BlazingDarkness
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Yep, it was expected they would not be pleased. I was not happy with this too.
dat gif lol
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Indie devs comment on Xbox One
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dat gif lol
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Stopped clocks and all that
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Duxxy3
Member
It's amazing because Phil doesn't have a filter.
Yeah, he's an asshole, but he never holds anything back. He says exactly what he thinks.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
When he behaves, he gets treats. When he's bad, he gets his face shoved in the mess he made.
It is amazing how much extra push Sony is putting toward Indie's this gen. Yet another in a long list of ways Microsoft fucked its unveil. Sony is now the de facto Indie system of choice lol
Except Sony's, since they spent an inordinate amount of time detailing how their new platform benefits Indies
You mean Steam?
funkystudent
Member
By system he probably meant console.
This wasn't for developers. This was to advertise the Xbox. That's it. I would think the strategy they have for this will be similar to what they have with windows 8.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
So NOW you guys love Phil Fish? Let me laugh until I shit my pants.
Fried Food
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Doesn't take much to get gaf on your side. People didn't understand Ms' intentions with this event
Obviously Steam is the #1 in absolute terms, but I meant among the consoles
Yogsam said:
He just says dumb things, I don't hate him. I do, however, love Fez, so as a gamer that's what matters to me in the end. Dude can make games.
Unveiling the console so they can focus on games at e3....?
Wouldn't the Wii U be cheaper to develop for (web framework / cheaper dev kit)?
It is amazing how much extra push Sony is putting toward Indie's this gen. Yet another in a long list of ways Microsoft fucked its unveil. Sony is now the de facto Indie system of choice lol
Except Sony's, since they spent an inordinate amount of time detailing how their new platform benefits Indies
And had actual indie developers on stage to talk about it (Jonathan Blow). I think the time MS spent talking about everything but games was about equal to the time Sony spent actually talking about games. Jesus.
There are no costs to develop for steam. Its a store front. You just need to get through Greenlight, which could be a problem.
edit: You probably talking about the PS4.
Warm Machine
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I imagine it is easier talking to people at Sony than it is people at Valve right now.
Yes. And then talking about development at BUILD.
That about puts it into perspective right there. Just a staggering unveiling.
I mean, I don't know the price of dev kits, but Sony is actively courting Indie's every which way to Sunday, has provided the most expansive set of tools available yet on a Sony platform for Indie devs, promotes their Indie games front and center, endless support.
They really changed their fortunes around. Indie devs can't stop saying positive things about PS4.
I personally think they are joining a fight that was already over.
Exactly, which is why most of the people hating the console are kinda idiots.
Because this isn't E3.
This is "here are all the various things our console can do. Games, movies, tv, everything." They crammed a lot into an hour--it's not like they could have devoted an entire hour to telling everyone about their games. This device is about doing everything, and if you wanted it to be just about games, you've set your sights too low. It's an all-in-one machine. Awesome.
Expect the games at E3. .-.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Isn't it kinda telling that at this point those Indie's don't know what the fuck is going on with the Xbox One. I mean hasn't there been any push to get them on board... like at all?
ebullientprism
Member
Between the Internets stupid crusade against him and him saying just whatever the fuck he wants, I think I am really starting to like Fish. Go you!
lol
Save 'N Quit
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One of those comments is not like the other~
Microsoft Build Dev Conference. June 26th.
http://www.buildwindows.com/Announcement
if they bring an W8 app store to xbox, it will be detailed there.
http://www.buildwindows.com/Announcement
if they bring an W8 app store to xbox, it will be detailed there.
ramoisdead
Member
Phil Fish is done with Japan now he's going after MERICA.
Didn't Steam change their policies where stuff has to go through Greenlight now?
(TBH, I have no idea how Greenlight works for devs)
Like I've said, at BUILD they'll be plenty of discussion about development.
D
Deleted member 17706
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I've hated on Phil Fish a lot in the past, but damn that's a good quote.
chicagocubsfan
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Sounds an awful lot like PS3...
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I prefer to call the informed on GAF "informed" and not just wishing for things to get better.
Right now, with what we know, it's terrible.
Pretty sure they're going to scrap Greenlight entirely and come up with something else. I remember reading a quote from Valve about that somewhere along the past few weeks.
Correct, but just this once I'll allow an exception for that.
Exactly what Nintendo does....
Warm Machine
Member
No. Greenlight is here for quite a while. They had a dev chat about two weeks ago and Gabe's suggestions of a personal storefront is way off it seems.
Except these reactions would also indicate that Microsoft isent even talking to these developers at all. My guess is that they will mainly go after the top of the heap, so you will see stuff like Hawken, Twisted Pixel, Minecraft, etc. The guys who make stuff like Thomas was alone, Hohokum, Chasm, etc will viewed as non important. thats just my guess though.
rudieboy77
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Phil Fish is absolutely correct about the buzzwords and nothing really being said.
The entire time I watched the conference, all I kept thinking about was a corporate get together where upper management and corporate bosses try to encourage the serfs for another year of productivity gains by using quotes from motivational posters.
The entire time I watched the conference, all I kept thinking about was a corporate get together where upper management and corporate bosses try to encourage the serfs for another year of productivity gains by using quotes from motivational posters.
If it was exactly the same, then Indies would have a similar level of buzz for Wii U. Now while I doubt any indies would say Wii U is a bad environment for them - Nintendo has made great strides and definitely deserves credit, as did Microsoft for the way they pushed indie products on XBLA - there's also no doubt that a clear preference has emerged in the new gen, and that IS because Sony is simply pushing and supporting way harder.
The ONLY terrible things we've heard are many contradictory reports about how discs are going to work and that backwards compatibility is a no go.
Everything else seems pretty reasonable.
People primarily seem angry because they didn't SHOW enough games, so oh no, Microsoft, despite having announced that they're doing more games than either of their comptitors, isn't making a box for games anymore.