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im so tempted to switch permanently to consoles

Another thing that drove me away from consoles is the backwards compatibility.

Take Fallout franchise for example, there's like two Fallout games on PS5 (4 & 76), and sure there's more on Xbox Series X but still does not hold a candle to PC, not to mention the graphics settings, QoL improvements and mods.

and that's just one example, there're so many classic franchises that are simply incomplete or subpar on consoles. Games like Portal or Half-life 2 might as well be PC exclusives becasue they look and play terrible on PS3/360.
 
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I think that people should go PC if: they like PC-only games like Total War, they like to fiddle with hardware, and they have a lot more disposable income. Because the price of PC components have gotten absurd the past 5 years since you bought that 1080TI. Or, if you have some sort of mental hang up about not playing games at max settings and resolution, which ties directly to the other parts.

If that isn't the case then just get a PS5 and enjoy what it has and what it is doing. Unless you watch DF videos and obsess over tech stuff on forums like this, the issues that get brought up simply do not matter.

People think PS5 run games at 4K with close to maxed out settings, but that's not really the case. For example here's how Dead Space remake runs on current gen consoles.

The truth is that most people who own these high end cards are not playing them at native resolution on PC anymore lol. In fact, I would say that is probably the biggest disadvantage to owning a GTX card vs. RTX these days. When people with a $1600 4090 are not running games at native res then why ding the PS5 for not doing it. Sub-native resolutions are just the new normal, and it is because there just isn't a large leap between 1440p and 4K the way there was going from 720p to 900p to 1080p especially when you take into account all these new AA techniques.
 
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Reasons to switch to console:

1. Controllers vs. Keyboard. Sure, MKB might be more accurate, have infinite button assignments and customization - BUT they also have letters on them, and way more holes to collect debris.

Controllers - look cooler! Haptic feedback!

2. Exclusives generally come faster. Unless you choose Xbox. If you choose Xbox, you are putting yourself in a worse loop than PC. If you choose PS, you get exclusive day 1. Also, ps5 has that horrific pretentious pretend art look that is a conversation piece for sure!

3. The most important. Perception.

Let me explain, purely by example.

If you are meeting a lady- "want to come back and play some PlayStation and watch Netflix?"

This is socially acceptable.

However…

"WaNt To CoMe OvEr AnD cHeCk OuT mY gAmInG PC wiTh My NeW 406969 GrApHiCs CaRd?!?!11!?"

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PC - Has Kenshi
Console - Has no Kenshi

PC wins
 
The only advantage of consoles are exclusives. Xbox has halo infinite (lmao) and a rhythm game. Sony does not release enough exclusives per year to justify playing only on a ps5 alone. Getting a new gpu every few years is pretty much the same as buying a new gen console but with more options.
THE ONLY advantage?
What about price, silence, controller, 3d audio, physical media, ease of use and no more need for pcgamingwiki.com to fix games for the devs.

Sometimes, the simple option is what someone might need. Even with 4090pc, some stuff are broken or launch broken. It's about optimized plug and play experience.
I know everything there is to know about pc gaming. I have a good pc and I still see some reasons to not keep up with pc bs and go for console alongside
 
Question : Do you like the idea of turning on aim assist when playing an FPS?
And what if I have no interest in FPS to begin with ?

Do you like the idea of not having analog triggers and joysticks for movement when playing on PC ?
 
Oh rofif, like clockwork with pcgamingwiki

3D audio, controller? Windows support 3D audio out of the box, there's Dolby atmos license too if you want. What is even a problem with controllers on PC?

Silence is controlled with quality fans, I don't think I ever got a console as silent as my PC outside of Nintendo consoles which are always oddballs with low power.
 
I've been stuck in the PC->Console->PC loop for decades. Shit, it pretty much started back with the 486.

10 I have a PC, but it doesn't play games as good as well as console. I need to upgrade my pc.
20 I've upgraded (or replaced) my PC. I can now play any PC game I want full-out. Who needs a console? Life is good.
30 Several years have passed. A new console has come out. It has exclusive games I want to play, and looks better than my PC. I need to buy that console.
40 I have my new console. I can play all the games I want. Life is good.
50 Several years have passed. New PC games are out that I want to play, but my old PC can't handle them. And it's not like a console replaces a PC. I need to upgrade my PC.
60 GOTO 20

Only now have I reached the point where I don't feel like I need a new console anymore. I can play 95% of anything console on PC. Those games I can't play, like MLB, I can live without.

