Edgelord79
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Which part curiously? I thought they were OEM and couldn't be bought off shelf.That's not true at all.
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Which part curiously? I thought they were OEM and couldn't be bought off shelf.That's not true at all.
Sorry I updated; I meant the part where you can't replace them.Which part curiously? I thought they were OEM and couldn't be bought off shelf.
Interesting. I have never owned an Alienware due to what I've heard consistently. Good to know you can buy and replace the parts yourself.Sorry I updated; I meant the part where you can't replace them.
Mostly standard; but I guess some of the systems do have motherboards with weird shapes.
However I don't think anything else can't be replaced or upgraded.
Yeah just googled; people even upgrade the motherboards. There was a fan controller at some point that didn't play nicely with some motherboards but that issue is largely fixed I guess.Interesting. I have never owned an Alienware due to what I've heard consistently. Good to know you can buy and replace the parts yourself.
Sorry I updated; I meant the part where you can't replace them.
Mostly standard; but I guess some of the systems do have motherboards with weird shapes. Although honestly aren't those replaceable too in most of their designs? Mine is just one of the standard ATX MB layouts.
However I don't think anything else can't be replaced or upgraded.
Why do you believe this is great timing? GPU costs are ridiculous right now. Troll post?Great timing for jumping in. I strongly advise doing your best at building it yourself.
Right now I can buy a prebuilt with 5900x and 3090 for 3799, sometimes it makes sense.Don't
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Prebuilt
Ever.
More sarcasm, less trolling.Why do you believe this is great timing? GPU costs are ridiculous right now. Troll post?
Don't
Buy
Prebuilt
Ever.
Where are you seeing decent gaming PC parts for cheap?Try and grab some second hands parts for cheap
I agree with this, and i dont know if someone said it (didnt read all posts) but you can let someone else build it physically if you are not expert in this, what you need to do is choose the specs yourself for whatever suits you. And with that i agree with your posts.There are thousands of videos on YouTube that go over the process of assembling a PC. It's not rocket science.
Don't
Buy
Prebuilt
Ever.
Build your own.Looking at Trustpilot, Alienware has one of the worst customer service performances you will come across: https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.alienware.co.uk
That being said, they are owned by Dell so I'm wondering if I should seriously consider the following deal which seems to have magnificent specs (it is just slightly above my budget of 2000£):
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Should I go for it or can I find better elsewhere or should I stay away from alienware out of principle?
Thanks Gafers
Ah, to hell with this opinion honestly.Don't
Buy
Prebuilt
Ever.
Ah, to hell with this opinion honestly.
Haha i feel like this is the most polite rebuttal in Gaf that i've had.To hell with yours. Calm down. Relax. Breathe.
lol lotta hate for Alienware in this thread.. well i've been using my Alienware laptop for neigh on 3yrs trouble free, not a fucking issue and have just taken delivery of the latest RTX model, cant wait tbh.. does help that its work bought ;-) but if i had £2500 to blow on a PC id certainly be building one
They’re ridiculously good bang for your buck, have great warranties, and as long as you get liquid cooled ones you’ve got nothing to worry about. People on here seem to have all sorts of misconceptions about them based on what just seems to be elitism. “Non standard parts” is one of the weird and wrong things going around. “Hard/impossible to upgrade” is another. Both completely wrong btw.There seems to be a very massive anti Alienware consensus so I'm wondering: is TechRadar in their pocket? they have listed the Aurora ryzen Edition R10 as "the best gaming PC, bar none – especially with the next generation rocking with configurations touting the RTX 3090 for 8K resolution gaming."
The best gaming PC in 2024: top picks for serious PC gaming
Find the best gaming PC on the market for your need and budgetwww.techradar.com
You don't need to order stuff all over the internet lol. You can get everything you need at Overclockers or Amazon for example. And if something goes wrong (unlikely) you just send it back like any other Amazon return.Yeah just googled; people even upgrade the motherboards. There was a fan controller at some point that didn't play nicely with some motherboards but that issue is largely fixed I guess.
They've addressed that part for the most part many years ago.
You are paying for a lot of OEM parts, so it's hard to price compare... but in my experience, I've just never had any issue with their parts lol. I've owned so many PCs over the years, with so many issues w/ name brand parts. I'm not saying you couldn't have issues w/ a Dell part, and their customer service is hit or miss, but that's every customer service lol.. good luck if an ASUS motherboard fries.. or any PC parts manufacturer.. the PC world sucks for that stuff.
