apart from everyone else's as some sort of evidence to their veracity.

Atheism is still about what a person believes, though. Sure, there's not a central belief system prescribed by it, but believing that atheism is true still clearly has a profound impact on the way an individual leads their life, the same as any religious individual. And yes, some atheists will be nihilistic and others will espouse humanism. Some religious people are assholes and others are kind and loving, too. It's all in how you interpret the way you should behave based on your own beliefs.
 
Pareidolia and confirmation bias can do a real number on people who are predisposed toward religious belief.


I'm fucking yawning.

Sorry to be rude, but you are repeating very old, entirely nonsensical, and thoroughly refuted arguments. Read up on physics, I beg of you.

i don't know what argument you think i am making. i am not saying physics doesn't exist. i am saying somebody may have a definition of God that matches up with what physics has discovered about the universe.

you seem to be making the argument that this definition of God is wrong. which is kind of shitty and fundamentalist.
 
Because it will be just like they were never born. Why do something for someone that was never born? Now the way I get through life is by pretending this isn't the case and ignoring that everyone will die in the future, but when I think about it and I often think about it because it's hard to get out of my head, the realization for me is unavoidable that it's pointless and worth nothing in the long run.

But those people were born, lived their lives (however long it was) and they experienced things within that time. Those experiences mattered at the moment they happened, both to them and the people that cared for them. Those experiences can be directly impacted by the actions of others, either for the better or worse.

I can't support the idea of dismissing the lives and experiences of living beings just because one day they won't be alive.

We might have to just agree to disagree here.
 
Because it will be just like they were never born. Why do something for someone that was never born? Now the way I get through life is by pretending this isn't the case and ignoring that everyone will die in the future, but when I think about it and I often think about it because it's hard to get out of my head, the realization for me is unavoidable that it's pointless and worth nothing in the long run.

a big problem with atheism is it seems unable to shake the bias towards a single human life being the end-all be-all of experience. you could consider yourself biologically, physically, mentally part of your parents, your genetic ancestry, etc. after all this is the way of the universe, time does not stop when you die, nor did it start when you were born. you were not formed from nothing, you came from your parents and the marks you leave on the world will influence things in the future. in general people to have less short-sighted view of reality.
 
Try asking God for a sign that he's real. It might be something small like a crazy coincidence. If you get something and you're not sure if that was your sign, ask for another.

I think I asked somewhere around 5,000 times before I was convinced. Despite being raised Catholic, I was an atheist until last year at the age of 28 so it's never too late if you're genuinely interested.

I'm a theist, and this may be the greatest bit of sarcasm I've read in a long time.

Please be sarcasm.
 
I used to kind of hate it.

Actually, I'm not sure that's the right word. I used to be dreadfully confused about it; I grew up in a family that had life, the universe, and everything all figured out down details they couldn't, and can't, possibly know. That's religion for you, I suppose, something I never understood. So one day I determined, through a mix of introspection and education, that something wasn't right, and after doing a lot of legwork and educated guesswork ended up agreeing with the notion that there is almost surely no God. I say almost surely, because I think it's a matter of probabilities when you're dealing with things you just can't know through any other means.

So I'm an atheist, or consider myself an atheist, but I also don't pretend that I know with 100% certainty there is no God; that would be similar to the proposition someone makes when they say with 100% that there is, which we both know is bullshit.

Anyway, talk about a lot of emotional and weird shit you have to grapple with when you're going from belief to non-belief. It's funny, because from day-to-day nothing has actually changed, but it kind of shatters your worldview to some degree, and picking up the pieces is about as fun as having someone stab you. I don't think people generally deal with picking up all those pieces at once; it's a slow, gradual process of deconstructing and reconstructing your old life into a new one, and worse, you have to both understand and respect that reconstruction, even when the new image is decidedly less "pretty" than the old one. Most atheists reconcile this by saying that it simply suffices to know what's "true," or what's most likely to be true based on the evidence. That can help, actually, if you consider yourself a philosopher where truth is the carrot. But really, it does suddenly pull back the curtain and turn order into a bit of chaos; it makes evil somehow more evil. And in ways, it makes good even better.

Yes, you have to decide what life means to you, and maybe you decide that it doesn't mean much, and that's probably okay. So many people base their entire lives around goals which make them happy; some have great jobs, others big families, some make it their business to see the world, and some want to write a book about eating healthy. None of these things directly relate to God, only tangentially, if you let them. At the end of the day, we'll die at some point, and then we can (or can't) really wrestle with the bigger question at play.