When a new console drops, I have to buy new everything. New controllers, new peripherals, new games. When I upgrade my PC, I just buy the PC parts. All the other stuff still works with it.

Also, I don't have to pay to play my PC games online, and most PC games are significantly cheaper than console games, especially when sales roll around.

I hardly touch my PS4 anymore. I can barely see it under the dust. I think the cycle is finally broken. PC forever.
 
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And what if I have no interest in FPS to begin with ?

Do you like the idea of not having analog triggers and joysticks for movement when playing on PC ?

Pretty sure you can use pretty much every controller on PC...

Anyway, If you don't play FPS at all then I guess another test would be ''Do you like having millions of indie games to play and not have to worry about whether it comes to your console or not?''
 
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I don't blame you, Jen Hsun and Lisa's cards don't have the value they think they do... look at how much they were are asking for a 3060ti a few months ago, and how that card chokes on Dead Space remake and Hogwart's Legacy.
 
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I've been stuck in the PC->Console->PC loop for decades. Shit, it pretty much started back with the 486.

10 I have a PC, but it doesn't play games as good as well as console. I need to upgrade my pc.
20 I've upgraded (or replaced) my PC. I can now play any PC game I want full-out. Who needs a console? Life is good.
30 Several years have passed. A new console has come out. It has exclusive games I want to play, and looks better than my PC. I need to buy that console.
40 I have my new console. I can play all the games I want. Life is good.
50 Several years have passed. New PC games are out that I want to play, but my old PC can't handle them. And it's not like a console replaces a PC. I need to upgrade my PC.
60 GOTO 20

Only now have I reached the point where I don't feel like I need a new console anymore. I can play 95% of anything console on PC. Those games I can't play, like MLB, I can live without.

When a new console drops, I have to buy new everything. New controllers, new peripherals, new games. When I upgrade my PC, I just buy the PC parts. All the other stuff still works with it.

I hardly touch my PS4 anymore. I can barely see it under the dust. I think the cycle is finally broken. PC forever.

Same, I think it depends on how crappy the console generation is.

I got caught into the PS4 hype back in 2013 and I ended up as a PS4-only gamer for 5-6 years until I finally couldn't stand the shitty frame rate & poor joystick deadzones in some games. (Also no FOV settings in most games)

PC is just so much better, you are always playing the best version of a game with the best possible performance, you can even straight up change FOV/AA/LOD in some games by simply changing a number in the system.txt, .ini or .cfg files.
 
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OP you're complaining about having to upgrade a GPU created to play 8th gen games because you can't max out 9th gen games.

If you upgrade now to something like 3070 or 6700xt you'll last all gen at 1440p with ease, you don't need to constantly upgrade, you just bought way too close to generational leap and it hit you... Imagine if I got a PS4 in 2020 and started complaining that it's not getting PS5 games anymore, that's the console equivalent of your complaint.
Even bigger jump if purchase a 6700 XT for the same monies as the 3060.

But to be honest, to me it appears that OP is being very dramatic. lol
Currently playing A Plague Tale Requiem on a 6700xt at 1440p on high with textures on Ultra from mid 50 to more than 80 fps, I could play it at 4K but I don't want it to run below 60 most of the time, can take some dips due to VRR though... The thing runs way better than on any console.

I'd get getting a console for exclusives or comfortability but constant upgrade isn't a valid reason, GPUs that are more powerful than XSX's are already below console price point, even if you just upgrade your GPU you'll spend around or cheaper than consoles and still get more power.
 
That's why I'm on consoles. Ease of use and $.

Nothing against the PC. I liked mine. But upgrading, etc. is all part of that hobby. Life ended up getting in the way and time became more limited the older I got.

Consoles gimme that quick gaming fix with little fuss vs. a pc.
 
