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[TheRagnCajun]

I'm really confused. Is it meant to be taken at face value or is it really a satire?

Isn't it obvious?

 

[lowlylowlycook]

Did they offer any advice as to how the Sony could improve the PS3's situation? Not really.

You know the gamefaqs guide I was using didn't tell me how to save Aeris. What a piece of junk!

What makes you think there is a way to fix a mistake like launching a console at literally 2x the priced of their previous consoles and despite still being $100 more than the launch price of previous consoles is still losing them money?

If I had ideas that would work, I wouldn't publish them I'd charge Sony at least a few hundred million for them.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

This is why I don't wander into the gaming side of GAF anymore. Crazies

 

[Liberty4all]

I'm really confused. Is it meant to be taken at face value or is it really a satire?

Personally I think abit of both. Which is what makes this thread even more funny to read, watching people argue from both sides.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

It took me a while to get it.. but this is one of PA's more brilliant comics.

 

[mikekennyb]

There seems to be a perverse perception that the hype surrounding any major PS3 game reflects an expectation among 'sony fans' that the game will be a market-changer. There are definitely folks who have held such expectations, who may hold such expectations about KZ2 - and maybe they're worth poking fun at in a comic - but I would say they're in a small minority.

Point taken.

I still feel that the vocal minority you mention is very... vocal :lol and visible, so that's who I think that the comic is aimed at. I wasn't around here during the original Xbox days, but I bet that there were probably MS fans who acted the same way about Halo and other Xbox exclusives.

 

[Azure J]

I came in here when this was just posted and there were only five responses and remember going "boring". Thank you GAF for changing all of that. This thread is magnificent

Spoiler

for all the wrong reasons

. :lol

In other news, that comic and the reference is ace.

 

[grandjedi6]

since this thread is a giant bitchfest i thought i'd chime in

emceegramr needs to either sod off to 4chan/somethingawful or stop spamming their shitty 2 year old memes over here

cheers

Like his predecessor before him, EmCeeGramr cannot be stopped. Ban him, nuke his account, it matters not for another one will just spring up to fill the void.

 

[Haunted]

Oh my, this thread took a turn for the awesome while I was away.

<3 GAF

 

[SouthernDragon]

This thread has "epic" written all over it.

With "failure" following right after.

 

[proposition]

What I get from the comic is that PS3 is gay and for fags, whereas XBox 360 is dumb and for lame-os.

 

[Esch]

Which was the point of the threads about them, by and large. No one expects Time or Variety to freelance Shawn Elliott.

I expect big, respected publications to write good in-depth articles. The purpose of the threads I don't argue with; they certainly demonstrate a point. But the subject matter of said threads is mediocre.

You know the gamefaqs guide I was using didn't tell me how to save Aeris. What a piece of junk!

What makes you think there is a way to fix a mistake like launching a console at literally 2x the priced of their previous consoles and despite still being $100 more than the launch price of previous consoles is still losing them money?

If I had ideas that would work, I wouldn't publish them I'd charge Sony at least a few hundred million for them.

Quit being so short-sighted. Obviously the PS3's launch and concept was messed up, but their handling of the platform could have easily been better in several respects. People like to blame the PS3's price and cost as the main reason for its' failure, but that's oversimplication. There are plenty of factors that contributed(and are still contributing) to the PS3's current situation. That article doesn't explore any of them.

 

[theBishop]

Personally I think abit of both. Which is what makes this thread even more funny to read, watching people argue from both sides.

Seriously. It's possible to have a sense of humor about the system wars.

Maybe GAF needs a no-holds-barred forum to let off this pent up hatred that erupts in sales discussion and certain N4G-approved headline threads.

 

[Redd]

What I get from the comic is that PS3 is gay and for fags, whereas XBox 360 is dumb and for lame-os.

Say Whaaaaaaaaaat

 

[Liberty4all]

With "failure" following right after.

 

[grandjedi6]

What I get from the comic is that PS3 is gay and for fags, whereas XBox 360 is dumb and for lame-os.

.

With "failure" following right after.

 

[Davidion]

I expect big, respected publications to write good in-depth articles. The purpose of the threads I don't argue with; they certainly demonstrate a point. But the subject matter of said threads is mediocre.

The article hit the point that the writer wanted to make, not that of any joe schmoe who reads it. The fact that people can't understand that for some godawful reason is why we get those nonsense threads in the first place. :lol

 

[J-Rzez]

Good job by PA to make up a strip that's vague enough to start a spark on the gun powder to get things going with a bang.

1. KZ2 will be the savior of the PS3, leading it through to it's new beginning. It's that good, take that xbox fans.
2. KZ2 is being perceived as the savior and second coming to save everything, and they're blowing it out of view thinking it'll push Sony past MS, which that game alone won't, take that Sony fans.
3. No mention/view of the Wii at all in the strip, meaning it's irrelevant to real gamers. Take that Wii fans.

