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Well at least Intel is right in this instance. Apple products are an embarrassment.
Companies still using X86 have themselves to blame.
Well at least Intel is right in this instance. Apple products are an embarrassment.
Intel is shaken. Also, is M1 vs i7 a fair comparison? M1 is coming up on the low end, isn't it? Let's see the Apple ARM CPUs that they put into the iMac or Mac Pro do in some of these same tests.
To be fair, which hardware naming scheme isn't?God intel naming scheme is so stupid.
Given that the I7 doesn't even necessarily guarantee that you'll get hyperthreading with your increase in cores or that the hyperthreading is unique to i7's...yeah, the worth of the I7 has been diminished greatly.i7 means nothing... for a couple years now there’s been at least two lines of i7, the phat 45w unit and the ultrabook i7 that runs at 15w
God intel naming scheme is so stupid.
Given that the I7 doesn't even necessarily guarantee that you'll get hyperthreading with your increase in cores or that the hyperthreading is unique to i7's...yeah, the worth of the I7 has been diminished greatly.
Once Intel did that one generation in the 9000s series where it was just a vanilla 8core processor and broke the pattern, it became much more solidly just a pretty name. They might've started using it again, but it's damaged the branding. I7 is just marketing now.
I know this was about the mobile side of things, but on desktop too they straight up tore a chunk out of it.
exactly what I am thinking of and that's why I'm happy to have my 3700xYep.
At least competition forced them to hyperthread the i7 series, remember when they announced only the i9 would get that feature?
It’s cheaper for large corporations to use windows and dell or Lenovo sure
But for the individual user or small teams, they are significantly better
MacOS still does multiple virtual desktops Better than windows, they still do multitasking better, and the trackpad + shortcuts are so much better than the best windows pcs that it is not even close to how a Mac facilitates a productive workflow
very seamless on macOS, still cumbersome and gets in the way more than it helps on comparable windows pcs (XPS, razer blade, etc)
my windows lineup includes razerblade stealth 2019 w mx150, XPS 13 2020, XPS 13 2 in 1 2018
Mac lineup is a late 2013 Pro and an M1Air
it’s hard to explain if you haven’t been publishing research papers, or doing medical work, as that is a niche, but I consistently find the MacBook experience in a class of its own. Superior in every regard for my line of work as well as more secure.
the fact my late 2013 pro can be sold used for 1/3 of what I paid going on 8 years later is a testament to the value as well
there is no comparison in build quality either.
I think the m1 air is the best value laptop on the market and unless one absolutely needs windows, you won’t find a better computer. Fan noise (lack thereof), entire UX, quality of components, speakers, display in 16:10, and battery life...are just second to none
I totally get why intel is creating this ad campaign and getting their advertising angle out there
I really don't care how good the M1 is or isn't. Apple will never see a penny from me. Their products are over-engineered to the point of excess with the sole intent of making it hard to repair. They're the company that brought you such bangers as "half a decade of defective GPUs that they fought tooth and nail to not have to recall" and "the riveted in built to fail keyboard". They actively lobby against right to repair.i know right? i think most people are just not in the know of how fucking crazy the new M1 based apple laptops are.. i would legit not ever want to go back to fucking windows after trying the m1.
when traveling it really is something else.. 20hours of battery life xD
The Mac vs. PC thing is accurate, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the Intel CPUs inside them.Regardless of what you think of Intel they're not wrong about the PC vs Mac thing. And ironically the beauty about PC is that I don't have to use Intel if I don't want to.
I really don't care how good the M1 is or isn't. Apple will never see a penny from me. Their products are over-engineered to the point of excess with the sole intent of making it hard to repair. They're the company that brought you such bangers as "half a decade of defective GPUs that they fought tooth and nail to not have to recall" and "the riveted in built to fail keyboard". They actively lobby against right to repair.
Fuck 'em.
I really don't care how good the M1 is or isn't. Apple will never see a penny from me. Their products are over-engineered to the point of excess with the sole intent of making it hard to repair. They're the company that brought you such bangers as "half a decade of defective GPUs that they fought tooth and nail to not have to recall" and "the riveted in built to fail keyboard". They actively lobby against right to repair.
Fuck 'em.
I thing important 'new thing" is that we have ARM based server chip that even wins in certain benchmarks, but actually is at best on par in terms of power consumption (and is using more cores). It is still a threat to x86 world as those chips tend to be much cheaper.Intel is right to do this; Apple is no more a partner and M1 is not the great leap forward that some want us to believe.
Intel should be more concerned by what is happening on the server side where both AMD and Ampere are now offering cheaper and better solutions.
AMD 3rd Gen EPYC Milan Review: A Peak vs Per Core Performance Balance
www.anandtech.com
Such as?M1 is some serious black magic vs Intel i7 or i9.
Dunno, dude, Win + P and <insert non apple-crippled device, including TVs> is my "another" screen.utomatically it’s now a second screen for her laptop
Well if you had an PC then one platform would've suffice.Apple is like PlayStation to me: 4 Life.
How it beats Intel in e.g C++ compilation times without breaking a sweat.(MBP Vs MBP)Such as?
M1 is a huge (bigger than 8 core 5000 series Ryzen) chip on 5nm and far from stellar (by ARM standards and even by mobile x86 standards) power consumption.
Basically power efficiency. Apple is obsessed with power saving features, and if something can be done to reduce even more power consumption, they'll do it. iOS and MacOS have their interfaces running entirely in Metal, just to save power (instead of using OpenGL or Vulkan, which are more powerful).Instead of doing what everyone does and implementing Vulkan as the best cross-platform graphics API, Apple decided to go with their own, inferior API of Metal.