Yeah, playing forspoken on console was a disgrace.
Was it? It drops a lot in quality mode... but I couldn't care honestly. It was mostly fine. At least had less input lag than some 30fps games which use system level vsync like demons souls.

Again - Console for me is about just games. Simplicity and not being exposed to too many settings, forums, fixes and so on. On top of that, I find the pc culture very toxic recently.
People are very proud about their computers, which cost a lot of money.
I feel that I can appreciate some part of consoles because I have around 25 years of pc experience now. Starting with S3, then first 3dfx (which I just bought again!!!!!!) and so on.
After years and years, I kinda like simple consoles, even though there is nothing difficult or hard to understand on pc. It's not about lack of knowledge at all. It's about "ignorance is bliss"
 
For the price of a PS5 / XSX you could spend ....

250 for a used 12700k
150 for a motherboard
450 for a used 3080 - You can get rofif rofif to sell you his as he never buys PC versions of anything
 
Just have both. If you own a decent PC you can probably afford a console or 2
More choice of games and if one works better then the other you have options
 
I don't blame you. I do more wiki searching and driver updating than gaming. PC is too complicated.
Lets not forget about all the hex editing to adjust screen resolution, and PTSD from having to lower reflection quality to high instead of ultra.
 
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Oh rofif, like clockwork with pcgamingwiki

3D audio, controller? Windows support 3D audio out of the box, there's Dolby atmos license too if you want. What is even a problem with controllers on PC?

Silence is controlled with quality fans, I don't think I ever got a console as silent as my PC outside of Nintendo consoles which are always oddballs with low power.
Not like that. (warning, bring rant incoming. Friendly. I am not annoyed yet :p )
I have 3x Silent Wings3 140mm be quiet fans set to 800rpm max speeds. my pc is very very quiet unless 3080fe goes off! That thing is a jet.
But that aside, ps5 is queiter than even my pc idling still. Not because fans are louder but because pc simply got more fans and is bigger.
3d audio? I used dolby heaphone in like 2007. And creative cas before. Nothing new. Nothing sounds like solution on ps5 honestly. Atmos is proprietary stuff for which you have to pay and use weird solutions to make it work on pc. On ps5, You just put global 3d audio toggle on and forget.

I doubt that your pc is not as quiet as ps5. Even your idling pc unless you stop your fans. Water cooling? Pumps alone are louder than ps5. And the coil whine on my 3080fe is the stuff of nightmares lol.

But all that aside - these re just technicalities. I would still use pc if it was louder and so on. It's not about that. It's about not having to deal with other factors. Just put in the game.
For a person that is a perfectionist and don't like distractions.

I know most of you will not udnerstand. I always had a pc. There was not a second of my life since 1997, I didn't had a pc that was mostly mid-high end. My first console aside from bootleg nes, was 360. then ps4 and now ps5 and I immediately appreciated the console and found that I do not care how the game runs and stuff simple because there is nothing I can do about it. And I can have the game on disc as I've said.
Sure - Edfe 2017 ran barely 30fps on 360... but guess what? We finished the whole thing 2 years ago in split screen. That thing was like 7fps on the last level and we had tremendous amounts of fun.
To counter this, we finished edf 4 and 5 4k60fs split screen on pc.

I've seen examples of terrible games that made people switch to pc... yes. Far cry 3 is among worst consoles ports ever. I agree. it was a nightmare on 360. But I played it on pc of course.

But no matter what I say. No matter of 600 games steam library, retro pcs(I have.. almost 4)... all I get is being laughed at because I really like collecting and playing on a console. I choose new multiplat games on a console. I never did that. only with ps5. The pc community is making me kinda sick. People only now discover 120hz and are so proud about it. bitch, I have 180hz crt in my cellar. I plugged that thing back 2-3 years ago, replayed all of rtcw, unreal, hl1, max payne1, 2.... and people call me a console peasant?! Contrary to some belief, I do use my 3080. Not too much but I do :p

I wish people could understand that owning a pc does not make you have to run circles around it. I am tired of fixing devs mistakes and I like what consoles offer curently.
There is also a very cool feeling of pulling an old console out and playing the original version of the game as it released. I like that collecting aspect.

edit: The prices and horrible rotten market are also bad nowadays but I don't care as much. if it's your hobby, you will find the money. There are way more expensive hobbies than pc gaming. Like fishing... seriously
 
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For the price of a PS5 / XSX you could spend ....