Anyways, surprised we didn't really have any of the usual "I want to like this game, but I can't because Sony fans ruining my hype by posting various gifs and being excited for a game that the media has been extremely positive about, and those that were in beta and had a blast with it", posts.

 

[SovanJedi]

Words

What the-?

 

[Son of Godzilla]

KZ2 doesn't have co-op? :lol

 

[Liberty4all]

News post is up:

We suggested after an afternoon with the beta that Killzone 2 was a game owners of the PlayStation 3 could clutch to their chests like a babe and love without reservation. As a wholly owned studio, the Guerilla Games charter is concise: create a world-class shooter native to (and definitive of) the PlayStation 3. They were given the tools, and the time, and three years into the life of the system the only surprise would be if they hadn't delivered something noteworthy.

Unlike every other website in existence, we were not given a prerelease copy of Killzone 2. Why? Clearly, we're too street - our thug mentality too 'hood. They know that when we grip the mic, we spit it raw, straight off the dome. Or, it's possible that there is some other reason. But in general, people I trust not to lie to me have deemed it worthy. There are some outlets that are only providing previews and impressions, because they don't feel they have access to the full product's multiplayer offering yet. And certainly, we can talk about enemy variety or whether or not it offers co-op or some other damn thing. But that's that's not what this day is about. The brushing breeze is redolent of bluebell. This is a day of rejoicing.

 

[Firestorm]

wtf gaf

Anyway, Tycho:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/2009/2/4/
We suggested after an afternoon with the beta that Killzone 2 was a game owners of the PlayStation 3 could clutch to their chests like a babe and love without reservation. As a wholly owned studio, the Guerilla Games charter is concise: create a world-class shooter native to (and definitive of) the PlayStation 3. They were given the tools, and the time, and three years into the life of the system the only surprise would be if they hadn't delivered something noteworthy.

Unlike every other website in existence, we were not given a prerelease copy of Killzone 2. Why? Clearly, we're too street - our thug mentality too 'hood. They know that when we grip the mic, we spit it raw, straight off the dome. Or, it's possible that there is some other reason. But in general, people I trust not to lie to me have deemed it worthy. There are some outlets that are only providing previews and impressions, because they don't feel they have access to the full product's multiplayer offering yet. And certainly, we can talk about enemy variety or whether or not it offers co-op or some other damn thing. But that's that's not what this day is about. The brushing breeze is redolent of bluebell. This is a day of rejoicing.

A million years ago, as the first gasping amphibian writhed on that primeval shore, Netflix seemed very convenient and futuristic. Utilizing a moist, suction-tipped appendage, these creatures would populate an online queue with films that were doled out to them however many at a time. With the advent of the Instant Queue, this once enlightened practice now reeks of fetid barbarism.

The picked-over selection has already been discussed, but for some reason this makes finding authentic morsels a kind of game. I'm constantly stirring their database as a result, an ongoing effort to ladle strange treats to the surface. I posted a list of documentaries a while ago, items I felt enriched by, and it is in a similar spirit that I offer the following:
One may, with the assistance of the Instant Queue, receive an incredibly robust education on Doctor Who.

 

[Perdew]

Wakka wakka!

 

[Shiggie]

Thread needs more of this

 

[WinFonda]

People still think that though. That's why it's relevant. They still wait for the "next big thing."

And on the flip side there are still those who believe Killzone 2 will never be a good game, is nothing but a damaged franchise, and is all smoke and mirrors. It cuts both ways.

The savior thing is more of a strawman's argument used by detractors than it is anything else. It's easy to ignore what a game accomplishes on its own and preemptively set it up for failure by proclaiming it a (false) savior -- not that anyone here has claimed it to be a savior, but by creating the perception that many people believe it to be one there is a fostering of the idea. Besides the preposterous thought of a game "saving" a console, no one ever even defines what "saving" is, and so therefore it can be deemed a failure by any standard ranging from not selling 3 million units all the way when it ultimately fails to sell 10 million PS3s.


So no, I don't buy the savior idea and most of the time I read it it's usually coming from the other side of the aisle or is in jest. I think people need to learn the difference between anticipating an admittedly good looking game and comparing it to a hyperbolic Christ-like figure.

And as I said earlier, I don't think that's what Penny Arcade is doing here - trying to make a definitive statement - as this can be taken more than a few ways.

 

[Esch]

The article hit the point that the writer wanted to make, not that of any joe schmoe who reads it. The fact that people can't understand that for some godawful reason is why we get those nonsense threads in the first place. :lol

The point that the PS3 was doing bad?

Even people who don't write for any publication know it's situation. Why reiterate the obvious while adding no original or decent insight?

