Why are you defending a console getting bent?
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Is anyone else's Switch... bent?
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Zombie James
Banned
Idk can you explain to me why a console being (imperceptibly) bent matters?
thechristoph
Sir!
Can a stupid design be considered a defect?
I mean it's working as intended. Design flaw? Sure
Noticed mine is a bit bent too. I'm not too picky on this issue though, compared to dead pixels and such since there's not a noticeable effect on the screen itself when playing.
It's still annoying though and just another mark against Nintendo on their horrid QA for this console.
It's still annoying though and just another mark against Nintendo on their horrid QA for this console.
shira
Member
The issue for me isn't necessarily the bend itself (as mine is currently very slight), but it could be indicative of a more serious underlying issue, like overheating.
angelic
Banned
I think we'll see a new one in 2018 correcting the many flaws.
JaseMath
Member
People want the quality they paid for?
Foreign Jackass
Member
It's more fun when it's bent a little. Mine also feels thicker than all of yours.
I KNOW THOSE JOKES HAVE BEEN MADE BUT IT'S SO FUN
I KNOW THOSE JOKES HAVE BEEN MADE BUT IT'S SO FUN
shira
Member
- less resale value
- I would know it's bent
- the bending might get worse over time
But how is it low-quality if the problem in question is literally imperceptible unless you see a forum thread and get out a ruler?
BluePikmin11
Member
I guess this is the price paid for a graphically powered portable. :/
LoveCake
Member
If it is a heat issue and gets worse over time then it could well be a real problem, I don't have a Switch but if I did it would only be a home console and would never come out of the dock.
I worry enough as it is about my other consoles breaking where there is no issue with them, but there seems to be numerous issues with the Switch, Nintendo had enough time to get this all sorted out, people cannot say that the Switch was rushed to launch, yet is seems that the hardware is not 100% and there are issues with the software not being ready like the browser and YouTube app, I am sorry but it just isn't good enough, I am not a Nintendo hater either, I have all previous Nintendo consoles.
Nintendo should be doing it better, they really should.
I would think, if heat was the issue, there would be noticeable gaps where the panels meet because not all of the plastics that mate are going to be heated to the same temperature and would therefore not be as likely to bend. Without gaps I would say it's a manufacturing defect.
I'd 100% wait for the holiday purchase if you didn't adopt a Switch at launch! I haven't had any issues with mine (though I haven't checked to see if it's bent yet). But better safe than sorry - plus there *should* be plenty to play for this winter, depending on your tastes.
Jaded Alyx
Member
My Switch appears to be straight. The Dock also doesn't scratch the screen.
I do have a touch of the left-joycon desync thing, but I use the Pro Controller anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hWWe-ts2s
I do have a touch of the left-joycon desync thing, but I use the Pro Controller anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hWWe-ts2s
TetraGenesis
Member
As someone with a bent iPad, I sympathize with you OP. It's totally unnoticeable but viscerally irritating.
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So, looks like another manufacturing variation then, which makes sense with the plastic filling and cooling.
Geez, Nintendo should find a new manufacturer. Whoever assembled the units, really dropped the ball
Edit: just laid mine down on a table, both sides, no light peering through or wobbling
Dynheart covers this process in great detail and excellently put. Everyone in this thread should read it. If it's a concern for you, contact Nintendo for a replacement or wait before your warranty expires
Geez, Nintendo should find a new manufacturer. Whoever assembled the units, really dropped the ball
Edit: just laid mine down on a table, both sides, no light peering through or wobbling
Dynheart covers this process in great detail and excellently put. Everyone in this thread should read it. If it's a concern for you, contact Nintendo for a replacement or wait before your warranty expires
I don't think it's a heat issue when the Switch is in operation. I think it is likely to be a manufacturing issue as explained by Dynheart in the quotes below.
Since I've also shown how bendable the plastic is by force but is still usable, these bent Switches most likely passed quality control because they still worked hence being only a cosmetic fault.
I doubt the plastic is warping due to operational use when we've seen the heat tests show around 50°C at the fan vent.
If we identify the type of plastic it is using, it would be easier knowing its melting point then.
Considering that smartphones get really hot easily and don't have this warping issue, the Switch could be using the same type of plastic as smartphone casings which is a polycarbonate where it's upper working temperature range is 115°C to 130°C, that would be more than double the temperature inside the Switch when operating.
Even we see here from the ifixit teardown that the Switch also has a metal layer which is likely aluminium to conduct heat just like in some tablets that use aluminium casings to conduct heat since those systems run hot without fans.
I'm thinking it is likely the below quotes that explain the warping issue due to quality control from manufacturers.
It's not heat warping. The Switch isn't sustaining over hundreds of degrees centigrade to start warping industrial plastics.
My switch is partially bent, from a rough measure it's sub degree. It has been used docked all of once, and has never been "hot" on play. To warp plastic, I'd have gotten third degree burns by the logic being thrown around here.