250 for a used 12700k
150 for a motherboard
450 for a used 3080 - You can get rofif rofif to sell you his as he never buys PC versions of anything
ps5 is 400 and uses 200watt :P It's apples to oranges.
yeah I barey use that 3080 but my pc is the ultimate dark souls trilogy 4k machine :P
I buy pc games. But new new releases I stick to ps5 recently. I think RE village was the last AAA pc release I've bought on pc at release.
But I still, only recently in last month or two, played crysis trilogy, metro rtx, far chbanging tides, saints row 3 remastered, stanley parable ultra deluxe, vampire survivors, venineth and few other. I use pc almost for everything aside from new AAA recently. but I still treat ps5 as my main platform now
 
I'm late and kinda sick from a cold so I'll just leave this here for the next thread, should be fun.

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Was it? It drops a lot in quality mode... but I couldn't care honestly. It was mostly fine. At least had less input lag than some 30fps games which use system level vsync like demons souls.

Again - Console for me is about just games. Simplicity and not being exposed to too many settings, forums, fixes and so on. On top of that, I find the pc culture very toxic recently.
People are very proud about their computers, which cost a lot of money.
I feel that I can appreciate some part of consoles because I have around 25 years of pc experience now. Starting with S3, then first 3dfx (which I just bought again!!!!!!) and so on.
After years and years, I kinda like simple consoles, even though there is nothing difficult or hard to understand on pc. It's not about lack of knowledge at all. It's about "ignorance is bliss"

At some point you have to realize all of this a rofif problem and not the normal experience of PC gamers.
 
At some point you have to realize all of this a rofif problem and not the normal experience of PC gamers.
Of course it is my preference!
Well Indonlike features that console offers like dualsense and physical media.

But one thing that is undeniable is pricing on hardware and feeling you got a better bang for the buck with console hardware.

And pc AAA releases bugs. Always an issue recently. At least for a week or two
 
Seems recent releases have just been bugged in general, not just pcs.
For sure. But devs have to find a way around dx12 crap, shader compilation and IO struggles. These are not really system level integrated and universal yet.
Epic is trying to do something... so is microsoft. I guess it will get together sooner rather than later
 
Of course it is my preference!
Well Indonlike features that console offers like dualsense and physical media.

But one thing that is undeniable is pricing on hardware and feeling you got a better bang for the buck with console hardware.

And pc AAA releases bugs. Always an issue recently. At least for a week or two

We get it man. Idk why you would build a PC in the first place if the sight of a setting screen sends you in a frothing rage. You are in every thread with PC in the title ranting about PCGamingWiki and physical media. I would bet money you have spent more time shitting up PC threads this month than I have messing with settings in the last 2 years.
 
I had Playstation for years. I switch to PC and couldn't be happier. My reasons:

1.Mouse and keyboard is soo much better for fps games.I played with controller for years and never could get used to it.

2.Sim racing games-GT7 is a sim- cade,not very good physics and ffb, ACC on PS5 is nice but there's like 50players in total. Simracing on PC is night and day difference compared to console.

3.Much much MUCH more people use mic on PC compared to console.
 
We get it man. Idk why you would build a PC in the first place if the sight of a setting screen sends you in a frothing rage. You are in every thread with PC in the title ranting about PCGamingWiki and physical media. I would bet money you have spent more time shitting up PC threads this month than I have messing with settings in the last 2 years.
You overstate my reactions in pc threads I think. I am not that negative.
I will keep building new pc's. Pc gaming is not going anywhere and I use it very single day. I don't only game on it. I do everything on it.
I could share my list of games finished in last few years... most are on pc probably or it's 50/50.
bet Your ass I replayed Metro Exodus on 1060, 2070 and on 3080 the week I got the cards. And I will do it on 5080 or whatever it will be
 
Why do you think you'll need to change mobo and CPU in ~2 years? Games will still be largely made with the current consoles in mind so the CPU will last you as long + crossgen period (if not the next gen). Your GPU is from 2016, so that lasted ~7 years.