 

[Returners]

oh snap, so it is face value then?

LOL

...
But in general, people I trust not to lie to me have deemed it worthy.
...

I don't think he's lying.

 

[Redd]

This thread is going all sorts of places. I don't know what's going on yet I can't look away.

 

[Orlics]

There are so many different permutations of whether the OP and PA are being sarcastic that it's impossible to have a wrong interpretation of this thread.

 

[Davidion]

The point that the PS3 was doing bad?

Even people who don't write for any publication know it's situation. Why reiterate the obvious while adding no original or decent insight?

Because not everyone realize what the situation is? Why would you think that people who don't necessarily pay attention to video games would have any remote clues as to how the consoles are performing in the market? It's just a general information piece; for some reason that's not good enough for some. :lol

There are so many different permutations of whether the OP and PA are being sarcastic that it's impossible to have a wrong interpretation of this thread.

Thus the brilliance! :lol

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I expect big, respected publications to write good in-depth articles. The purpose of the threads I don't argue with; they certainly demonstrate a point. But the subject matter of said threads is mediocre.

As much as gamers might put stock in their consoles, a major publication won't put more than 500 words into an article about one unless a new one is launching or it's a Wii.

 

[Christine]

One may, with the assistance of the Instant Queue, receive an incredibly robust education on Doctor Who.

Oh, this is cool. I've been wanting to get into Herr Doktor for a while now. Where should I start, guys?

 

[Son of Godzilla]

Because not everyone realize what the situation is? Why would you think that people who don't necessarily pay attention to video games would have any remote clues as to how the consoles are performing in the market?

Are you kidding? The performance of the Wii is one of the most well known bits of entertainment trivia in the last couple of years. How it's competition is faring is simply an extension of that. A well-known extension.

 

[Haunted]

wtf gaf

Anyway, Tycho:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/2009/2/4/
We suggested after an afternoon with the beta that Killzone 2 was a game owners of the PlayStation 3 could clutch to their chests like a babe and love without reservation. As a wholly owned studio, the Guerilla Games charter is concise: create a world-class shooter native to (and definitive of) the PlayStation 3. They were given the tools, and the time, and three years into the life of the system the only surprise would be if they hadn't delivered something noteworthy.

Unlike every other website in existence, we were not given a prerelease copy of Killzone 2. Why? Clearly, we're too street - our thug mentality too 'hood. They know that when we grip the mic, we spit it raw, straight off the dome. Or, it's possible that there is some other reason. But in general, people I trust not to lie to me have deemed it worthy. There are some outlets that are only providing previews and impressions, because they don't feel they have access to the full product's multiplayer offering yet. And certainly, we can talk about enemy variety or whether or not it offers co-op or some other damn thing. But that's that's not what this day is about. The brushing breeze is redolent of bluebell. This is a day of rejoicing.

A million years ago, as the first gasping amphibian writhed on that primeval shore, Netflix seemed very convenient and futuristic. Utilizing a moist, suction-tipped appendage, these creatures would populate an online queue with films that were doled out to them however many at a time. With the advent of the Instant Queue, this once enlightened practice now reeks of fetid barbarism.

The picked-over selection has already been discussed, but for some reason this makes finding authentic morsels a kind of game. I'm constantly stirring their database as a result, an ongoing effort to ladle strange treats to the surface. I posted a list of documentaries a while ago, items I felt enriched by, and it is in a similar spirit that I offer the following:
One may, with the assistance of the Instant Queue, receive an incredibly robust education on Doctor Who.

:lol oh wow. Didn't expect that.

Where's mah crow?

 

[Crisis]

What the fuck is wrong with all of you? All of this over a comic? Evilore might have to ban the entire internet when the game actually releases.

 

[Esch]

As much as gamers might put stock in their consoles, a major publication won't put more than 500 words into an article about one unless a new one is launching or it's a Wii.

Probably true. I guess you can't really expect much from mainstream journalism there.

Because not everyone realize what the situation is? Why would you think that people who don't necessarily pay attention to video games would have any remote clues as to how the consoles are performing in the market?

Interest pieces are supposed to be written for an audience with SOME amount of prior knowledge on a subject. Why the fuck would Time or Variety write an article for grandpa who doesn't know shit about gaming? That makes no sense.

 

[ElyrionX]

wtf gaf

Anyway, Tycho:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/2009/2/4/
We suggested after an afternoon with the beta that Killzone 2 was a game owners of the PlayStation 3 could clutch to their chests like a babe and love without reservation. As a wholly owned studio, the Guerilla Games charter is concise: create a world-class shooter native to (and definitive of) the PlayStation 3. They were given the tools, and the time, and three years into the life of the system the only surprise would be if they hadn't delivered something noteworthy.