I've seen the Linus / whoever videos going around.. they get spammed like crazy in every Alienware thread.. but I've just personally never had issues... I put a 2070 in this old Alienware a couple years back for a few hundred bucks (before things went crazy) and this old ass Alienware still kicking just fine.. performs great.. all "cheap OEM parts." They negotiate deals for parts w/i a particular spec range... it's really not that big of a deal they are "OEM."
And ignoring the OEM part.. every time I've priced an Alienware against Cyberpower/iBuypower/whoever else they were price competitive, and when they have a sale, they sometimes crush their prices... and then compare against buying all off the shelf parts and building? You save like $200 often at most...
I just don't get the "you must built it" folks... I'll pay $200 to not have to deal with ordering parts from all over the internet, dealing with separate companies if something goes wrong, or I fuck something up, etc.. and saves me the afternoon of doing it too lol
I'm perfectly capable of building a PC.. I also know how to change the oil in my car.. or replace a battery. I guess I'm just averse to doing shit if it's not THAT expensive to have someone else do it.
Well I put that part in because if you aren't deal hunting, there's a good chance you aren't saving any or much money at all due to how competitive the custom build market is (and they get wholesale pricing.) Those companies also.. actually get sent GPUs / CPUs lolYou don't need to order stuff all over the internet lol. You can get everything you need at Overclockers or Amazon for example. And if something goes wrong (unlikely) you just send it back like any other Amazon return.
You're entitled to pay someone to build it for you obviously, but it's easy enough to find a tutorial on YouTube, and that's $200 that could be spent on games/accessories .
No way, it will always be significantly cheaper to buy parts yourself than to get a pre-build, and some places will rip you off big-time.Well I put that part in because if you aren't deal hunting, there's a good chance you aren't saving any or much money at all due to how competitive the custom build market is (and they get wholesale pricing.) Those companies also.. actually get sent GPUs / CPUs lol
Look, I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do.. that's MY point.. I'm happy for people who want to build systems.. but how dramatically opposed to OTHERS not wanting to is the part I don't get. Many of the claims are either false or exaggerated as well, particularly about Alienware.
No way, it will always be significantly cheaper to buy parts yourself than to get a pre-build, and some places will rip you off big-time.
That's purely because of the overpriced GPU. In 'mormal' times its much cheaper to buy the parts yourself.Quick build on iBuyPower:
Same parts, nearly exact (can't pick the 3060TI brand, but i chose the cheapest I could find on Amazon):
Almost $100 more on Amazon.. and iBuyPower throws in a cheap mouse/keyboard.. oh and builds it for you lol
Like I said, w/o shopping around, there's a good chance you aren't saving much.. if anything..
Yeah, that feller forgot to substract $550 of that amazon price. [3060 Ti is a 400$ deal] iBuypower or other pardners do not pay much above msrp and don't forget they buy all of their other parts in bulk as well, so it's more like $600+ rippof on this single PC.That's purely because of the overpriced GPU. In 'mormal' times its much cheaper to buy the parts yourself.
Personally I would look to buy an older card from a friend/local and wait until prices normalise rather than pay almost $1,000 for a 3060ti. Simply not worth it imo.
I didn't forget anything.... i mentioned that the builders are actually getting GPUs.Yeah, that feller forgot to substract $550 of that amazon price. [3060 Ti is a 400$ deal] iBuypower or other pardners do not pay much above msrp and don't forget they buy all of their other parts in bulk as well, so it's more like $600+ rippof on this single PC.
You really think ibuypower or other builders pay 950 for 3060ti They get the contract early in for ex for 1000 units for $400 each. 950 - 400 = 550 + the deals on other parts. So $600 fleecing figure is sound.I didn't forget anything.... i mentioned that the builders are actually getting GPUs.
RIGHT NOW that's what you get for a competitive GPU.
You want a GPU you can get for retail at Amazon?
Well I switched it out to a GT1030.. the only one really you can get that iBuyPower offers.
Amazon now saves you ~$140. Around what I said initially, that the savings might be a couple hundred bucks. But iBuyPower... also builds it for me lol.. they supply thermal paste, generally some wiring, they also do have a fan/RGB controller I didn't account for, something that would likely cost you $50 on Amazon..
More like a $600 ripoff? What exactly are you even talking about? Your math is terrible.
Turns out, GPUs are just overpriced these days. Will the cost normalize? Sure doesn't look that way when most manufacturers are saying chip shortages are going to last a least a few more years. "Just wait a few years" is good advice for people looking to save money, but it's not entirely practical here.That's purely because of the overpriced GPU. In 'mormal' times its much cheaper to buy the parts yourself.
Personally I would look to buy an older card from a friend/local and wait until prices normalise rather than pay almost $1,000 for a 3060ti. Simply not worth it imo.