My switch is partially bent, from a rough measure it's sub degree. It has been used docked all of once, and has never been "hot" on play. To warp plastic, I'd have gotten third degree burns by the logic being thrown around here.
It's probably too late though to explain the actual cause because I've seen articles spread now about this issue. lol
Now a lot of people are going to think their Switch is near melting point as opposed to the bending being from quality control during manufacturing.
You'd also smell the plastic if it were warping, as the hottest layers would almost certainly be releasing vapors into the air. It'd be a mix of a burning and new-car smell.
But the other issue is that warping is non-uniform (because the heat is obviously non-uniform), so this would lead to the seals of the Switch front and back-panel peeling apart. But since no one has shown such split seams, it is very unlikely to have been due to any form of heat. (Also non-uniform, effectively brownian expansion would not "curve" so neatly in every device, that's nonsensical.)
The front of the Switch is likely 5-10C cooler (if not more) than the back when docked with the screen off and in handheld it'd be about even (screen side likely still cooler). If the heat is distributed on both sides, it'd likely not actually warp in the ways we see because it'd be even heating/expansion rates. But if only one side if overheating and warping, the front/panel side would actually rigidly try to oppose and this would lead to forced warping -> cracks -> seams breaking.
Of course, its also ludicrous to think the panel side of the Switch is warping at all because the pixels would almost definitely be heat-warped to different colors or outright just destroyed. Moreover, those pixels are themselves not that far from the heatsink/heat source, and they likely have very specific thresholds and are far more sensitive than plastic to heating.
It's low quality because it's bent. It doesn't matter how easy it is to notice. A good quality product wouldn't be bent.
DeuceGamer
Member
First I saw this. Just checked mine with a square and it does appear to be a little bent. I've played both docked and undocked about equal.
In my case it seems like in the back there is a place with a bump that I can even push back down somewhat.
The only other issue I've had is a game card not reading properly. That issue seems to be with one particular game and if I take it out and put it back it reads it fine. I guess I'm just going to hold on to it for now and may send it in for repairs at some point in the future.
In my case it seems like in the back there is a place with a bump that I can even push back down somewhat.
The only other issue I've had is a game card not reading properly. That issue seems to be with one particular game and if I take it out and put it back it reads it fine. I guess I'm just going to hold on to it for now and may send it in for repairs at some point in the future.
Skellybroski88
Neo Member
Issues like this and the left joycon are stopping me from getting a switch even though I really want one. I feel like in a few months we will have a version that doesn't have all these issues.
Right but if you got out some high quality calipers you could find similar defects in almost everything you own. So what's the borderline here? No manufactured product is going to be perfectly straight down to the molecular level.
DeuceGamer
Member
In my case there is actually a hump on the back that can be pressed down a bit. Still though if it continues to function properly I will likely just keep it.
zeioIIDX
Member
Same here, there's just no way I'm paying $300 for a console that has wifi issues, bends, has controller connectivity issues, and scratches/smudges when using the dock. For the first time ever, I'm waiting it out with a Nintendo console to see if they hopefully do a revision in the future that fixes these problems. By then, the games I actually want to play should be out already.
forknknife
Banned
Mine's not bent.
I only suffer from bad wifi (not unusable, just not as fast as it should be) and JoyCon controllers that have a very slight give when attached to the switch. Too minor annoyances to do anything about it but still things I wish I could fix.
I only suffer from bad wifi (not unusable, just not as fast as it should be) and JoyCon controllers that have a very slight give when attached to the switch. Too minor annoyances to do anything about it but still things I wish I could fix.
Teletraan1
Banned
I can't wait to buy a refurb bent switch with some dead pixels, buffed out scratches and a bent dock with a fixed up left joycon for cheap.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Bin it.
In all seriousness I'm with everyone who suspects it came out of the factory like this with warped plastics.
Unfortunate but you'd have to really be looking for it to notice in most circumstances, like OP's.
In all seriousness I'm with everyone who suspects it came out of the factory like this with warped plastics.
Unfortunate but you'd have to really be looking for it to notice in most circumstances, like OP's.
DeuceGamer
Member
I played mine daily and didn't notice until i saw this thread and put a straight edge on it. I can't imagine it's from getting too hot, as it's never been so hot that it was legitimately hot to touch it.
So we're done with the scratches and we're onto bent Switches.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Exactly, I don't think we'll ever live to see a day when Nintendo puts in an inadequate cooling system for their hardware.
LambdaTeos
Member
Is anyone else's Switch.... frozen?
Answer: It's by design
Answer: It's by design
coughlanio
Member
I wonder if this could be from the battery expanding when under thermal load?
mindatlarge
Member
Mines been docked pretty much exclusively, about 200 hours of Zelda played docked and it's fine. Some of my sessions are 6 or so hours as well at a time. Just to maybe eliminate that this is a docking/heat issue, at least when it's placed in a straight dock like I have.
Could a bent dock plus heat cause a Switch to bend like this perhaps?
Could a bent dock plus heat cause a Switch to bend like this perhaps?