For no logical reason, really. It does nothing better and only forces engine developers to cover yet another graphics API.
Because:Why bring up Ryzen
M1 and Ryzen CPUs have really done a number on Intel in the consumer market. And if we talk about servers and workstations, EPYC CPUs wipes the floor with current Xeons. If Intel doesn't get its shit together, they'll be behind on the game for a loooooong shot.Should've focused on R&D instead of shareholder payouts. Intel is fucked.
I agree with most of their points against Macs. My company uses them and they are just an all around pain in the butt for business (corporate).
Good for you I guessBecause:
a) it's x86
b) it is on a node process, although inferior, but still closer to 5nm that Apple is using
Not fun fact is that the fact of Carmack stating "Steve Jobs doesn't care about games" turned into "Steve Jobs hates games" in the title.Fun fact: Steve Jobs hated video games and actively discouraged their development on Macs.
John Carmack: Steve Jobs hates games | bit-tech.net
In a recent interview John Carmack has said that the reason Apple hasn't been big on games is because of CEO Steve Jobs.bit-tech.net
If not for long contracts all big tech companies and server providers would be on AMD's Zen3 by now.Companies still using X86 have themselves to blame.
3400$ Intel i9 MBP starting to lift off with the fans spinning up getting beat by 1500$ M1 MBP not even breaking a sweat."black magic" eh?
Why because they are sticking up for pc? Go play x game on your non x86 mac, or any of your old software...oh wait you can't. You can't even sideload as Tim Cook or whoever is now in charge of apple is a tyrant and against free expression.Go home Intel, you’re drunk.
Yep, its insane to me that people on a gaming forum are sticking up for apple. yeah intel hasn't released the greatest cpus in the past few years but they did before that for like a decade. They will bounce back. Their cpus support decades of software. The tyrant and anti freedom Tim cook wants to control what you can do on your machine, what you can read, or hear. If he doesn't like it or goes against his worldview , banned. Sorry I will never support that. Apple to me died with Steve Jobs rip..Well at least Intel is right in this instance. Apple products are an embarrassment.
How can you be a gamer and love a macbook? You can't play games besides their store apps. You can't mess with settings, mods, install old software. They ban apps they don't like from their stores and there is no sideloading. Anti freedom company. As gamer, as a hobbyiest coder, and ethusiast since the 1980s, apple hasn't been good for computers since the apple ii line, imo. Macs are restrictive.People either love MacBooks or hate them
I’m in the “can’t go back to windows” camp
everything just works, battery life is better, resale value is better, fan noise is better, problems are dealt with easier, And the trackpad is bar none the best in a laptop going on over a decade
their butterfly notebooks sucked and I’m happy they’re rumoured to be getting rid of the Touch Bar gimmick
they’re not perfect but for me the m1 MacBook Air is the best value laptop and it ain’t even close
Apple is a big customer for intel to lose. Of course they will be salty.
What? lol. I work in IT. I have worked for a bank, a foundry, a catholic convent, private school system, electric company, etc... Contracted out.I’m so sorry your IT department sucks ass. Macs are both simpler to work with that PC and Device Management makes it very easy to deploy and control in a corporate environment.
Not to mention the higher up the executive the less applications they need (I doubt C-Level uses anything else than mail, browser and maybe text editor), which further reduces the news for Intel.
M1 killed Intel in a way it’s not even funny, we are living through a generational shift.
To be fair, which hardware naming scheme isn't?
How can a GPU with the lower number 2070 be better than a GPU with the higher number 3060. It's fucking dumb.
Of course there is a reason behind it, so it can be understood once you learn the scheme.... but don't tell me they weren't able to come up with a better naming scheme that is actually intuitive.
You are merely confirming what I wrote.The what?
The first number 30 is generation/series the second number 60 is the actual product.
Gen on gen replacements need to share names else its just a random shit.
If the 2070 replacement is called the xt1800 and its replacement fu350 how would 2070 owners or anyone for that matter know whats what?
By having clear RTX[gen][model] naming everyone can keep track.
Need to replace a 570 with a card in the same market position? Look for the latest xx70.
Where you expecting the 30 series to start from 3090 and climb to 30150 as so not to have replacement models?
P.S The 3060 should have named 3050. 60ti and 70 arent in the same class.
Uh, so apple thingy vs apple thingy. I get it now.3400$ Intel i9 MBP starting to lift off with the fans spinning up getting beat by 1500$ M1 MBP not even breaking a sweat.
They are into ARM CPUs for longer than a decade.Considering this is their first try at this, yes that is exactly what I call it.
There is something much more peculiar going with GPUs.How can a GPU with the lower number 2070 be better than a GPU with the higher number 3060. It's fucking dumb.
How can you be a gamer and love a macbook? You can't play games besides their store apps. You can't mess with settings, mods, install old software. They ban apps they don't like from their stores and there is no sideloading. Anti freedom company. As gamer, as a hobbyiest coder, and ethusiast since the 1980s, apple hasn't been good for computers since the apple ii line, imo. Macs are restrictive.
Arm processors can't run all my games or software so its a moot point for me.
Then they should cringe too for using Windows, as Linux is easily the best option available for security, databases, and development.Guess what, every IT person cringes when someone has a mac.
So much wrong in this post
Macs retain their resale price not because of "value" but because there's no free market when it comes to Apple products. There's only 1 supplier of macs and they do things like paying 3rd parties to disassemble and send to the trashbin their products in order to restrict the availability of their hardware (which conveniently they PR it as "ecological"). Like many monopolists, Apple loathes the second hand market and they are working diligently to neuter it by way of making their products unrepairable and unupgradable.
I know eventually Apple will have ARM CPUs in everything, but aren't they still using Intel in a lot of their products?