I mean, if I wake up on the "other side", my first question will probably be "Okay... who was actually right?" and watch it turn out to be the Mormons or something. Until then, your major goal should be to find a major goal and stop worrying about oblivion. My advice? Find a moral core. Be good for goodness sake. Understand your hobbies. Find work. Find self-worth. If you're still, after all that, feeling empty inside, go find God -- that last one though will surely take you your entire life.
 
Try asking God for a sign that he's real. It might be something small like a crazy coincidence. If you get something and you're not sure if that was your sign, ask for another.

I think I asked somewhere around 5,000 times before I was convinced. Despite being raised Catholic, I was an atheist until last year at the age of 28 so it's never too late if you're genuinely interested.

To be fair, if you asked God for a sign and he gave it to you, then there would be no need to have the sort of faith prescribed by most major world religions. You would simply know.

Depending on your own interpretations, receiving evidence of God's existence (outside of an "end times" scenario) would immediately disprove most religions. They say you need to have faith that God is there and taking care of you and hearing your prayers - now you no longer need to have faith, so whichever sort of God was revealed to you, it's not the one from the bible.
 
i don't know what argument you think i am making. i am not saying physics doesn't exist. i am saying somebody may have a definition of God that matches up with what physics has discovered about the universe.

you seem to be making the argument that this definition of God is wrong. which is kind of shitty and fundamentalist.
I suppose what I'm saying, then, is physics requires no prime mover. God is an entirely superfluous assumption. If someone has found a way to squeeze God into the ever-shrinking gaps in current knowledge, great. But that's not a very logically sound, much less intellectually respectable, position to take. People can and do take it though. And to them I say good luck. Humans have been twisting and tweaking evidence to fit their desired conclusions for ages, so why stop now?
 
I'm an Atheist, and at peace with it...
Sounds like you have a bit of a depression issue OP, moreso than a "lack of faith" issue.

Your mental state depends of your outlook on life, and what you choose to make it every single day.

Sure, one can focus on what one sees when turning on the news everyday, be it murder, rape, war, racism, disease or general unhappiness, but you can also choose to realize that the image being painted is 'from a certain point of view' (which is "if it bleeds it leads", for various well known reasons), and choose to view life through a different lens.

Arts (movies, music, poetry, reading, painting ... creating yourself), Games, volunteering, Science and research, Museums, traveling and visiting...
Humanity, besides being capable of evil and ugliness on an everyday basis, is also capable of greatness and beauty. Perhaps more often than not actually, in the right circumstances and with the right outlook on life, people are mostly good, benevolent and in spite of being deeply flawed we all seek happiness and peace to some level.
I also believe that regardless of one's circumstances, and I realize this sounds very much like it's coming from one of those self-help books, we always have a choice regarding our own outlook on life.

Perhaps all it takes is making a few changes to your daily routine or your environment?
 
OP have you heard about our Dark Lord Cthulhu? He might be just what you need.
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Ever since i remember, i never really believed in god. I always thought it was an absurd idea. I also thought that i'm among the "smart" ones or at least the lucky ones who are able to see through the bullshit.

But as i grow older i realize that i'm the unlucky one instead. Because i denied myself from a wonderful bed time story where god and his angels will always watch over everyone or something and that there is a deeper meaning to everything and that no matter how cruel something looks, it's always according to god's good plan and that i will live forever in some form so i won't miss anything, etc.

Instead i am now the most pessimistic person, i think there is no reason for anything to exist, yet i don't like the idea of not existing either because nothingness seems even more meaningless if that makes any sense. It doesn't help that my life has been miserable the last 6-7 years or so. So the whole "live your life to the fullest" atheist motto doesn't really work on me.

Sure, religious people have hell to worry about but that's just something to keep things interesting. That's the whole point of religion. It's interesting. It has a meaning. Nothingness has no meaning. I hate the idea of death because of it. And i actually feel very jealous of people who really believe in god without knowingly kidding themselves. I wish i could do too. But my sense and logic always tell me that existence is a stupid mystery that nobody will ever solve and at some point nobody sentient will exist to know about it.

I wonder if others have similar thoughts?

I'm sure it's been mentioned already but this post basically proves that old saying "If God didn't exist it would be necessary to invent him". It was supposed to be Voltaire I think, but probably Philosoraptor.
 
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