Hardly a "constant" upgrade cycle for the benefit of having basically every platform available to you, from PC to Xbox to PlayStation to VR to even Switch with emulation (and with the latter almost all older platforms/arcades on top, all in one little box).

With this abundance of games for any performance level from any platform you can choose and upgrade at the best time possible and it can be many years after getting the hardware, like with your GPU example, don't let 1 or 2 high end games bait you.

Basically this thread could have almost the same content but be a flex rather than a disappointment, lol: Upgraded my CPU in 2019 after x years now upgrading my GPU after 7 years and I can always play anything under the sun, fuck yea, pc gaming rules!

Especially if despite "caring" about high graphics you obviously don't mind the idea of just gaming on console even if you "struggle to reach medium" instead so you can make the upgrades more modest & more far apart, PC gaming isn't just the top 1%.
 
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Atmos is proprietary stuff for which you have to pay and use weird solutions to make it work on pc. On ps5, You just put global 3d audio toggle on and forget.

I bought a license on Microsoft store for like $12 (?) and enabled it... that's it? I don't get the weird solution.

I doubt that your pc is not as quiet as ps5. Even your idling pc unless you stop your fans. Water cooling? Pumps alone are louder than ps5. And the coil whine on my 3080fe is the stuff of nightmares lol.

I don't have a PS5 at home but from the next gen consoles I've heard at friend's, it's quieter.

BUT

I'm on a small form factor, meshlicious case, imagine that, straight perforated panels with no sound mitigation.
CPU cooler is Noctua NH-L12s
Case fans are Noctua A12x25, the most silent with best air pressure fans around for small form factor
GPU is 3080 Ti ASUS TUF, which is known for being way cool. Has fan stop for idle of course (always a feature nowadays no?)

5800X3D CPU is undervolted by PBO2 at -35
3080 Ti is undervolted @ 850 mV and stock clock

Motherboard fan curves are important and had to fiddle around with them when i upgraded to the 5800X3d (5600X before was not driving the cpu cooler as much).

It's so silent. Even while gaming. I can't imagine what it would be in a normal ATX tower with sound mitigation.

Fuck AIOs and their pumps. I ain't touching those with a ten foot pole.


I wish people could understand that owning a pc does not make you have to run circles around it. I am tired of fixing devs mistakes and I like what consoles offer curently.
There is also a very cool feeling of pulling an old console out and playing the original version of the game as it released. I like that collecting aspect.

I always wait on PC until i know it's either OK or patched. I'm playing FF7 remake currently, used to be problematic when it launched on epic store, now mostly flawless on Steam. I'm playing a far superior version than consoles had/got. The question is do you REALLY need to play day 1? I don't understand the focus on that personally, my backlog is so huge.

Pulling out games and play, that's mostly gone on console. There's barely any games that you just pull out and play "original" day 1 launch.

But really, i don't care, i'm pulling your leg because of the pcgamingwiki thing. You have no excuse to be using it as much as you are, you don't even have ultrawide! :p
 
I bought a license on Microsoft store for like $12 (?) and enabled it... that's it? I don't get the weird solution.



I don't have a PS5 at home but from the next gen consoles I've heard at friend's, it's quieter.

BUT

I'm on a small form factor, meshlicious case, imagine that, straight perforated panels with no sound mitigation.
CPU cooler is Noctua NH-L12s
Case fans are Noctua A12x25, the most silent with best air pressure fans around for small form factor
GPU is 3080 Ti ASUS TUF, which is known for being way cool. Has fan stop for idle of course (always a feature nowadays no?)

5800X3D CPU is undervolted by PBO2 at -35
3080 Ti is undervolted @ 850 mV and stock clock

Motherboard fan curves are important and had to fiddle around with them when i upgraded to the 5800X3d (5600X before was not driving the cpu cooler as much).

It's so silent. Even while gaming. I can't imagine what it would be in a normal ATX tower with sound mitigation.

Fuck AIOs and their pumps. I ain't touching those with a ten foot pole.