Unlike every other website in existence, we were not given a prerelease copy of Killzone 2. Why? Clearly, we're too street - our thug mentality too 'hood. They know that when we grip the mic, we spit it raw, straight off the dome. Or, it's possible that there is some other reason. But in general, people I trust not to lie to me have deemed it worthy. There are some outlets that are only providing previews and impressions, because they don't feel they have access to the full product's multiplayer offering yet. And certainly, we can talk about enemy variety or whether or not it offers co-op or some other damn thing. But that's that's not what this day is about. The brushing breeze is redolent of bluebell. This is a day of rejoicing.

A million years ago, as the first gasping amphibian writhed on that primeval shore, Netflix seemed very convenient and futuristic. Utilizing a moist, suction-tipped appendage, these creatures would populate an online queue with films that were doled out to them however many at a time. With the advent of the Instant Queue, this once enlightened practice now reeks of fetid barbarism.

The picked-over selection has already been discussed, but for some reason this makes finding authentic morsels a kind of game. I'm constantly stirring their database as a result, an ongoing effort to ladle strange treats to the surface. I posted a list of documentaries a while ago, items I felt enriched by, and it is in a similar spirit that I offer the following:
One may, with the assistance of the Instant Queue, receive an incredibly robust education on Doctor Who.

So it's face value, then? :lol

At first glance, I took it at face value, left the thread and didn't think much of it. Then I came back to this thread and saw some of the comments and I did a double-take. Looking at it a second time, it certainly looks like it could have been a satire.

 

[Davidion]

Are you kidding? The performance of the Wii is one of the most well known bits of entertainment trivia in the last couple of years. How it's competition is faring is simply an extension of that. A well-known extension.

Sure it is. And those who do know (and there are plenty of people who don't, contrary to GAF's beliefs), tend to find out through mass media outlets such as Time, STRANGELY ENOUGH.

That's the point.

Interest pieces are supposed to be written for an audience with SOME amount of prior knowledge on a subject. Why the fuck would Time or Variety write an article for grandpa who doesn't know shit about gaming? That makes no sense.

Wait, you're telling me that Time or Variety should only write articles applicable to every one of their audiences? You mean that these magazines shouldn't write any articles that informs their audiences of things that they didn't know about or understand before?

You should probably rethink what you're suggesting. :lol

 

[theBishop]

Wow.... Tycho just set a Bruce Wayne sized dinner table. The only thing on the menu is crow.

 

[lowlylowlycook]

Wow.... Tycho just set a Bruce Wayne sized dinner table. The only thing on the menu is crow.

nom nom nom nom

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Amazing that it only took me a few PS3-related posts to get tossed in with "The usual suspects".

Now all I could ever ask for is one of those posts where they quote like a dozen of my posts in the past and throw in some stuff about "PS3-hater confirmed" or something to that affect.

 

[TheRagnCajun]

Literal interpretation:1
Satire of KZ2 hype interpretation:0

 

[Ceb]

:lol oh wow. Didn't expect that.

Where's mah crow?

Told you so. But you're still alright, Haunted.

 

[Esch]

Wait, you're telling me that Time or Variety should only write articles applicable to every one of their audiences? You mean that these magazines shouldn't write any articles that informs their audiences of things that they didn't know about or understand before?

You should probably rethink what you're suggesting. :lol

I'm saying that when they're writing a specialized piece like this, they shouldn't be afraid to go in depth for the people that are more in the know. That's pretty reasonable.

 

[Haunted]

om nom nom

Told you so. But you're still alright, Haunted.

I tip my proverbial hat off to you, sir.

Amazing that it only took me a few PS3-related posts to get tossed in with "The usual suspects".

Now all I could ever ask for is one of those posts where they quote like a dozen of my posts in the past and throw in some stuff about "PS3-hater confirmed" or something to that affect.

You're not a real GAFer until people start dregging up your post history is what I always say.

 

[Htown]

Wow.... Tycho just set a Bruce Wayne sized dinner table. The only thing on the menu is crow.

Deep Crow.

 

[crowphoenix]

You're not a real GAFer until people start dregging up your post history is what I always say.

Damn, I'm not a real gaffer.

 

[theBishop]

Damn, I'm not a real gaffer.

You can also become a "real gaffer" if you survive at least 3 bannings.

 

[civilstrife]

OMG guys check this shit out.
You ready for this? Here it comes lol...






...videogames.

 

[theBishop]

OMG guys check this shit out.
You ready for this? Here it comes lol...






...videogames.

You guys like that crap!? Mario 64 has better art direction than Uncharted

If they had done like Nintendo instead of arrogantly jamming their proprietary format down our throats, they wouldn't be in this mess. I have no pity.

I hate the PS3.

PS3 hater confirmed.

Spoiler

j/k