I always wait on PC until i know it's either OK or patched. I'm playing FF7 remake currently, used to be problematic when it launched on epic store, now mostly flawless on Steam. I'm playing a far superior version than consoles had/got. The question is do you REALLY need to play day 1? I don't understand the focus on that personally, my backlog is so huge.

Pulling out games and play, that's mostly gone on console. There's barely any games that you just pull out and play "original" day 1 launch.

But really, i don't care, i'm pulling your leg because of the pcgamingwiki thing. You have no excuse to be using it as much as you are, you don't even have ultrawide! :p
Usually small form factors pcs are louder but Noctua fans are the best. Maybe I should upgrade from be quiet to noctua too
 
Usually small form factors pcs are louder but Noctua fans are the best. Maybe I should upgrade from be quiet to noctua too

My older SFF build was way louder, so shit. Was a Fractal design Node 202. CPU was Ryzen 1600 with a cryorig C7, and a single fan EVGA 1060 6GB... OUF. It sucked balls for sound.

I decided when i upgraded to live with a bigger volume case than the node 202, but go with quality cooling and a BIG FAT GPU cooler. Totally changed the experience.

But seriously, undervolting is a godsend. I hope you're abusing it.
 
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Yes, drop out from PC gaming. You might be ready to come back in the future or maybe never.

Consoles' value is unbeatable to be honest. PC gaming is, as other have said, a luxury. It does bring many things to the table like the possibility of reaching 4K/60FPS without compromises but that's not everyone's cup of tea, just like mods.

Consoles are pretty competent experience, TBH. When playing on HD resolutions there is no benefit.

I have thought about it but I really like to be able to customize my experience and have a backlog without worrying of support being dropped. I ended up building a new PC last month but I'm pretty happy with the PS5's performance too. Could do without either it if I had to.
 
should i just pull the plug and game only on consoles ? i have reached a point in my life ( 33 years old ) where i just cant afford to spend all the money on gaming so i cant continue with all platforms
Of course you should do it. Your time is precious - why waste it faffing about and tinkering?
 
OP could easily swing something like an RTX 3060, and still come out paying less than the price of a console while getting a pretty big performance jump.
I'm confused, GTX 1080 and RTX 3060 offer mostly identical performances no? Only difference is the support for DLSS and stuff.
 
I haven't upgraded in some time and still play the latest games on my 1080. My PC typically outlast the console as the consoles typically render at sub-par resolutions. You can do the same thing, honestly.
 
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i think more and more people are leaving the PC gaming, i could be wrong.
 
Right now i have a pc ( 3900x , 1080 ti , 32 gb ram ) , a ps4 pro and a xbox one x

I like gaming on the pc , its hooked to my tv so its not like i have to sit on my chair all the time , it just that i find it a little annoying that i constantly have to worry about upgrade , i like the easy use of consoles , just put the disk in and play , and you know 100% that the game will be optimized

with the pc now i have to change the gpu because its starting to show its age in 1440p , after 2 or 3 years i have to change cpu and mother board , and it keeps going , considering that i dont care about high fps the only disadvantage that i see is the graphics because i like high graphics and in 2 or 3 years i expect the consoles to struggle to reach medium settings

should i just pull the plug and game only on consoles ? i have reached a point in my life ( 33 years old ) where i just cant afford to spend all the money on gaming so i cant continue with all platforms
Your GPU is over 5 years old and you are constantly worrying about upgrading? You didn't worry about the 2080 Ti or the 3090 at least not to the level that you need to complain about it. Constantly upgrading is a problem for many but you clearly do not have that disease. It is possible to buy a GPU, use it for as long as a console lifecycle then upgrade it while maybe swapping out to a better CPU on the same board to keep that part of the system viable for even longer.

But it is also possible to catch upgradeitis and be looking to upgrade the rest of your whole fucking setup 2 months after moving from a 3090 to 4090. If you get out, you will never have that issue, but you are still going to want Xbox and PS games so that means ~ 1200 in hardware and accessories every gen at a minimum.
 
"I constantly have to worry about upgrades"

WITH A 1080ti
 
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